• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:41
CEST 12:41
KST 19:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
The Role of Consistency in Clearing IBPS PO How Proper Notes Improve CA Inter Preparation Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Daigo vs Menard Best of 10 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game)
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1450 users

WCG 2011 Grand Finals - Page 349

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 347 348 349 350 351 436 Next
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:55:11
December 10 2011 06:54 GMT
#6961
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6962
On December 10 2011 15:54 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.

I wasn't the one who brought it up.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:55:36
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6963
Snute wins!

1-0 up on F91
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6964
MVP looked more nervous. Go for the throat, Kas! >:D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6965
Kas needs more headphones on.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6966
MVP looks like he's in kill mode
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6967
MVP doesn't look pleased
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6968
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37082 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6969
MVP!!!!! I BELIEVE~!~!~!~!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6970
Why does Kas have an extra pair of headphones around his neck?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6971
On December 10 2011 15:56 chatuka wrote:
MVP looks like he's in kill mode


MVP was born in kill mode
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6972
Game 1 starts between kas versus MVP
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6973
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here, but once people see other people training even harder that's when shit gets tough and weaker amateurs will get weeded out.

Koreans train hard as it is, but you haven't seen anything yet. Foreigners will have to be 100% dedicated to sc2 as well.


So current BW pros have been playing BW instead of playing SC2 professionally. Do you really think that's a surprise?

But many MANY BW B-teamers ARE taking SC2 seriously, and they're doing quite well. A year ago do you think anyone would predict that BW pros would even give SC2 a try? Whatever, downtime in between games sucks, but ignorance is running rampant. Just because Flash hasn't quit BW for SC2, doesn't mean Korea has no supporters of SC2.

Gogogo Kas!
Hey! How you doin'?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6974
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6975
On December 10 2011 15:56 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 chatuka wrote:
MVP looks like he's in kill mode


MVP was born in kill mode

Sigh.. you two know nothing... his mouth is closed = not in kill mode
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6976
On December 10 2011 15:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:54 dmnum wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.

I wasn't the one who brought it up.

Doesn't really matter, as long as you don't reply, the subject will die. Take the high road.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6977
On December 10 2011 15:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.


Huk lost to Kas, how is that an excuse?
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:58:19
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6978
Rofl Tasteless calling Kas a new face in esport...

Hopefully they bring casters with real insight on starcraft 2 scene.
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6979
well lets hope that the fact that kas can only suprise positivly makes him play better than usually at lans.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6980
On December 10 2011 15:56 mordk wrote:
MVP doesn't look pleased


Mvp to Kas: You keeled m y brother!
Prev 1 347 348 349 350 351 436 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 5: Group C
SHIN vs BunnyLIVE!
ByuN vs Shameless
Tasteless774
IntoTheiNu 516
Ryung 265
Rex79
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #145
CranKy Ducklings19
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 774
Ryung 265
Lowko127
Rex 79
Livibee 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21227
Sea 9086
Calm 7686
Horang2 480
BeSt 317
Zeus 241
Soulkey 166
Sharp 138
Mind 120
Last 114
[ Show more ]
ToSsGirL 107
Backho 102
PianO 72
sorry 71
Aegong 58
Liquid`Ret 29
Shinee 24
JulyZerg 20
NaDa 17
Mini 17
SilentControl 16
yabsab 15
GoRush 13
Noble 12
Sacsri 10
HiyA 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe184
NeuroSwarm177
League of Legends
summit1g6592
JimRising 382
Counter-Strike
fl0m1652
zeus259
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor88
MindelVK15
Other Games
singsing2035
monkeys_forever177
KnowMe106
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL21485
Other Games
gamesdonequick2355
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 443
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 27
• Adnapsc2 12
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• Dystopia_ 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2740
• Jankos1207
• Stunt654
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
19m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
2h 19m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4h 19m
BSL
8h 19m
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
13h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 19m
RSL Revival
23h 19m
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d
BSL
1d 8h
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
1d 23h
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W6
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.