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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:55:11
December 10 2011 06:54 GMT
#6961
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6962
On December 10 2011 15:54 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.

I wasn't the one who brought it up.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:55:36
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6963
Snute wins!

1-0 up on F91
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 10 2011 06:55 GMT
#6964
MVP looked more nervous. Go for the throat, Kas! >:D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6965
Kas needs more headphones on.
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6966
MVP looks like he's in kill mode
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6967
MVP doesn't look pleased
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6968
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37027 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6969
MVP!!!!! I BELIEVE~!~!~!~!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6970
Why does Kas have an extra pair of headphones around his neck?
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6971
On December 10 2011 15:56 chatuka wrote:
MVP looks like he's in kill mode


MVP was born in kill mode
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6972
Game 1 starts between kas versus MVP
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6973
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here, but once people see other people training even harder that's when shit gets tough and weaker amateurs will get weeded out.

Koreans train hard as it is, but you haven't seen anything yet. Foreigners will have to be 100% dedicated to sc2 as well.


So current BW pros have been playing BW instead of playing SC2 professionally. Do you really think that's a surprise?

But many MANY BW B-teamers ARE taking SC2 seriously, and they're doing quite well. A year ago do you think anyone would predict that BW pros would even give SC2 a try? Whatever, downtime in between games sucks, but ignorance is running rampant. Just because Flash hasn't quit BW for SC2, doesn't mean Korea has no supporters of SC2.

Gogogo Kas!
Hey! How you doin'?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 06:56 GMT
#6974
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6975
On December 10 2011 15:56 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 chatuka wrote:
MVP looks like he's in kill mode


MVP was born in kill mode

Sigh.. you two know nothing... his mouth is closed = not in kill mode
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6976
On December 10 2011 15:55 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:54 dmnum wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here

Then stop bringing it up.

I wasn't the one who brought it up.

Doesn't really matter, as long as you don't reply, the subject will die. Take the high road.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6977
On December 10 2011 15:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.


Huk lost to Kas, how is that an excuse?
Hydroxyl
Profile Joined December 2011
206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:58:19
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6978
Rofl Tasteless calling Kas a new face in esport...

Hopefully they bring casters with real insight on starcraft 2 scene.
zerino
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark253 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6979
well lets hope that the fact that kas can only suprise positivly makes him play better than usually at lans.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6980
On December 10 2011 15:56 mordk wrote:
MVP doesn't look pleased


Mvp to Kas: You keeled m y brother!
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