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terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6981
On December 10 2011 15:56 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Why does Kas have an extra pair of headphones around his neck?


I think it's because it's because his team is sponsored by Razer (the ones around his neck), but he prefers using another brand for actual playing. Or he wants to set a new fashion trend D
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6982
On December 10 2011 15:56 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here, but once people see other people training even harder that's when shit gets tough and weaker amateurs will get weeded out.

Koreans train hard as it is, but you haven't seen anything yet. Foreigners will have to be 100% dedicated to sc2 as well.


So current BW pros have been playing BW instead of playing SC2 professionally. Do you really think that's a surprise?

But many MANY BW B-teamers ARE taking SC2 seriously, and they're doing quite well. A year ago do you think anyone would predict that BW pros would even give SC2 a try? Whatever, downtime in between games sucks, but ignorance is running rampant. Just because Flash hasn't quit BW for SC2, doesn't mean Korea has no supporters of SC2.

Gogogo Kas!

Lol, trust me, former BW pros have it MUCH more lax in SC2 than it was in SC1. Read forgg's interview. They're working hard, but not as hard as they can or were used to.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6983
MVP has his mouth closed :\
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:59:24
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6984
this tournament makes me realize more how much i hate mirrors in sc2

the bottom half of the ro16 is all fricken mirror matchups

losers bracket greatly helps to remove the lameness of mirrors giving people a second chance to try and get to the finals


i honestly think tournaments would be better if all the seeds were manipulated to prevent mirror matchups (if possible) then any mirrors that must exist are randomly chosen who gets them. looking at all the matches, it would be possible to manipulate the bracket at every level to remove mirrors. some people might feel its not fair to the players who enjoy mirrors, i say heck its more fair but i guess its all opinions

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2011/Main_Tournament
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6985
This is a different game Artosis.

HoF just starting for SC2. ._.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 10 2011 06:57 GMT
#6986
On December 10 2011 15:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.


I'm just saying. That's quite an advantage to Korean speaking players.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 06:58:23
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6987
On December 10 2011 15:57 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:56 Dexington wrote:
Let's not forget what Huk said the other day about being able to hear the Korean casters.

Yep, let's get all the excuses ready.


Huk lost to Kas, how is that an excuse?


He's talking about how if MVP beats Kas. Ppl can argue that MVP had the advantage cause he can hear the KR casters
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6988
On December 10 2011 15:57 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 mierin wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:56 chatuka wrote:
MVP looks like he's in kill mode


MVP was born in kill mode

Sigh.. you two know nothing... his mouth is closed = not in kill mode


When he was born, I'm sure his mouth was open...wow I think I actually salvaged that
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6989
On December 10 2011 15:56 Seeker wrote:
MVP!!!!! I BELIEVE~!~!~!~!

YES! I love kas but I want mvp to win too.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6990
wow, havent watched any wcg at all but really surprised mkp and supernova lost. up to mvp I guess
nkulu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States242 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6991
Slappin da bass
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6992
On December 10 2011 15:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:52 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:
On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG.


If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race.


What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't?

He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win.


Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2.

If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.


it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.

the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.


Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.

What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here, but once people see other people training even harder that's when shit gets tough and weaker amateurs will get weeded out.

Koreans train hard as it is, but you haven't seen anything yet. Foreigners will have to be 100% dedicated to sc2 as well.


So current BW pros have been playing BW instead of playing SC2 professionally. Do you really think that's a surprise?

But many MANY BW B-teamers ARE taking SC2 seriously, and they're doing quite well. A year ago do you think anyone would predict that BW pros would even give SC2 a try? Whatever, downtime in between games sucks, but ignorance is running rampant. Just because Flash hasn't quit BW for SC2, doesn't mean Korea has no supporters of SC2.

Gogogo Kas!

Lol, trust me, former BW pros have it MUCH more lax in SC2 than it was in SC1. Read forgg's interview. They're working hard, but not as hard as they can or were used to.


So what? Unless the BW pros switch over discussing this is meaningless.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6993
On December 10 2011 15:57 windsupernova wrote:
MVP has his mouth closed :\


Must be full on nerd souls already
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6994
Ah MVP's hand must hurt xD.

And wtf artosis/tastless don't know? MVP has said in many interviews he suffers from carpel tunnel xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6995
ehm, headphones much kas?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 06:58 GMT
#6996
I'm sure they fixed that.

They would not allow that for PL -_________-
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
December 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#6997
On December 10 2011 15:57 Lavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 mordk wrote:
MVP doesn't look pleased


Mvp to Kas: You keeled m y brother!


Mvp channeling GSP: "I am not impressed by your performance!"
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
December 10 2011 06:59 GMT
#6998
Come on, MVP. Make my dream of an MVP-XiGua finals come true ^^
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 07:01:07
December 10 2011 07:00 GMT
#6999
On December 10 2011 15:57 terialk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:56 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Why does Kas have an extra pair of headphones around his neck?


I think it's because it's because his team is sponsored by Razer (the ones around his neck), but he prefers using another brand for actual playing. Or he wants to set a new fashion trend D


Both headphones are Razer. But I suppose the logo is more visible on the green head (neck) phones.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 10 2011 07:01 GMT
#7000
hahaha MVP invented Most Valuable Player
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
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