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On December 10 2011 15:48 babylon wrote:
Okay, I retract my former statement of XiGua not being able to beat MVP if MVP isn't blind or drunk.
XiGua should baneling bust him twice in a row.
hahaha so true. MVP defense against baneling bust <<< MKP defense against baneling bust.
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Double penetrated? That's kind of gross. D=
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On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea. it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously. the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.
Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.
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Let's be honest, Xigua has to have had the easiest bracket in any major tournament ever.. He's beat exactly one semi big known name in Kas and he's in the finals... Everyone else he's played has zero big tournament results. He still has to prove himself.
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Man, I have not been to Busan for 15 years, that country town sure have changed.
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On December 10 2011 15:47 Lord_J wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP. Or did he? I might be confusing hero with JYP or sth. So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player He almost beat DRG. This was back when DRG wasn't quite as good at zvp as he is now. Recently DRG rolled him at Dreamhack. He didn't "almost" beat DRG, lol. He 2-0ed him.
iirc. DRG beat HerO 2-0 in groups at Raleigh, however, HerO almost came back in the extended series from a deficit when they met later on. DRG barely won the final game. So yeah "almost"
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On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea. it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously. the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder. Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.
Elephant in the room is rearing it's ugly head towards this thread. It needs to be stopped.
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On December 10 2011 15:49 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:48 babylon wrote:
Okay, I retract my former statement of XiGua not being able to beat MVP if MVP isn't blind or drunk.
XiGua should baneling bust him twice in a row. hahaha so true. MVP defense against baneling bust <<< MKP defense against baneling bust.
Toodming managed to take a game off MVP with one at Blizzcon. I think XiGua stands a decent chance. 
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Wow crazy results :O.
Just woke up. Why is WCG so early T_T
Kas beat Marinking and Titan won vs Supernova ? Sick sick.
and finally Xigua shows why poeple consider him the best zerg in China, but if he gets MVP in the finals he will get destroyed ><.
Still great result for Kas even if he loses to MVP.
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On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea. it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously. the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder. Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.
What? They aren't because they actually haven't switched yet. You think half ass practicing in your spare time is taking it seriously? Some people are seriously deluded here, but SC2 is not as competitive as SC1. Once SC1 players switch everyone currently will have to work twice as hard and train much harder than they ever have before. The SC2 training regimen in Korea is nothing like the SC1 training. I'm not trying to bring up a SC1 vs. SC2 argument here, but once people see other people training even harder that's when shit gets tough and weaker amateurs will get weeded out.
Koreans train hard as it is, but you haven't seen anything yet. Foreigners will have to be 100% dedicated to sc2 as well.
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On December 10 2011 15:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:47 Lord_J wrote:On December 10 2011 15:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP. Or did he? I might be confusing hero with JYP or sth. So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player He almost beat DRG. This was back when DRG wasn't quite as good at zvp as he is now. Recently DRG rolled him at Dreamhack. He didn't "almost" beat DRG, lol. He 2-0ed him. iirc. DRG beat HerO 2-0 in groups at Raleigh, however, HerO almost came back in the extended series from a deficit when they met later on. DRG barely won the final game. So yeah "almost"
Not at Raleigh, in GSL.
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Let me get this straight...I get back from work and find out MKP and Supernova are BOTH out?? Wow, my predictions failed hard.
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holy shit, kas looks so stoned
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LOL what Kas cleaning his fingernails hahaha
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On December 10 2011 15:50 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea. it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously. the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder. Koreans not taking SC2 seriously? Well then Current BW pros must not have been upgrading computers or anything in anticipation of possibly switching over to SC2. They'd only do that if they were taking SC2 seriously.
Do you see SC2 in Proleague? Has there even been concrete information that SC2 is going to be in Proleague? All I saw is rumors and even if KeSPA had discussions about including it this season they quite clearly decided against it other wise they would have announced that when the season started.
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OMG Kas has the razer carcharias <3 <3 <3
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