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On December 10 2011 15:44 FidoDido wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:41 haduken wrote:
If Xigua wins then Koreans will come out full force and maybe China will use this victory to develop their scene and we can finally have 2 decent countries So you're saying Koreans are at SSJ2 right now and Chinese is at SSJ1 and if Chinese beats Koreans at SCII in WCG11, Koreans will go SSJ3 and Chinese will level up to SSJ2 because you know, Saiyans only get stronger after each battle?
Yeah and you just nerd the fuck out of me.
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On December 10 2011 15:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:42 huyman wrote:i hate the scheduling of WCG, i dont even know wtf is going on even with the posted match times.  U and me both man...... and a lot of other ppl here
I think up next on the main stage will be the SCII semi and on the side stage is a SCII show match which was suppose to start like half an hour ago.
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On December 10 2011 15:45 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player DRG is inconsistent like wow. HerO and PuMa still have to prove themselves against the heavy weights of Korea. K. HerO needs to beat CoCa/MVP/MC PuMa needs to beat CoCa/MVP/MC
Having to beat MVP is a bit unfair isn't it?
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On December 10 2011 15:45 Dexington wrote:
How did this thread turn into a pointless argument about Hero's ZvP?
Boredom from waiting on mvp v kas ^-^
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Damn almost thought they were about to play U-Kiss - Neverland on stream. TT
edit: Go watch Rain's stream while you are waiting! He deserves more views!
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On December 10 2011 15:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP. Or did he? I might be confusing hero with JYP or sth. So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player He almost beat DRG. This was back when DRG wasn't quite as good at zvp as he is now. Recently DRG rolled him at Dreamhack.
I saw.
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F91 doing showmatch on laptop stream 2 vs Snute
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On December 10 2011 15:45 Olinimm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:44 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:43 Olinimm wrote:On December 10 2011 15:42 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better We can continue this when HerO beats them in Up/Downs or Code S/A So...never? lol you're cute  Up/Downs soon. Don't worry you can see him lose to Dongraegu again even sooner in Blizzard Cup.
Can't wait son.
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On December 10 2011 15:42 hmsrenown wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:41 roymarthyup wrote:
sc2 might not get big in china in a broad sense, but the competitive scene might get larger there
the only people that can become sc2 pros in china are people who probably have a well-off family (not "rich" i guess but "rich" compared to the average chinese family) and he can practice at home all day without needing to work because his family takes care of him
in that scenario, many pros could arise who wanted to take it seriously and they wouldnt care about the monetary price of sc2 if they were competitive spirited enough
That's untrue. I worked in Fudan University as research assistant and I could not describe the shock to see how many competitive DotA players were there in my lab
Students in university are pretty well-off, dude.
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On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea.
it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously.
the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.
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Kenya1085 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP. Or did he? I might be confusing hero with JYP or sth. So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player He almost beat DRG. This was back when DRG wasn't quite as good at zvp as he is now. Recently DRG rolled him at Dreamhack.
He didn't "almost" beat DRG, lol. He 2-0ed him.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:46 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:45 Seeker wrote:On December 10 2011 15:43 StarStruck wrote:On December 10 2011 15:42 mordk wrote:On December 10 2011 15:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:On December 10 2011 15:40 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:Foreigners cannot compete with koreans when it comes to ZvP. Sorry Nice BS comeback. it's not BS. BS is stating that Sen, Ret, and Sheth are on the same level as Curious, Nestea, Losira, DRG, Coca. All of whom have 70% winrates in that MU or better Well he did beat DRG, but DRG isn't too good on ZvP So no, hero really hasn't beat any powerhouse ZvP player DRG is inconsistent like wow. HerO and PuMa still have to prove themselves against the heavy weights of Korea. K. HerO needs to beat CoCa/MVP/MC PuMa needs to beat CoCa/MVP/MC Having to beat MVP is a bit unfair isn't it?
If they do it, then NO ONE CAN EVER say anything bad about em
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On December 10 2011 15:47 svi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:40 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:35 hmsrenown wrote:On December 10 2011 15:32 setzer wrote:On December 10 2011 15:29 chatuka wrote:On December 10 2011 15:27 jimmydu444 wrote:
Starcraft 2 will explode in China if Watermellon wins WCG. If Sc2 explodes in China, that will be the end of Korean domination... I really hope the Chinese get serious about Sc2 instead of LoL or Dota.. Honestly i just don't get those games... I like games with humans vs Insectoid race vs Advanced technological race. What makes you think China would end Korea's dominance in SC2 when the rest of the world combined can't? He definitely was thinking Sky & Co. heisting Korean domination in WC3 days. Though Grubby was bonjwa in that game, Koreans, by and large, were the dominant force prior to Sky's surprise WCG win. Korea still never took WC3 seriously, at least not like BW. The situation was made even worse with the map incident. I really don't see how China will "suddenly" overtake Korea in dominance when all the potential talent isn't even playing SC2 and Korea has hundreds of professionals in both BW/SC2. If China ever dominates it would not just be because the game blew up there but because the game died in Korea. it's not like korea is taking sc2 seriously. the talent in sc2 is pretty damn mediocre, especially when you see full time team house pros like supernova and mkp getting manhandled by europeans who mainly play ladder.
Well, the RTS talent is split pretty heavily into SC1 still. There's more SC1 players than SC2 in Korea I'm pretty sure.
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Canada13389 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:45 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:43 ZeromuS wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 StarStruck wrote:On December 10 2011 15:38 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:37 StarStruck wrote:
Hopefully kas/XiGua can beat MVP.
What fun that would be! MVP kind of won when Titan lost to XiGua. Not necessarily. You haven't been following andaylin's posts have you? MVP is best player but will lose to any protoss BECAUSE Protoss is imba and Terrans can never beat protoss, or rather a far worse protoss will almost always beat MVP because he plays terran. I read his posts and I'm telling you anything can happen. In fact, I read every page of the LR. Stop being a negative Nancy.
Im not negative I don't think MVP can beat anyone  Andaylin has just been complaining about TvP the whole thread and thats why he said that mvp won when titan lost to xigua.
I would love to see MVP lose and watch a non-korean win especially if Kas takes the games.
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Okay, I retract my former statement of XiGua not being able to beat MVP if MVP isn't blind or drunk.
XiGua should baneling bust him twice in a row.
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That isn't true either. 1 Bo?
Do it consistently. Honestly MVP has holes. Up to players to take advantage of it.
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On December 10 2011 15:48 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:45 StarStruck wrote:On December 10 2011 15:43 ZeromuS wrote:On December 10 2011 15:39 StarStruck wrote:On December 10 2011 15:38 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2011 15:37 StarStruck wrote:
Hopefully kas/XiGua can beat MVP.
What fun that would be! MVP kind of won when Titan lost to XiGua. Not necessarily. You haven't been following andaylin's posts have you? MVP is best player but will lose to any protoss BECAUSE Protoss is imba and Terrans can never beat protoss, or rather a far worse protoss will almost always beat MVP because he plays terran. I read his posts and I'm telling you anything can happen. In fact, I read every page of the LR. Stop being a negative Nancy. Im not negative I don't think MVP can beat anyone Andaylin has just been complaining about TvP the whole thread and thats why he said that mvp won when titan lost to xigua. I would love to see MVP lose and watch a non-korean win especially if Kas takes the games.
Okay, kas versus MVP is starting now
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Aw no song for artosis to sing to today sad panda
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:48 StarStruck wrote:
That isn't true either. 1 Bo?
Do it consistently. Honestly MVP has holes. Up to players to take advantage of it.
U want MVP DPed?
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