EPTWCG 2011 Grand Finals - Page 141
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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StarStruck
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Lasbike
France2888 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:04 MCDayC wrote: What is everyone watching? BW | ||
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Bromazepam
820 Posts
On December 08 2011 19:57 corumjhaelen wrote: They are a good harass tool in combination with corsairs, even though zerg have gotten pretty good at dealing with them recently. I guess. Knowing nothing about BW's metagame it was hard to see them working. Wouldn't Corsair harass tip off the Zerg so he throws down a Spore, though? Or is it so standard that it's impossible to tell? | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Why in this thread? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:05 Bromazepam wrote: I guess. Knowing nothing about BW's metagame it was hard to see them working. Wouldn't Corsair harass tip off the Zerg so he throws down a Spore, though? Or is it so standard that it's impossible to tell? Corsairs are used in essentially every standard PvZ, for scouting purposes and to help vs the muta threat. | ||
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eNbee
Belgium487 Posts
On December 08 2011 19:36 Lixo wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2011/Main_Tournament There you go good sir. Thanks! Silly me for not checking Liquipedia (which is amaaaaaaaaaazing) <3 | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
It's been said many times over bud. WCG Main stage PL! ._. People just don't want to read. X_X | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
Because it is played in WCG main stage. No other games playing. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:07 StarStruck wrote: It's been said many times over bud. WCG Main stage PL! ._. People just don't want to read. X_X Actually PL is not on WCG, they're just using the stage after WCG is done. But I don't think it's a problem as long as people don't start with the SC2 bash. Edit: Or not. Just saw the picture of WCG schedule and PL appears there. Still, it sucks having to read two threads to keep up with the comments. :< | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:05 Bromazepam wrote: I guess. Knowing nothing about BW's metagame it was hard to see them working. Wouldn't Corsair harass tip off the Zerg so he throws down a Spore, though? Or is it so standard that it's impossible to tell? Corsair is more or less the key of modern PvZ. They are almost systematically used if only as a scouting tool, be it with DTs, reavers, or standard army composition. The classic example of how sair-dt should work is obviously sAviOr vs Bisu aka protoss revolution. Here is Day9 + Nony comment on game 1. | ||
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Snipinpanda
United States1227 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:05 Bromazepam wrote: I guess. Knowing nothing about BW's metagame it was hard to see them working. Wouldn't Corsair harass tip off the Zerg so he throws down a Spore, though? Or is it so standard that it's impossible to tell? Generally BW builds are tight enough that if you was money on a spore at each base, you're going to fall behind. Why bother having constant detection when you have floating supply that detect anyways? Keep in mind that spores are 125 mins each, and having 4 base = 500 minerals, which could easily be 6 hydras more. Anyways, even if you had spores, how do you prevent the DT from still killing things? It's better to play good defense with your hydras and your ovies. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:04 MCDayC wrote: What is everyone watching? Aren't the games over? weird Japanese pop. And its quite surreal. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4728 Posts
 Besides his EPS win this weekend, there is not too much going right for him during the last months. And people who go 3-3 in group stage don't deserve to go through, arguing with sample size is just out of place here. You have to perform when it counts, and six games is enough time for that. There really is no sports out there where always the same players perform. Hell, Manchester United got eliminated yesterday in the group stages of CL although they clearly were (on paper) the best team in their group. Six matches should always be enough to establish that fact, if it is not, you messed up. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On December 08 2011 19:50 KingPaddy wrote: http://www.fragster.de/de/esport/coverages/world-cyber-games/11/grand-final/komponenten/wcg-2011-wc3-gruppenuebersicht.html Only 8 players this time, why bother? | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:08 dmnum wrote: Actually PL is not on WCG, they're just using the stage after WCG is done. But I don't think it's a problem as long as people don't start with the SC2 bash. It's on the mainstage channel and no other games are being casted while it's on. It's part of the WCG festivities if you want to get technical and no one has been bashing SC2. Relax. Most people seem to be bitching about the format more than anything else. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On December 08 2011 20:05 Bromazepam wrote: I guess. Knowing nothing about BW's metagame it was hard to see them working. Wouldn't Corsair harass tip off the Zerg so he throws down a Spore, though? Or is it so standard that it's impossible to tell? Unlike in SC2, you don't need a separate tech structure for DTs. All you need is a templar archives for both DTs and high templars. So it's always a good idea to get one or two DTs. Even if zerg has spores and sunken colones at their natural expansions (getting them to build extra static defense is already a good thing for the protoss), you can drop them into the main. Even if you can't harass, you can camp them at potential zerg expos to kill any drones that try to make an expansion. It also forces the zerg to upgrade overlord speed and until then, it gives protoss map control. The actual investment to get a DT or two is very minimal and they have a lot of utility that makes completely worth it in just about every scenario (assume you've already invested in templar tech to get high templars). | ||
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