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On May 17 2011 21:10 Goibon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 21:07 Kar98 wrote:On May 17 2011 21:07 JesusOurSaviour wrote: Hmmm Spanishwa build? Or just a build Koreans did which we didn't know? None of us ladder on the Korean server and although Artosis ladders on the Kr Ladder, he just calls it the Spanishiwa build because we know Spanishiwa. It's just a build that is on the extreme end of maximising economy vs teching Build-order. Risky, but obviously very rewarding. Apparently the korean commentators said that it was spanishiwa's build Really? That's awesome if true. I really hope Spanishiwa becomes a top foreign player. I'd hate for him to be a guy who invented a build but never did much else. Still more than i'll ever do in SC2 of course. The sad truth is that people have said "build more queens" and "build more Spine Crawlers" for months, every time there was a Zerg balance complaint. All we got in reply is something like "get out bronze leaguers". So all praise to Spanishiwa and NesTea (Spine Crawler vs. Forge expo) for showing these people how to abuse these mineral only Zerg units and structures. There can never ever be too many "pushover games" with this style until the supposed experts and their fan base accept it, so ... thanks DRG.
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Someone tell me the name of this song please
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On May 17 2011 21:18 qazadex wrote: Why is everyone hyping Stc so much? Is it because of his success in the FXOpen? 1. Husky or HD videos. 2. He's notable to be one of the best Terrans towards the end of the Beta. 3. He's consistently performed really well in tournaments he participates in FXOpens mainly... but SK Champions Trophy.
And all this even while he's in the army.
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Today is a great day to see epic games .
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MKP is the only one who can go MMM against a zerg without being ridiculous thanks to his amazing micro. But maybe he has to change and go for the standard marines/tanks/thors...
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On May 17 2011 21:17 andaylin wrote: i think artosis has said this before but its it feels like MKP puts more pressure on himself by going pure marines. i mean, i love his marine splits and its probably the best but putting on a show should be second to winning in an ACE match. still a fan regardless.
MarineKing/Prime is the same situation as Jaedong with OZ in BW.
He has all the pressure on his shoulders. Polt and Maka aren't terrible, but they can be taken out by the 4th/5th best players on a lot of teams. MarineKing has been thrown in the last three GSTL's to save Prime's ass and win it for them. He's never been able to make the comeback for his team.
Prime just has a really shallow line-up. Compared to a team like MVP/Slayers/oGs/StarTale who can throw out four or five guys who all have the ability to beat a top player, Prime has one and a few halves. Even fOu has a deeper line-up and they're on the edge of not qualifying for the GSTL.
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On May 17 2011 20:44 Dauntless wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 20:43 Rarak wrote:On May 17 2011 20:40 SolidZeal wrote: I just don't get it, how in the hell did marineking win that? That makes no fucking sense, marauders are such a bull shit unit. T1 should not be that good. It's fucking ridiculous.
it's not like guinea pig was fighting with t3 units and superior upgrades....oh wait. Fucking lame. Did you see MarineKing's insane stutter step micro all game? He won by being a superior player. That was very impressive "Insane" stutter step is pretty easy to pull off man.
No its not to the level MK was doing it in that game.
It was better than I see from other pros which makes it = insane.
Maybe MVP or bomber has that good micro but few other terran.
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On May 17 2011 21:20 Garnet wrote: Why is MKP even in the poll? For it being another notable second place finish, seriously though, beating GuineaPig and bringing it to an ace match.
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Why are GSL team league results always so inconsistent oO. so many upsets
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I really think this is a coaching problem for MKP. I guess he's too much a "star" so the team let him do what he wants. He needs someone who has enough autority to say him "Hey, stop using showmatch builds in ACE matches"
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On May 17 2011 21:19 Vorenius wrote: Gom trolling us with awesome IMmvp game when IM isn't in GSTL :/ sigh, IM is so good, they need players to do well in Code A quals
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On May 17 2011 21:20 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 21:18 qazadex wrote: Why is everyone hyping Stc so much? Is it because of his success in the FXOpen? Husky or HD videos. He's notable to be one of the best Terrans towards the end of the Beta. He's consistently performed really well in tournaments he participates in. And all this even while he's in the army.
Maan, I used to love watching videos of oGsTheStc and oGsCool (now known as Fruitdealer, of course). Too bad I can't stand Husky and HD anymore :/
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On May 17 2011 21:21 TheSubtleArt wrote: Why are GSL team league results always so inconsistent oO. so many upsets They've been consistently bad for the Prime team.
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On May 17 2011 21:17 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 21:15 Fionn wrote: oGs has such crappy luck in the draws. Had to play IM in Round 1 of GSTL1, Slayers in Round 2 of GSTL2 and now StarTale in GSTL3.
Can't you throw them a bone and give them ZeNex, Prime, TSL or fOu? Would rather have had something like StarTale/Slayers + oGs/MVP semifinals. I thought that was a round 1 matchup vs SlayerS?
Oops. I meant Round 1, yeah.
oGs is 0-2 in GSTL. If they lose now they will tie Prime as the biggest losers in GSTL with 0-3 records and be the only teams in GSTL to never win.
Even ZeNex won a match in Season 1.
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On May 17 2011 21:20 MH_Gunner wrote: Today is a great day to see epic games . current time: 12.22am. hmmm.
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On May 17 2011 21:20 dambros wrote: Someone tell me the name of this song please this, really want it
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So I heard MKP cried today, true or false?
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On May 17 2011 21:20 Rabiator wrote: The sad truth is that people have said "build more queens" and "build more Spine Crawlers" for months, every time there was a Zerg balance complaint. All we got in reply is something like "get out bronze leaguers". So all praise to Spanishiwa and NesTea (Spine Crawler vs. Forge expo) for showing these people how to abuse these mineral only Zerg units and structures. There can never ever be too many "pushover games" with this style until the supposed experts and their fan base accept it, so ... thanks DRG.
The way to counter queens and spines is to stay back and turtle what everyone has been saying for months as well. Just because the current metagame vs zerg is "to do early presssure otherwise you're wAY BEHIND!!" doesn't mean that this is what you actually have to do.
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On May 17 2011 21:20 Samhax wrote: MKP is the only one who can go MMM against a zerg without being ridiculous thanks to his amazing micro. But maybe he has to change and go for the standard marines/tanks/thors...
Wait wait wait, isn't it just the way sC owned Losira in the last GSL?
MMM is a "standard" strat against Z, it just gets weaker and weaker as the zerg gets more and more tech. It's so damn strong in the midgame though, any decent terran can use it and not look ridiculous.
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On May 17 2011 21:18 Asha` wrote: This hot match highlight is really jarring with the freaking starcraft music still in the video as well as the backing track. eugh =p
I can't get anthing from such a TvT without being able to see the mini map. Positioning is everything in a game like this
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