NASL Week 5 Day 5 - Page 73

On May 16 2011 13:44 AlBundy wrote:
It's really simple: if you'd regularly follow the scene, you'd KNEW that Sen was actually favorite in this particular matchup in this particular tournament. I mean, sure it takes a lot of time to watch tournaments, players' streams, and shows such as State of the Game, etc. but the information was there.

On May 16 2011 13:41 d(O.o)a wrote:


irrelevant data? http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2/gosubet/96368
Gosubet agrees, nobody has posted any PROOF that sen was a favorite, only made statements that he was.

On May 16 2011 13:48 d(O.o)a wrote:


Statistically idra was the favorite (going in with a 100% head to head win rate), by the dictionary definition he was the favorite although some people who are commentating say sen was the favorite sure, but the vast majority favored idra as is shown in the votes, and Gretorp stated at one point that idra was a favorite (I believe it was during the first game.

But if you want to stick to your opinion that sen was the favorite than be my guest. I am all for that opinion as a Sen fan, but fact of the matter is idra was the slight favorite going into the game.

On May 16 2011 13:53 Techno wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [TSL Grand Final] +

EDIT: Wrong thread

On May 16 2011 13:52 JKira wrote:


For the love of god stop relying on statistics so much, ESPECIALLY when the stat you keep referring to (the head to head) is made up of ONE game.

On May 16 2011 13:56 d(O.o)a wrote:

please spoiler it too.



One game is one game, it's all we have to use as evidence and that evidence points towards idra. (not counting the bets)

The entire argument against idra being the favorite is based off of hearsay and personal opinions, by the dictionary definition and by statistics idra was the favorite. And by that fact alone it was an upset, people have the OPINION that an upset is only if it's a blowout of a hugely favored player but once again refering to a dictionary definition:
up·set (p-st)
v. up·set, up·set·ting, up·sets
v.tr.
1. To cause to turn or tip over; capsize.
2. To disturb the functioning, order, or course of: Protesters upset the meeting by chanting and shouting.
3. To distress or perturb mentally or emotionally: The bad news upset me.
4. To overthrow; overturn: upset a will. See Synonyms at overthrow.
5. (pst) To defeat unexpectedly (an opponent favored to win).
6. To make (a heated metal bolt, for example) shorter and thicker by hammering on the end.

idra was upset.

For the love of god stop relying on your own opinion so much and accept that MAYBE just MAYBE you're wrong. (It's really not that hard, you should try it some time.)

On May 16 2011 14:02 AlBundy wrote:
Wow I was just about to post about how to predict sports results but I see that you just love to argue about semantics, nevermind have a nice day. Hopefully your statistics and dictionnary definitions will be helpful in the future.

On May 16 2011 13:07 d(O.o)a wrote:


I said he's definitely the favorite, not the favorite by a long shot, if you have 21 apples and somebody else has 20 apples, you definitely have more apples but you don't have way more apples.

Also as for your comment about blind fanboyism, I'm a sen fan more than an idra fan I simply like to argue over semantics.

On May 16 2011 14:01 koolaid1990 wrote:
Idra Claimed ZVZ is his best matchup.
Before Idra went into this game, he claimed that Sen is an absolute beast and there is a good chance that it can go either way.
Its simply because Sen is good.

On May 16 2011 13:48 d(O.o)a wrote:Gretorp stated

On May 16 2011 14:13 Hollis wrote:


Not to pee on your parade but Grederp isn't exactly the most credible source of information.

Also, Boxer made nukes and BCs, why aren't people holding hands and singing?

On May 16 2011 14:13 Hollis wrote:


Not to pee on your parade but Grederp isn't exactly the most credible source of information.

Also, Boxer made nukes and BCs, why aren't people holding hands and singing?

I never said he was, he IS however more reliable than these two randoms.

On May 16 2011 14:20 FLuE wrote:


Dude stop ruining the thread arguing over something so stupid.

And just because your pissing me off, there is no way Idra was the favorite in this.

Idra had hardly practiced going into the match-up while Sen has been practicing on Korean server.

Most consider Sen the best Foreign Zerg ATM, although Idra has been playing very good lately.

Those 2 alone either put it at a relatively even match, or Sen as a slight favorite. Me personally, if you asked me before the match I'd have picked Sen to win, and considered him the "favorite" for whatever it is worth simply because Sen is a beast and Idra seemed unconfident going in due to the lack of practice and his time spent casting this week.

Can we move on?