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On May 15 2011 05:34 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:32 Minaegi wrote:
Husky pretty much let slip twice that this is the last game? (obviously they can see based on how many replays they have) hence kas wins We send fake replays to prevent the casters knowing results.
Wow! Thats professionalism right there
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Any chance Hasu goes stargate openning to punish mass marauders? I believe Kas would react ok and probably put HasuObs behind so perhaps might not be the best idea.
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Cloaked banshees would be pretty good...
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On May 15 2011 05:35 freeloader625 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:31 sc14s wrote:On May 15 2011 05:29 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1. Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units  You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking. I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not... True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops. ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern) And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core there is no tier 4 in starcraft. its still classified as tier 3. uhh basically when you require an extra building after getting to the "tier" i.e battlecruisers need more than just a tech lab to build its essentially another tier Wow so Broodlords are t5? Pool > Lair > Hive > Spire > Greater Spire? Time to learn what tiers really mean in sc2.
Starcraft doesn't have tiers, don't propagate that oversimplified garbage.
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Hahaha, I got home from lunch just in time to be completely spoiled. Looks like it was a good series, though. =P
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One thing that strikes me is that all games have been so similar, long drawn out turtle vs aggression. To me it's getting old. A series needs the occasional timingpush/rush/cheese, just to keep it intresting.
yawn
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On May 15 2011 05:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:26 w_Ender_w wrote:On May 15 2011 05:23 eYeball wrote:
Mass mmm + vikings again! sigh!
Hasuobs should know this by now, but I think the map favors Kas a lot.
Honestly, what do you expect him to do? It's kind of like "Mass gateway + robo again! sigh!" It's why this series isn't super amazing. It is an example of a lot of things that are wrong with the state of SC2 right now.
This is so ridiculous. By this logic TvP in brood war was the most drop dead boring matchup in the history of RTS games because terrans made vultures and tanks every game, and protoss made zealots and dragoons.
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On May 15 2011 05:35 whiterabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:34 BladeRunner wrote:On May 15 2011 05:34 R1CH wrote:On May 15 2011 05:32 Minaegi wrote:
Husky pretty much let slip twice that this is the last game? (obviously they can see based on how many replays they have) hence kas wins We send fake replays to prevent the casters knowing results. Why would he say this the sixth and final game? That doesn't even make sense at all, unless you know that it's the last game. Sounds like possible damage control. :D But I also think Husky was trolling. :D
They have said this before.
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On May 15 2011 05:34 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:30 ridonkulous wrote:On May 15 2011 05:29 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:On May 15 2011 05:11 Chainfire99 wrote:
I am not whining about balance just foolish people who ignore vikings/medivacs/ and ghosts and label terran armies as just t1. Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking. I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not... True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops. ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern) And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core there is no tier 4 in starcraft. its still classified as tier 3. theres is NO tiers in starcraft and never was This is not true, starcraft has always had tiers.
to elaborate, marines were referred to as tier 1, medics as 1.5, vultures as tier 2, etc...
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Yup, banshees. Good move Kas
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On May 15 2011 05:34 KosQ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:28 Samhax wrote:On May 15 2011 05:27 KosQ wrote:
Coinflip emp/feedback fights - at least there was some action. Hope hasu evens it 3-3 for the excitement lol Coinflip? Seriously this thread is painfull to read...Go tell MC about coinflip emp/feedback. What else do you call it then? In the game before, hasu won mainly because he feedbacked before ghosts could emp. This game (despite the fact that kas was clearly ahead), kas took the last fight because his emps were perfectly spread and hasu was left with 1 storm and near to no shields. Im not saying the mu is only coinflip, but the last games showed that both got equal control and can catch eachother off guard - therefore making it a 50/50 situation who gets the better end in a bio/ghost/medivac vs gateunits (&templars) fight. I really dont get what your trying to say with "tell MC" though
Kas took that last fight because he was 2-3 bases ahead of Hasu after the initial exchange. The EMPs were icing on the cake, but he could have gone pure marauder with medivacs and just a-moved and probably won.
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It's funny if the casters don't know the results (I think they don't and they have seven replays with the last one empty) and Kas wins this. Poor Husky 
Would teach him for always being so erratic and borderline ADD though
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On May 15 2011 05:35 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game 6 now on metapolis
Hasu in the bottom left
Kas in the bottom right 2:40 Rax finishing for Kas No gas yet
4:30
warp gate starting for hasu
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On May 15 2011 05:33 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:32 sc14s wrote:On May 15 2011 05:30 travis wrote:On May 15 2011 05:29 garlicface wrote:
The future of this match up is really exciting. I feel like Ps might try to incorporate warp prisms to keep their caster energy intact from EMPs. They've got to figure out a way to lessen the severity of ghosts. plenty of players already do that the problem is 1.) it's harder to micro and 2.) when ur opponent has buncha vikings u can lose 3-4 templars and warp prism to one or two volleys that depends on the meta game.. why would they build vikings if you arent building collossi? why don't you ask kas... have u been watching the games?  terrans build pre-emptive vikings all the time, vikings are ridic good
Well, that and if Protoss manages to get out a couple of Colossi and there are no vikings on the field, Terran pretty much loses.
That said, Terran often doesn't replenish his vikings if he doesn't see any Collo, which is part of why a lategame switch into Collo after opening Templar sometimes happens.
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On May 15 2011 05:36 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:34 R1CH wrote:On May 15 2011 05:32 Minaegi wrote:
Husky pretty much let slip twice that this is the last game? (obviously they can see based on how many replays they have) hence kas wins We send fake replays to prevent the casters knowing results. Wow! Thats professionalism right there
Actually everyone does that so...
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Is Hasuobs went for fast vray push he would win. I have trouble with vray rush because I am accustomed to getting concussive shells then stim and don't have the latter in time to hold the attack. If i go stim first then the 2 marauder/marine/scv push is a no go.
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On May 15 2011 05:36 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:34 R1CH wrote:On May 15 2011 05:32 Minaegi wrote:
Husky pretty much let slip twice that this is the last game? (obviously they can see based on how many replays they have) hence kas wins We send fake replays to prevent the casters knowing results. Wow! Thats professionalism right there
is it?
i thought something like this is so obvious that it is a standard :|
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On May 15 2011 05:34 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:32 Minaegi wrote:
Husky pretty much let slip twice that this is the last game? (obviously they can see based on how many replays they have) hence kas wins We send fake replays to prevent the casters knowing results.
Nice to know, got to love the quick reply from TL staff. <3
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On May 15 2011 05:36 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:35 Drazerk wrote:On May 15 2011 05:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game 6 now on metapolis
Hasu in the bottom left
Kas in the bottom right 2:40 Rax finishing for Kas No gas yet 4:30 warp gate starting for hasu
5:20
Starport with tech lab starting now for kas
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On May 15 2011 05:36 Bear4188 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2011 05:35 freeloader625 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:31 sc14s wrote:On May 15 2011 05:29 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:24 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:22 da_head wrote:On May 15 2011 05:21 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:18 Lorizean wrote:On May 15 2011 05:16 Chainfire99 wrote:On May 15 2011 05:13 iNbluE wrote:[quote] Vikings are tier zero when facing gateway units You need a barrack, factory, then a starport therefore medivacs and vikings are t3 technically speaking. I've personally never been to comfortable with the tiers in Starcraft. In WC3 it was pretty easy to classify builds by main building tiers, but in sc thats only possible with Zerg. I mean, yeah, technically medivacs are t3, but are they comparable (in tier) to ultras/broods? I think not... True it could be argued that although technically vikings/medivacs are t3...they are weaker compared to other races' t3 units (outside of thors and bc's which are useless in certain match ups). I just wish thors didn't have soo much energy...so that HT feedback wouldn't outright rape them and that BC's were easier to transition into. But regardless PvT is pretty balanced...just requires Terran to do a lot of efficient drops. ultras and broods are tier 3.5, not tier 3. (require hive and greater spire/ultra cavern) And bc's are tier 4: barrack/factory/starport/fusion core there is no tier 4 in starcraft. its still classified as tier 3. uhh basically when you require an extra building after getting to the "tier" i.e battlecruisers need more than just a tech lab to build its essentially another tier Wow so Broodlords are t5? Pool > Lair > Hive > Spire > Greater Spire? Time to learn what tiers really mean in sc2. Starcraft doesn't have tiers, don't propagate that oversimplified garbage.
Why am I not surprised to see that you joined for starcraft 2?
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