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R3N
740 Posts
Instead of trying to play normally he does the same shit all over again and again and again. Fail, fail and then more fail. Either he rightfully has no confidence at all, or he can't actually play a standard game at this level. Either way he didn't deserve the final spot. He just proved that all by himself. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:01 Sharkyloft wrote: I love starcraft very much. I dont like when people say its just a game and not a sport, or when articles like "The elephant in the room" are published that say competition in this game is farce. To me, starcraft is a great game and it only gets better with time. And then comes GSL may super finals... Are these supposed to be the best in the world? This games were horrible! I wanted to see the best in the world show how the game is played and then Inca loses 4 games in less than an hour, short, non exiting games. I dunno the true reason for this, but it sure is dissapointing. The finals may have been one-sided but they were important games in the development of the ZvP matchup. This is because Nestea shows that an aggresive-style zerg is possible contrary to the popular defensive macro zerg style. Also, consider that BW has also produced very one-sided finals as well. This is not different from any other sport - whether tennis, football, etc. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On May 15 2011 01:49 Tachion wrote: Nestea said in his winner's interview that he doesn't think Zerg is any better off now than it used to be. Hope someone does the full translation soon  Nestea is a great player but to be honest, that guy has literally cried his way to victories and money. I'm tired of hearing after every win he got lucky and that he was "so nervous" and shocked that he could pull it off. Your not fooling anyone-- your an amazing player and you've clearly discovered some very precise timings that you perfected to pretty much counter 3 gate fe's and DT expands... I'm tired of hearing him whine despite winning. Clearly, as he showed vs Anypro as well; zerg can play against protoss on even if not better footing with the current metagame trends... | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:15 QTIP. wrote: Nestea is a great player but to be honest, that guy has literally cried his way to victories and money. I'm tired of hearing after every win he got lucky and that he was "so nervous" and shocked that he could pull it off. Your not fooling anyone-- your an amazing player and you've clearly discovered some very precise timings that you perfected to pretty much counter 3 gate fe's and DT expands... I'm tired of hearing him whine despite winning. Clearly, as he showed vs Anypro as well; zerg can play against protoss on even if not better footing with the current metagame trends... i think it's all mindgames: he feigns weakness so that protoss will play standard "abusive" style versus him, which he proceeds to crush. i remember he said in one of the prefinals interviews that although he qqs a lot, he is actually very confident. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:15 QTIP. wrote: Nestea is a great player but to be honest, that guy has literally cried his way to victories and money. I'm tired of hearing after every win he got lucky and that he was "so nervous" and shocked that he could pull it off. Your not fooling anyone-- your an amazing player and you've clearly discovered some very precise timings that you perfected to pretty much counter 3 gate fe's and DT expands... I'm tired of hearing him whine despite winning. Clearly, as he showed vs Anypro as well; zerg can play against protoss on even if not better footing with the current metagame trends... But if you think about it, that's a smart way to go about it - cry more and act "shocked" so that you can get your race buffed. These IM players are very cunning - remember how MVP said that terrans were the weakest race? Also, by saying that your race is weak you're sort of implying that you must be very very good then. | ||
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Feridan
Denmark33 Posts
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OptimoPeach
United States137 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:18 Azzur wrote: But if you think about it, that's a smart way to go about it - cry more and act "shocked" so that you can get your race buffed. These IM players are very cunning - remember how MVP said that terrans were the weakest race? Also, by saying that your race is weak you're sort of implying that you must be very very good then. Rofl. Yeah, I see the conspiracy now! Every player thinks their race is the weakest race | ||
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xbankx
703 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:13 -orb- wrote: The game also hasn't been thought out on a lot of aspects. Think about the fact that those zerg builds (such as the ~7-8 roach + ling reinforcements rush off of ~26 drones), they were developed pretty recently despite the roach being even better back in beta. Similarly, in the last patch if you look at the decreased sentry build time off the gateway and the increased warpgate time, maybe protosses should experiment with halluc first while chronoing out sentries and then getting warp gate tech at least while that roach bust is so popular I hope you are right that there are better builds and maybe people will post them. I really hate losing to no skill ling/roach rush. My 10 year old bro can attack move with the 8 roach/ling rush. Yet people need good forcefield to stop it. One misclick, gg you just lost your nexus+sentries and the game. It just seem so stupid the level of micro required is so different. On May 15 2011 02:18 Feridan wrote: I can't believe the whole OGS team, who had nothing to do but help Inca win, couldn't come up with anything better than DT openings -.- I think he went DT opening because it is good versus the new ling/roach bust. Slayersmin even said stargate tech+dt opening is strong versus ling/roach bust. But the problem is because toss's current builds don't give them scouting fast enough. You basically have to coinflip on guessing whether or not he is going for the anti-3 gate sentry build. If you guess wrong and zerg went standard+an decently early evo. You are just behind from investing so much in tech. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
The last OSL final which we had was a clear 3-0 victory and was very much onesided. It also happens that people get to the finals with a fluke, when Best fought July Best had a relativly easy route, SC2 is no exception to this. Sometimes people just get hard opponents all the time and others get easy opponents all the time. This is no different from even the World Cup, The Netherlands in the World Cup reached the finals, yet we had a relativly easy road until we met Brazil somewhere along the way. These things happen outside SC2 aswell. Besides, we finally see that Zerg can be aggressive aswell in the game, mind I remind you that Bisu vs Saviour was heavily in Saviour his favour, yet Bisu at that point came up with a build that swept away Saviour 3-0. Was it lopsided?Yes, however it has become the new standard of PvZ. The game evolves, is that not all what we want?You can't expect topnotch games all the time, especially when the game is so new. | ||
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Jacob666
United States285 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:15 QTIP. wrote: Nestea is a great player but to be honest, that guy has literally cried his way to victories and money. I'm tired of hearing after every win he got lucky and that he was "so nervous" and shocked that he could pull it off. Your not fooling anyone-- your an amazing player and you've clearly discovered some very precise timings that you perfected to pretty much counter 3 gate fe's and DT expands... I'm tired of hearing him whine despite winning. Clearly, as he showed vs Anypro as well; zerg can play against protoss on even if not better footing with the current metagame trends... He should host a show with Idra. It'd be great. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:23 Kipsate wrote: People get angry about GSL onesided finals, but know that this not only happen in SC2, it also happens in BW. The last OSL final which we had was a clear 3-0 victory and was very much onesided. It also happens that people get to the finals with a fluke, when Best fought July Best had a relativly easy route, SC2 is no exception to this. Sometimes people just get hard opponents all the time and others get easy opponents all the time. This is no different from even the World Cup, The Netherlands in the World Cup reached the finals, yet we had a relativly easy road until we met Brazil somewhere along the way. These things happen outside SC2 aswell. Besides, we finally see that Zerg can be aggressive aswell in the game, mind I remind you that Bisu vs Saviour was heavily in Saviour his favour, yet Bisu at that point came up with a build that swept away Saviour 3-0. Was it lopsided?Yes, however it has become the new standard of PvZ. The game evolves, is that not all what we want?You can't expect topnotch games all the time, especially when the game is so new. Agreed. Its just that before this, we had one-sided,non inspiring finals as well. Except GSL2, we never had a close finals, so i guess its quite frustrating. Its frustrating for gom as well, trying to hype up,production etc only to have it end dissapointingly. | ||
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GinDo
3327 Posts
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GinDo
3327 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:24 Goibon wrote: He should host a show with Idra. It'd be great. They can call it "IMBALENCED 2: The Sequel" | ||
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1oo
Portugal876 Posts
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:23 Kipsate wrote: People get angry about GSL onesided finals, but know that this not only happen in SC2, it also happens in BW. The last OSL final which we had was a clear 3-0 victory and was very much onesided. It also happens that people get to the finals with a fluke, when Best fought July Best had a relativly easy route, SC2 is no exception to this. Sometimes people just get hard opponents all the time and others get easy opponents all the time. This is no different from even the World Cup, The Netherlands in the World Cup reached the finals, yet we had a relativly easy road until we met Brazil somewhere along the way. These things happen outside SC2 aswell. Besides, we finally see that Zerg can be aggressive aswell in the game, mind I remind you that Bisu vs Saviour was heavily in Saviour his favour, yet Bisu at that point came up with a build that swept away Saviour 3-0. Was it lopsided?Yes, however it has become the new standard of PvZ. The game evolves, is that not all what we want?You can't expect topnotch games all the time, especially when the game is so new. agreed.... unentertaining finals is annoying, but it doesn't mean SC2 is fundamentally imbalanced or poorly designed | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On May 15 2011 02:18 Azzur wrote: But if you think about it, that's a smart way to go about it - cry more and act "shocked" so that you can get your race buffed. These IM players are very cunning - remember how MVP said that terrans were the weakest race? Also, by saying that your race is weak you're sort of implying that you must be very very good then. I agree with you 100%... but its just like... so misleading to all the non-pros. I mean, how many times have you seen scrubs in lower leagues cling to words that Idra or Nestea say about zerg imbalance when they lose, even when its clear that these players are just terrible and their loss had nothing to do with balance. But they just keep quoting Idra rants, or Nestea interviews. It definitely is a sly and smart way to go about it to prevent spreading the notion that your race is OP, but mannnn I don't like these silly balance politics that all the players play... T_T | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
NesTea is a monster. | ||
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BandonBanshee
Canada437 Posts
Nestea too good | ||
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