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Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
May 12 2011 00:21 GMT
#561
On May 12 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 05:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:
On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:
Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world.

Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ?

I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/


Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese.

Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it.


Amazing that a professional gamer, who practices hours upon hours a day, can win or play well in a standard game. *gasp*


I'm sure bitbybit lived in the prime house.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 00:34:14
May 12 2011 00:26 GMT
#562
On May 11 2011 19:17 cynical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2011 19:17 se7en247 wrote:
Did doa just say fuck you banshee?


I thought I heard the same thing...


Oh no he didn't. No one should be hating on Banshees >.>.

I'm glad Rain won. While some may hate Rain for cheese, I liked his story (he always wanted to be a pro gamer when he was young). Well okay that's kind of generic "story" and probably fits a lot of the younger players but still since we got to see the interview with his mom and his story, I can't help but cheer him on.

Plus he seems to be a good mannered player (never really BMs) and he even apologized for cheesing (I think cheese is fine. It's not against the rules and he should do whatever it takes to win [lots of money is on the line >.>]. It's up to Blizzard to balance cheese).

Sad and disappointed that in the yesterday's game + Show Spoiler +
"oh so man"[you know he's so man when he had trouble opening a can of coke >.>] (AKA HoSeo San) lost though .

In an interview San said he did so well during previous 2 GSLs because he was playing for fun instead of playing to win (that is his mentality was just to have a good game). I wonder if the nerves and pressure to win got to San .


Also I actually don't like the tournament format of the GSL (that is, if a player loses just one match, they're knocked out).

I think they should do more of a league where every players gets to play against all (or at least against half) the opponents (similar to the NASL) then once everyone plays each other, progressively remove the players with the lowest scores and continue with players playing each other until there are only 2 players left (then there's the finals).

This will be a better test of "overall skill" IMO because good players won't be able to get knocked out so early just because of one bad match. Though not that I'm saying Rain is bad (again I'm cheering for him) but because I really think the current tournament format doesn't do well to show a test of skill (too easy to get knocked out).
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 12 2011 00:32 GMT
#563
On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.

taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
May 12 2011 00:36 GMT
#564
On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:
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On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.

taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.



But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
May 12 2011 00:39 GMT
#565
On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:
On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.

taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.



But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.

I agree. The day we accept cheese, is the day esports can grow
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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
May 12 2011 00:39 GMT
#566
On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:
On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.

taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.



But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.


Jinro has not done anything exciting for a long time. Mkp yes he's very exciting but it's mostly due to a unique style.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 12 2011 00:51 GMT
#567
I like watching Mvp play, personally. It's kind of akin to watching a masterpiece unfold.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
May 12 2011 01:03 GMT
#568
Because a topic about the finals hasn't been made yet, I think i'll talk about the finals here.

I just realized now that Inca actually hasn't lost a single game since the Ro16 started. The only game he's actually lost this season was once against Rain in the group Stages.

Shame, he was so close to a perfect season. Admittedly, it's not unheard of to 2-0 Virus and 3-0 Killer. It's amazing he was able to 3-0 Nada, but then again, Nada is his teammate.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 01:18:29
May 12 2011 01:17 GMT
#569
On May 12 2011 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:
On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:
On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.

taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.



But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.

I agree. The day we accept cheese, is the day esports can grow


We all love a good executed cheese once and awhile, it whats gets you really pumped up and excited wondering if its going to succeed or are we going to see a glorious fail. We just don't want to see cheese for 90% of someones play. Love to see MC cheese because he rarely does it. He usually plays standard and might cheese once in a bo5/bo7 which is the kind of stuff we need.

Unlike Inca vs Nada, 3 games of cheese to knock out a fan favorite.
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#570
Unlike Inca vs Nada, 3 games of cheese to knock out a fan favorite.


Did you watch Game 3? Sure, he was going to cheese, but he beat NaDa in a straight up match when that attempt failed.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#571
On May 12 2011 09:21 Odal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:
On May 12 2011 05:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:
On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:
Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world.

Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ?

I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/


Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese.

Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it.


Amazing that a professional gamer, who practices hours upon hours a day, can win or play well in a standard game. *gasp*


I'm sure bitbybit lived in the prime house.

He actually didn't. Prime has like 100 members and only 8 in the team house.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 12 2011 04:30 GMT
#572
Noo Rainbow in Code A

Wait a second, Rain vs MVP games were good? That's a bit surprising considering what may seem like a huge skill difference (and playstyle difference).
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fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 12 2011 04:44 GMT
#573
On May 12 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Noo Rainbow in Code A

Wait a second, Rain vs MVP games were good? That's a bit surprising considering what may seem like a huge skill difference (and playstyle difference).


Watch the first one. The second one, not so much.

Watch the first game of Bomber vs. Lyn too.

None of the rest of the games were worth watching. They all lasted <10 minutes.
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