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nice! getting ready for some tvt and tasteless ladder stories 
oh no  no tastosis
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If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked.
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On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked.
What if just one of them fails?
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On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked.
Stream it!!! :D
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artosis custom game stories are hilarious
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It's not tastosis casting :/
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On May 11 2011 18:05 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked. What if just one of them fails?
I'll go half naked. Your choice on which half 
On May 11 2011 18:05 whiterabbit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked. Stream it!!! :D
Why not? Good thing the weather's turned mild.
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Time for MVP to destroy Rain.
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Rain winning even one game vs MVP will make me give up hope on the world.
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Where is the casting archon? D':
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Crap, it's those two again...
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was hoping it'd be tastosis, doa/moletrap are like nerdy robots 90% of the time...
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On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked.
Nice weather today but want MVP and Bomber through so keep ya clothes on ¬_¬
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Kinda scared of Bomber/MVP just raping their opponent and the other match being pretty bad in both groups.
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I love watching MVP and against some like Rain im hoping he just shows hes 10x the Terran he will ever be. MVP should be back in Code S and if the Up/Down matches go the way i want the next GSL will be sick & now Huk is still in Code S it can only get better. Go MVP!!
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Ladies and gentlemen, grab your caffeine, it's going to potentially be a LONG night of TvT action.
Don't start nodding off, you might miss some marines getting blown to hell.
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lol IMMVP had a haircut :D
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Rain is going to get slaughtered LOL
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MVP looks pretty wierd with the new haircut.
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MVP had a haircut!
He better not go all Samson on us >_>
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Can someone link me to the GSL stream link gomtv player? The gomtv live page wont load at all ...
tnx in advance
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Rain totally has this series. NP
+ Show Spoiler +It's Sarcasm if you didn't get it the first time.
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I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber.
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'Terrible' is obviously Rain.
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On May 11 2011 18:14 stevarius wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, grab your caffeine, it's going to potentially be a LONG night of TvT action.
Don't start nodding off, you might miss some marines getting blown to hell.
Haha maybe.. Rain and Rainbow suggests a lot of quick all-ins though
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On May 11 2011 18:08 Telcontar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:05 nihlon wrote:On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked. What if just one of them fails? I'll go half naked. Your choice on which half Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:05 whiterabbit wrote:On May 11 2011 18:04 Telcontar wrote:
If MVP and Bomber fail to make it to Code S, I'm going to powerwalk through london naked. Stream it!!! :D Why not? Good thing the weather's turned mild.
Hmm, let me think. Maybe the left side. Are you a lefty or a righty? ;P
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There's going to be a lot of Marines dying tonight.
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Hope to see MVP back in Code S!
But why does Bomber have to play up&down? I thought the Code A winner will automatically be promoted to Code S?
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On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber.
I don't see how MVP can be called outright best player in SC2... I don't think there is any clear one at the moment if any MC..
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On May 11 2011 18:16 Taf the Ghost wrote:
There's going to be a lot of Marines dying tonight.
Isnt there everytime there is T?? 
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On May 11 2011 18:14 stevarius wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen, grab your caffeine, it's going to potentially be a LONG night of TvT action.
Don't start nodding off, you might miss some marines getting blown to hell.
I'm on the other side, I love TvT and i love playing TvT aswell it can be "boring" but i find it so interesting and tense
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I swear MVP totally picked this group just so he could make Rain look like a huge idiot.
And I mean with the SOLE INTENTION of doing that lol
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if it was up to me only Mvp and Bomber would go to Code S and rest to code A but this isn't the case (
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On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber.
That doesn't neccesarily mean he isn't. Federer can still be the best tennis player in the world even if he constantly loses against Nadal on gravel. (Just an example) That said, I don't think he is but I do have a problem with so many people bringing up individual series to prove their points.
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Ok i got the stream working. Surprised Rain isnt rushing or dead yet... whats going on...
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Moletrap is growing on me. would not mind if he stays for next code A season. maybe Moletrap+Kelly? would be awesome.
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I sense a one-base timing push by Rain.
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Moletrap is modern-day mcguyver
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lol. i had one of those tech deck's back in the day too.
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*sigh* here we go again...
Doa trying to make a joke, Moletrap not understanding,
Doa doing a long explanation and "haven't you heard of..."
Their chemistry is so off....
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On May 11 2011 18:18 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber. That doesn't neccesarily mean he isn't. Federer can still be the best tennis player in the world even if he constantly loses against Nadal on gravel. (Just an example)
Yeah that's so true Federer is the best tennis player but when he plays Nadal on clay Nadal just destroys him. The best players in the world can still lose. That's what people find it so hard to understand
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On May 11 2011 18:20 papaz wrote:
*sigh* here we go again...
Doa trying to make a joke, Moletrap not understanding,
Doa doing a long explanation and "haven't you heard of..."
Their chemistry is so off....
agree, but i think understanding jokes might not be moletrap strongest side. but who cares, really? i dont think anyone would miss doa's jokes if he stopped trying to make us laugh. if i had to choose between the two, i would pick moletraps commentary over Doas jokes.
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On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber.
I'm sure he's referred to him that way before at least once? Not that I particularly object to it.
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Rain going for a straight up 1 1 1 push.
MVP has as many combat units + expo up, Rain ahead on workers and expanding behind it.
Rain thins out a few tanks but loses an assortment of units
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MVP passed him in supply, not sure I fancy Rain's chances from here on out
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On May 11 2011 18:20 papaz wrote:
*sigh* here we go again...
Doa trying to make a joke, Moletrap not understanding,
Doa doing a long explanation and "haven't you heard of..."
Their chemistry is so off....
*sigh* here we go again indeed...
theres games being played, comment on that, stop commenting on the casters
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MVP is going very viking heavy. I'm worried he won't have any/enough medivacs for his marines.
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MVP is gearing up for battlecruisers i think with all those vikings
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Man not being able to watch these atm, i really understand why live reporting in an LR thread is such a great thing.
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well that certainly wasnt a good decision, rain
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40 supply is a huge lead in tvt
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 11 2011 18:22 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber. I'm sure he's referred to him that way before at least once? Not that I particularly object to it. == Rain going for a straight up 1 1 1 push. MVP has as many combat units + expo up, Rain ahead on workers and expanding behind it. Rain thins out a few tanks but loses an assortment of units === MVP passed him in supply, not sure I fancy Rain's chances from here on out
Really appreciate LR in the LR thread - I also cannot watch.
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All set to max some 7 karaage and watch TvT for a few hours.
I've been enjoying this matchup. There's a lot of positional play still, but marines add some cool micro potential.
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i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.
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time for cattlebruisers i guess :<
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rain is actually not doing too bad.
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gah.. first no state of the game now no tastosis : ((( back to bed
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I must say for all my criticism of Rain before this, he looks a lot more improved this game.
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On May 11 2011 18:27 Ghanburighan wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 11 2011 18:22 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber. I'm sure he's referred to him that way before at least once? Not that I particularly object to it. == Rain going for a straight up 1 1 1 push. MVP has as many combat units + expo up, Rain ahead on workers and expanding behind it. Rain thins out a few tanks but loses an assortment of units === MVP passed him in supply, not sure I fancy Rain's chances from here on out Really appreciate LR in the LR thread - I also cannot watch.
same here, many thanks
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Rain playing like a Boss ???
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rain is really good, when he not strange pushing all the time. as always.
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omg MVP with massiv marines in Rains natural while the mid came to a stalemate
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Come on Rain, do something useful for once and knock MVP out. xD
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rain is surprisingly good in a macro game, idk why he always cheeses.
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omg this game is so amazing, mvp multitasking is godlike!
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On May 11 2011 18:22 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber. I'm sure he's referred to him that way before at least once? Not that I particularly object to it. == Rain going for a straight up 1 1 1 push. MVP has as many combat units + expo up, Rain ahead on workers and expanding behind it. Rain thins out a few tanks but loses an assortment of units === MVP passed him in supply, not sure I fancy Rain's chances from here on out
Both players macro up a bit, jostle for position etc etc.
Rain attempts to push into MVP's nat via the area at the third, MVP is half the map away but by the time Rain takes down the rocks MVP has got back and is in position. Rain loses a lot of troops, and tries to withdraw but MVP pinmccers him to clean up.
Rain looking in a bit of trouble, but he's getting his third up faster at the gold.
MVP with a drop in Rain's base, marines + tank and they take out a starport and do a good chunk of damage, Rain eventually cleans him up.
Rain holding firm at his gold, supplies are actually fairly evening
Rain trying to counter push at MVP's gold, MVP actually pulls scv's off the line to deal with it.
Big counter drop at Rain's natural doing a lot of damage to scv's, Rain cleans it up pretty quickly though. He's doing a tremendous job of covering MVP's moves around the centre of the map and actually has a small supply lead plus a small upgrade advantage
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when did rain get good at this game all of a sudden :3
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On May 11 2011 18:29 pdd wrote:
I must say for all my criticism of Rain before this, he looks a lot more improved this game.
Yeah I concur, he's really stepped up his game.
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Rain playing way better than people usually give him credit for.
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Rain playing like a boss, nice seeing this level of play from him. I was getting sick of people just shortsightedly assuming that he's just some terrible cheeser.
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MVP sieged up outside Rain's gold.
Just earlier he did a fairly successful looking drop in Rain's main.
Rain just sent in a lot of marines @ MVP's gold, now sieging up the planetary.
MVP rushes in with heaps of Marines MVP cleans it up, and the Medivacs.
Still sieging Rain's Gold.
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bah. No surprise, hate to see MVP win like this.
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wow I don't like MVP's new haircut lol
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wow, awesome game!!
Rain gg's and mvp take first game ^^
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Impressed by Rain's play
But MVP is MVP
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After a big battle over the planetaries at the gold, Rain's planetary goes down! GG!
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You have to feel bad for Rain, having to go against the game-genie terran
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Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 1)?Yes (24) 83% If you have time (3) 10% No (2) 7% 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 1)? (Vote): Yes
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MVP entrenching on the left alley, Rain spots it due to sensor towers and moves in place. Loses his vespene geyser on the gold but no major damage done.
Rain counters to MVP's push via the right to the gold. MVP sacrifices some SCVs to fend it off and kills the tanks, meanwhile a marine drop at the natural of Rain kills quite some SCVs as well.
Rain now pushing down the right alley,shells the planetary fortress. MVP pushes in and cleans up all of Rain's marines.
MVP's force on the left side punishes and Rain loses all his SCVs at the gold to defend it. Rain GGs.
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gg. must say. didn't think rain really had any shot. certainly playing better than the last times i've seen him play
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Rain played really well in that games, good job to him.
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Rain played quite well actually, but not enough to take out MVP.
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i hope rain don't go hulk madness next games
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gg, rain played really well, but its hard to beat MVP haha
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MVP is just too solid. Didn't think Rain even looked like winning at any point.
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Good game!
+ Show Spoiler +Rain looked a bit better than he has been but IMMvp is just soo good and hes drops did alot of damage and that was a very convincing win imo.
Bring on game 2 !!
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On May 11 2011 18:32 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:22 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 18:16 pdd wrote:
I don't get why Doa only started calling MVP the best player in SC2 after he lost to Bomber. I'm sure he's referred to him that way before at least once? Not that I particularly object to it. == Rain going for a straight up 1 1 1 push. MVP has as many combat units + expo up, Rain ahead on workers and expanding behind it. Rain thins out a few tanks but loses an assortment of units === MVP passed him in supply, not sure I fancy Rain's chances from here on out Both players macro up a bit, jostle for position etc etc. Rain attempts to push into MVP's nat via the area at the third, MVP is half the map away but by the time Rain takes down the rocks MVP has got back and is in position. Rain loses a lot of troops, and tries to withdraw but MVP pinmccers him to clean up. Rain looking in a bit of trouble, but he's getting his third up faster at the gold. MVP with a drop in Rain's base, marines + tank and they take out a starport and do a good chunk of damage, Rain eventually cleans him up. Rain holding firm at his gold, supplies are actually fairly evening Rain trying to counter push at MVP's gold, MVP actually pulls scv's off the line to deal with it. Big counter drop at Rain's natural doing a lot of damage to scv's, Rain cleans it up pretty quickly though. He's doing a tremendous job of covering MVP's moves around the centre of the map and actually has a small supply lead plus a small upgrade advantage
Rain with a huge play, flanks around the centre of the watchtower and does a lot of damage outside MVP's gold.
Rain gets perhaps a bit too greedy, he commits really heavily at MVPs third and despite the upgrade advantage he doesn't quite have enough to win out there.
MVP instantly pushes at Rain's gold and fourth in retaliation, and as MVP's marines take out the fourth, Rain is forced to pull scv's at his gold to try break the tank line.
It's futile though and Rain GG's out.
MVP as usual solid in the face of adversity, good effort from Rain though.
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I really dont get why people say TvT is the most exiting matchup ... Its tanks and marines / medivacs. Theres allmost never any difference or advanced tactics after a marine / tank tactic.
Atleast PvP can go into DT / blink / massgate / colo / air , while zerg macrogames have roach, hydra, ling, blord, corrupters, muta... its never the same...
I agree drops make TvT exciting , but thats only because TvT drops are pretty effecient...
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Rain has always been underestimated by a lot of ppl on TL. That he all-ins a lot doesn't mean he can't play macro games.
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The observer didn't catch it, but Rain let the orbital at his natural burn down. That might have cost him the game.
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Rain set his marine ball into MVPs marine arc, 1/2 his marines were not attacking for quiet a long time. Upgrades didn't matter, concave winz
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That was a pretty good game. Rain's a lot better than I remember him.
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Looks like there are a LOT of empty chairs in the studio....
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Rain is actually damn good at every match-up except TvZ. He just cheeses every game against Zerg and makes huge blunders, which is why he has his bad reputation.
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Crevasse, Rain spawning at the bottom left, MVP at the top right. Rain going gas first.
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Game 2 on Crevasse:
 Rain spawning @ 7
MVP spawning @ 1
Rain opening with gas first, typical indicator of banshees.
MVP opens with a 15cc, favouring his desires for strong early eco.
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On May 11 2011 18:35 Serelitz wrote:
That was a pretty good game. Rain's a lot better than I remember him.
Well TvT is not the match up you can just go and kill your opponent pretty hard to make it look 1 sided
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Rain is actually playing pretty well. Assuming he loses, i'm less hopeful about Rainbow's chances (kinda assumed Rain would get stomped by both).
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On May 11 2011 18:36 Serelitz wrote:
Crevasse, Rain spawning at the bottom left, MVP at the top right. Rain going gas first.
3:00
MVP going CC first, Rain making a factory.
edit: nvm someone else LRing better than I can
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Does anyone else notice that the buildings have Korean names now? Has it always been like that with GSL broadcasts? Because I've only just noticed it.
Now I see the buildings with English names...
Did anyone else see the Korean name on a building?
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On May 11 2011 18:36 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:35 Serelitz wrote:
That was a pretty good game. Rain's a lot better than I remember him. Well TvT is not the match up you can just go and kill your opponent pretty hard to make it look 1 sided
not necessarily true. remember the series where MVP 4-0'ed MKP. All the games were pretty one sided there.
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On May 11 2011 18:37 Doctorbeat wrote:
Does anyone else notice that the buildings have Korean names now? Has it always been like that with GSL broadcasts? Because I've only just noticed it.
sometimes they switch from the english guy to the korean guy.
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No eng bay, no port. Looking bad for MVP
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MVP with the money scan right on Rain's buildings.
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Crisp banshee micro from rain.
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Rain's Banshee's doing work...
14 kills. Going to be interesting to see if MVP can get back in the game.
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On May 11 2011 18:36 Asha` wrote:Game 2 on Crevasse: Rain spawning @ 7 MVP spawning @ 1 Rain opening with gas first, typical indicator of banshees. MVP opens with a 15cc, favouring his desires for strong early eco.
MVP's 2 orbitals are on the way, following up with rax into fact.
Rain is going for banshees and expanding behind that, MVP gets a SCV into Rain's base but only sees a hellion and the 1 gas since Rain took his early etc.
Banshee on the way, MVP scans EVERYTHING.
Some very solid Banshee micro from Rain and he gets 10kills before a viking finally pops to take care of it.
MVP building banshees of his own, and trying to take a third.
Rain setting up for a drop in MVP's nat
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It would actually be hilarious if Rain became one of the only people to take a set off MVP TvT (MKP, MMA, Bomber, Keen). I doubt it, but it would be hilarious.
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After watching Rain play like this, I kinda hope he stays in code S.
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why is rain so good all of a sudden?
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MVP is still ahead after banshee and marine harass.
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Rain is doing all the small things to get him ahead
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On May 11 2011 18:40 RPR_Tempest wrote:
It would actually be hilarious if Rain became one of the only people to take a set off MVP TvT (MKP, MMA, Bomber, Keen). I doubt it, but it would be hilarious.
Wat? Bomber beat MVP 4-2
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On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden?
He's always been this good, he just makes huge blunders that betray that image.
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Rain actually showed glimpse of good play earlier but it was always down played by haters because he SCV rushed when everyone did it...
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More informations pls :D
i'm sitting in the library learning taxlaw but i got to know the results asap :D
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Rain 5 supply ahead. MVPs cloaked banshee not doing any damage
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Kind of interesting that when Rain was a GSL finalist, he was borderline awful. But now in the up & down matches, he's very solid :p
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On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden?
Remember how everyone though MKP sucked at first?
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On May 11 2011 18:42 Wunder wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:40 RPR_Tempest wrote:
It would actually be hilarious if Rain became one of the only people to take a set off MVP TvT (MKP, MMA, Bomber, Keen). I doubt it, but it would be hilarious. Wat? Bomber beat MVP 4-2
Yeah, he's the only person to beat MVP in a TvT series. That means he took a set off him, one of the only people to do so. What's the 'wat?' about?
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On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden?
He really never was that bad tbh. I never got why people always gave him so much shit for bunker rushing Nestea back then when MC won that whole season with 4gate/3gate ray/proxy gates.
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On May 11 2011 18:42 RPR_Tempest wrote:He's always been this good, he just makes huge blunders that betray that image.
Yeah, for some reason, when players massively screw up or just play badly on TV, people think that's how that player actually plays all the time, rather than giving any benefit of doubt. When you see Rain playing like this, this is his actual skill level, likely how good he is in practice in an unpressured environment. That's why it's always annoying as shit to see tons of people in LR threads going "hurp durp rain is terrible el oh el" when he plays badly.
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On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden?
i think we were led by artosis to believe that rain was some kind of one base, all in, terrible player haha.
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rain plays some good sc2 right here, thought he couldnt do that at all, good for him
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On May 11 2011 18:40 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:36 Asha` wrote:Game 2 on Crevasse: Rain spawning @ 7 MVP spawning @ 1 Rain opening with gas first, typical indicator of banshees. MVP opens with a 15cc, favouring his desires for strong early eco. MVP's 2 orbitals are on the way, following up with rax into fact. Rain is going for banshees and expanding behind that, MVP gets a SCV into Rain's base but only sees a hellion and the 1 gas since Rain took his early etc. Banshee on the way, MVP scans EVERYTHING. Some very solid Banshee micro from Rain and he gets 10kills before a viking finally pops to take care of it. MVP building banshees of his own, and trying to take a third. Rain setting up for a drop in MVP's nat
Rain's drop does a good bit of damage, he's keeping MVP in check constantly so far and is up about 12 supply.
Cloak is done for MVP, Rain saw the banshee though so has turrets on the way up as well as vikings that snipe out the banshee just as it arrives.
Rain with a slight tank lead and it looks like he'll have siege mode done first, a good scan snipes out another banshee.
MVP spreading himself well defensively, covering for drops and harass. Rain tries to siege the natural a bit, but MVP's doing a great job of nullifying damage.
This gives MVP the chance to finally take his 3rd, but Rain almost has his up too now.
Slight supply advantage for MVP as we approach 15minutes.
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On May 11 2011 18:43 Mercury- wrote:He really never was that bad tbh. I never got why people always gave him so much shit for bunker rushing Nestea back then when MC won that whole season with 4gate/3gate ray/proxy gates.
whats your point about MC? you mean he won GSL by playing protoss?
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On May 11 2011 18:45 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:43 Mercury- wrote:On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden? He really never was that bad tbh. I never got why people always gave him so much shit for bunker rushing Nestea back then when MC won that whole season with 4gate/3gate ray/proxy gates. whats your point about MC? you mean he won GSL by playing protoss?
Lol, MC winning with 4gate/3gate void/proxy fates in Season 3 is probably one of the most laughably wrong things I've heard in a while.
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You guys seem to forget that Rain's TvT has always been pretty solid. I can't remember who he went up against, but he's done fairly well in this matchup in the past.
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On May 11 2011 18:41 ChickenLips wrote:
why is rain so good all of a sudden?
He was always better than the "uhhhh nothing but cheese"-crybabies made it look.
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i think this is the first time we've ever seen a fourth base by rain :O
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Please let there be battlecruisers.
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71 SCV's for MVP compared to 53 for Rain...
MVP's macro is so good :D
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On May 11 2011 18:44 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:40 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 18:36 Asha` wrote:Game 2 on Crevasse: Rain spawning @ 7 MVP spawning @ 1 Rain opening with gas first, typical indicator of banshees. MVP opens with a 15cc, favouring his desires for strong early eco. MVP's 2 orbitals are on the way, following up with rax into fact. Rain is going for banshees and expanding behind that, MVP gets a SCV into Rain's base but only sees a hellion and the 1 gas since Rain took his early etc. Banshee on the way, MVP scans EVERYTHING. Some very solid Banshee micro from Rain and he gets 10kills before a viking finally pops to take care of it. MVP building banshees of his own, and trying to take a third. Rain setting up for a drop in MVP's nat Rain's drop does a good bit of damage, he's keeping MVP in check constantly so far and is up about 12 supply. Cloak is done for MVP, Rain saw the banshee though so has turrets on the way up as well as vikings that snipe out the banshee just as it arrives. Rain with a slight tank lead and it looks like he'll have siege mode done first, a good scan snipes out another banshee. MVP spreading himself well defensively, covering for drops and harass. Rain tries to siege the natural a bit, but MVP's doing a great job of nullifying damage. This gives MVP the chance to finally take his 3rd, but Rain almost has his up too now. Slight supply advantage for MVP as we approach 15minutes.
Both players have transitioned into roughly the same, 2fact marine/tank. Both at 1-0 and working on 1-1.
Rain going for a third fact to try take the tank advantage, MVP is already looking to take his fourth.
This is the bit where it gets messy, the constant manouvering for position in the centre of Crevasse is really ramping up, Rain looks to push into MVP's third but MVP has him covered, and in return gets the siege first vs Rain as they move back to the centre.
Rain backs out quickly and manages to snipe out a couple of tanks, he's also looking to take his fourth now.
MVP dropping at Rain's third, does a bit of damage but gets cleaned up.
We're about to hit 20 minutes, and Rain just pulled off a very cute drop onto some lonely tanks to even things up a little.
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On May 11 2011 18:48 Doctorbeat wrote:
71 SCV's for MVP compared to 53 for Rain...
MVP's macro is so good :D
MVP took a TON of SCVs on his last drop
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ugh... 3 free non-sieged tanks
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So, speaking of Rain's huge blunders...
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On May 11 2011 18:46 supersoft wrote:
maybe rain has a good day. usually he plays superbad with strange all-ins that don't work
i love how on TL you are either MVP/MC or you are a terribad. There is no such thing as "good", there is only gosu and bad.
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I'm sorry, but the casting for these games is just atrocious. Almost every call they make is incorrect. Losing your entire army isn't a slight loss, it's a huge loss. Similarly, being down one one base doesn't mean you have an even economy to your opponent in a mirror matchup.
Come on Doa/Moletrap...
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Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 3)?Yes (21) 72% If you have time (5) 17% No (3) 10% 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 3)? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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should have put up a sensor tower!
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Commentary is actually ok today
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I expect a one-sided match of MVP but it ends up looks pretty evenly in most battle.
Wow Rain is pretty impressive too
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lol rain.. good play by mvp though
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MVP has the best Hair in korea. <3<3 I love that koreans actually have hip, fashionable haircuts that you could see on the catwalks of paris.
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Congrats to IMMvp he played better and deserves to be back in Code S can't wait intill the next GSL !!
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What a relief for him. Had to trudge through that whole mess but he's finally back.
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MVP awsome defend+attack force a base trade race but have defense also :D
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Rain didnt play great but damn he played A LOT better then i thought he would
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Rain got a lot better but he still can't beat MVP TvT with his 32-5 record.
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hahaha the weather joke !
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Wow, game 2 is brutal. One positional mistake cost Rain the game.
If he continue to play like that he surely can take out Rainbow
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My prediction: After the Rain comes a Rainbow! ^_^
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IMMvp wins again awesome game i loved this series =D
Rain played so good that i was hoping to see an Ace Match
I hope rainbow gets crushed by him ^^
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On May 11 2011 18:49 pdd wrote:Poll: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 3)?Yes (21) 72% If you have time (5) 17% No (3) 10% 29 total votes Your vote: Recommend Mvp vs Rain (Game 3)? (Vote): Yes
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why are people recommending a game that was never played?
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rain didn't look too disappointed there
the good thing about being picked for a group is that the other player is gonna be pretty weak as well so I'm sure he expected this
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On May 11 2011 18:48 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:44 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 18:40 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 18:36 Asha` wrote:Game 2 on Crevasse: Rain spawning @ 7 MVP spawning @ 1 Rain opening with gas first, typical indicator of banshees. MVP opens with a 15cc, favouring his desires for strong early eco. MVP's 2 orbitals are on the way, following up with rax into fact. Rain is going for banshees and expanding behind that, MVP gets a SCV into Rain's base but only sees a hellion and the 1 gas since Rain took his early etc. Banshee on the way, MVP scans EVERYTHING. Some very solid Banshee micro from Rain and he gets 10kills before a viking finally pops to take care of it. MVP building banshees of his own, and trying to take a third. Rain setting up for a drop in MVP's nat Rain's drop does a good bit of damage, he's keeping MVP in check constantly so far and is up about 12 supply. Cloak is done for MVP, Rain saw the banshee though so has turrets on the way up as well as vikings that snipe out the banshee just as it arrives. Rain with a slight tank lead and it looks like he'll have siege mode done first, a good scan snipes out another banshee. MVP spreading himself well defensively, covering for drops and harass. Rain tries to siege the natural a bit, but MVP's doing a great job of nullifying damage. This gives MVP the chance to finally take his 3rd, but Rain almost has his up too now. Slight supply advantage for MVP as we approach 15minutes. Both players have transitioned into roughly the same, 2fact marine/tank. Both at 1-0 and working on 1-1. Rain going for a third fact to try take the tank advantage, MVP is already looking to take his fourth. This is the bit where it gets messy, the constant manouvering for position in the centre of Crevasse is really ramping up, Rain looks to push into MVP's third but MVP has him covered, and in return gets the siege first vs Rain as they move back to the centre. Rain backs out quickly and manages to snipe out a couple of tanks, he's also looking to take his fourth now. MVP dropping at Rain's third, does a bit of damage but gets cleaned up. We're about to hit 20 minutes, and Rain just pulled off a very cute drop onto some lonely tanks to even things up a little.
Perfect timing for MVP as he flanks around Rain's army and barrels into the unprotected fourth.
Faced with a decision to return or basetrade, Rain opts for the latter but MVP is prepared with his scv's already off the line and a good tank spread.
MVP is clearing out the third of Rain and powering into the main, Rain does a pretty smart drop over the scv's onto the tanks but he doesn't quite have enough to clear up the tank line and all his bio dies as he GG's out.
MVP advances 2-0, suprisingly good series.
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I'm scared for my LB now... I bet on Rainbow. Rain seems to be really solid today against MVP.
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On May 11 2011 18:49 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:46 supersoft wrote:
maybe rain has a good day. usually he plays superbad with strange all-ins that don't work i love how on TL you are either MVP/MC or you are a terribad. There is no such thing as "good", there is only gosu and bad.
Pretty much, gets old pretty fast. A lot of the GSL players get a lot more crap then they should because of 1 bad game or something, or are just remembered for a game where they cheesed to win, which almost every player has done (though not all).
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Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid.
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why is MVP so good looking? cant stress enough how nice that haircut is. I had it when i did a modeling job for Acne.
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On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid.
His TvP was pretty awful at the time and he was baneling busted by July twice to fall into the initial up/down matches. Basically, he was cheesed out initially and then had to play his weakest matchup, where he was also cheesed.
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On May 11 2011 18:51 Doctorbeat wrote:
I'm scared for my LB now... I bet on Rainbow. Rain seems to be really solid today against MVP.
Rain is very good TvT, his TvZ is terrible though lol
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On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid.
Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now.
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On May 11 2011 18:49 KiNGxXx wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s5Vex.jpg)
He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
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What I caught of the first game was really good and the second game was close to the same level. I was impressed with Rain. That was really tight.
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On May 11 2011 18:52 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. His TvP was pretty awful at the time and he was baneling busted by July twice to fall into the initial up/down matches. Basically, he was cheesed out initially and then had to play his weakest matchup, where he was also cheesed.
Actually, no. MVP just played bad, suiciding his early groups of MM into forcefields and then eventually letting powerhouse protoss lategame takeover. Both Alicia and Genius played better than him at the time.
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After Tastosis,Moletrap feels like a punch in the face;i really hope he doesn't stay to long...now,don't hate me now,this was my opinion,i almost can't stand the guy.
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Battle of the weather. Battle of the finalists. Rain vs RainBOw. TSL vs ST.
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On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now.
correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D
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So everyone tonight is a Terran? Exciting...
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Game 1: Crossfire SE
 RainBOw spawning in the north as the red Terran
Rain spawning in the south as the blue Terran
Doa and Moletrap letting us know Rainbow got to practice with TOP last night...and didn't win a single game he played =p
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I will be so sad if Rain goes back to code A. He's worked so hard to get out, and I still remember how happy he looked when he got back into code S.
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On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid.
I honestly feel like TvP is pretty volatile compared to other terran matchups
it doesn't rely on different points of the game as much as that one big battle and whoever loses out will probably end up losing the game because then they can just rush your base afterwards
TvZ and TvT will have a lot of small moments that matter and in TvT you can turtle and make a come back by just turtling up and looking for the right moment
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On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D
when did he say that lol.
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On May 11 2011 18:53 NasD wrote:He's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
He's looking fresh + New Haircut = Winning the next GSl
You heard it hear first folks.
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rainbow's been in a decline since season one. I hope he can start to do well soon
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Remember that HuK thinks RainBOw doesn't deserve code S, because he has a really hot girlfriend and shouldn't be allowed to have code S and his hot girlfriend.
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On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D
MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best
thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level
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Both are going banshee, Rain making a command center. Rainbow going cloak.
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On May 11 2011 18:49 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:46 supersoft wrote:
maybe rain has a good day. usually he plays superbad with strange all-ins that don't work i love how on TL you are either MVP/MC or you are a terribad. There is no such thing as "good", there is only gosu and bad.
that's just not true.
bomber/mvp/mkp are in my oppinion the best terrans. they are very, very good.
after these guys there are players like: mma, ryung, nada, supernova, jinro and some others I consider to be good.
and compared to these guys rain is bad. thats it. my personal opinion. reason: strange all-ins that don't really work and huge mistakes that cost him the long games.
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I wonder if BCs are still viable in TvT or were they just a temporary fad?
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On May 11 2011 18:59 pdd wrote:
I wonder if BCs are still viable in TvT or were they just a temporary fad?
the game has to go on really long... like 30+ minutes so that you can catch up on upgrades so they don't get shredded by 3-3 marines like we saw in MVP vs. MKP in the WC
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Oh man banshee gets away...
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On May 11 2011 18:56 Asha` wrote:Game 1: Crossfire SERainBOw spawning in the north as the red Terran Rain spawning in the south as the blue Terran Doa and Moletrap letting us know Rainbow got to practice with TOP last night...and didn't win a single game he played =p
Both players opening rax into fact.
Rain getting a reactor on his rax, Rainbow taking his second gas.
Both look like they are going into banshees, Rain squeezed out a hellion.
Rain expanding first, sticking with banshees without cloak while Rainbow is getting cloak for his.
Banshee wars, Rain again manages to pick up 10 kills with a non-cloaked banshee. Rainbow's wracked up 13 though and he's got a second one doing a lot of damage.
Rain has actually had a huge amount of units killed, doesn't really have a lot to defend.
Soft contain up for Rainbow
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Rain gets a raven. Rainbow has started siege mode. Rainbow is pushing towards Rain's base, Rain doesn't have a lot to defend with.
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ok rain just let rainbow take his front door for some reason
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Nice contain break by Rain.
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If rainbow just pushed at first he would have won.
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On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level
i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff
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This game feels like a general platinum level ladder TvT...
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rainbow looking pretty dead.
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Rainbow's siege tanks targeting the autoturrets during the battle.
That raven is really paying off, I'm liking it.
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On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff
that "solidness" is exactly why he's the best terran currently.
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i love how all starcraft 2 casters are always saying "getting taken out!"
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wow, Rain got pretty good since last we saw him, i'm pleasantly impressed by his slow but steady improvement over the past months
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On May 11 2011 19:01 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:56 Asha` wrote:Game 1: Crossfire SERainBOw spawning in the north as the red Terran Rain spawning in the south as the blue Terran Doa and Moletrap letting us know Rainbow got to practice with TOP last night...and didn't win a single game he played =p Both players opening rax into fact. Rain getting a reactor on his rax, Rainbow taking his second gas. Both look like they are going into banshees, Rain squeezed out a hellion. Rain expanding first, sticking with banshees without cloak while Rainbow is getting cloak for his. Banshee wars, Rain again manages to pick up 10 kills with a non-cloaked banshee. Rainbow's wracked up 13 though and he's got a second one doing a lot of damage. Rain has actually had a huge amount of units killed, doesn't really have a lot to defend. Soft contain up for Rainbow
Siege mode done for Rainbow and he's now got a really good contain set up with tanks and bothersome banshees.
Rain has a Raven and extra banshee out, he's doing some good anti-tank play with his banshee and finally gets siege mode done. Forces the tanks to unsiege with his banshee and moves his tanks up to force Rainbow back.
Big engagement in the middle of the map, good spread from Rain and drops auto turrets on the tanks to soak fire! He wins spectacularly and suddenly the tables are turned, Rain is sieged up and taking out Rainbows nat while taking his own behind it!
All the SCV's off the line for Rainbow and he does just about clean up, it's actually fairly even on scv count right now and Rainbow has tried to sneak a third.
Rain falls back at about 15minutes, amusingly to his old auto turrets that are still alive and kicking in the middle of the map.
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On May 11 2011 19:04 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff that "solidness" is exactly why he's the best terran currently.
o rly? i never said he was bad or anything, just pretty boring to watch because you know nothing suprising is gonna happen. MVP is gonna get way ahead in supply and then attack when he is positive that he can break through. GG
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wow. and rain just walks right in lol
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On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff
That's probably why other than TSL3, you haven't heard much from Thorzain.
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Why is Rainbow just sitting there? :s Does he expect Rain to stop makin gunits in his main?
This was a pretty bad game... :/
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Poll: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Rainbow (Game 1)?No (11) 48% If you have time (8) 35% Yes (4) 17% 23 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Rainbow (Game 1)? (Vote): Yes
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Terrible game.
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On May 11 2011 19:05 anatem wrote:
wow, Rain got pretty good since last we saw him, i'm pleasantly impressed by his slow but steady improvement over the past months
After he dropped to Code A last season, he majorly picked up his game and played solidly in Code A then made it into Code S. Played okay in Code S, but he's probably between the Code S & Code A for skill right now.
Rainbow is probably off to the Army if he drops to Code A.
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On May 11 2011 19:05 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:01 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 18:56 Asha` wrote:Game 1: Crossfire SERainBOw spawning in the north as the red Terran Rain spawning in the south as the blue Terran Doa and Moletrap letting us know Rainbow got to practice with TOP last night...and didn't win a single game he played =p Both players opening rax into fact. Rain getting a reactor on his rax, Rainbow taking his second gas. Both look like they are going into banshees, Rain squeezed out a hellion. Rain expanding first, sticking with banshees without cloak while Rainbow is getting cloak for his. Banshee wars, Rain again manages to pick up 10 kills with a non-cloaked banshee. Rainbow's wracked up 13 though and he's got a second one doing a lot of damage. Rain has actually had a huge amount of units killed, doesn't really have a lot to defend. Soft contain up for Rainbow Siege mode done for Rainbow and he's now got a really good contain set up with tanks and bothersome banshees. Rain has a Raven and extra banshee out, he's doing some good anti-tank play with his banshee and finally gets siege mode done. Forces the tanks to unsiege with his banshee and moves his tanks up to force Rainbow back. Big engagement in the middle of the map, good spread from Rain and drops auto turrets on the tanks to soak fire! He wins spectacularly and suddenly the tables are turned, Rain is sieged up and taking out Rainbows nat while taking his own behind it! All the SCV's off the line for Rainbow and he does just about clean up, it's actually fairly even on scv count right now and Rainbow has tried to sneak a third. Rain falls back at about 15minutes, amusingly to his old auto turrets that are still alive and kicking in the middle of the map.
Haha, both players miss each other in the middle of the map.
Rain just walks into Rainbow's main and sieges up all the production and kills everything in there.
Rainbow counters but much like the match with MVP, the defender has the advantage. Rain is ready and just falls back to the ramp of his main and Rainbow has no real hopes of breaking it.
Rain waits for a round of reinforcements, and as his marines gut Rainbow's main, Rain also busts down his own ramp to mop up Rainbow's last ditch effort.
GG is called and Rain moves up 1-0
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God.... you kill all those marines with your banshee instead of SCVs and did not push when you had your army by their base (knowing there was no siege).
How to throw away golden opportunities 101.
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The way these past 3 games have played for Rain, I don't really see RainbOw making code S.
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Wow Rain deserved to stay in code S man.
Rainbow is crap there.
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It's hard to watch games of this quality when we just saw MVP play and Bomber is coming up next. Out with the old Terrans and in with the new.
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On May 11 2011 19:01 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:56 Asha` wrote:Game 1: Crossfire SERainBOw spawning in the north as the red Terran Rain spawning in the south as the blue Terran Doa and Moletrap letting us know Rainbow got to practice with TOP last night...and didn't win a single game he played =p Both players opening rax into fact. Rain getting a reactor on his rax, Rainbow taking his second gas. Both look like they are going into banshees, Rain squeezed out a hellion. Rain expanding first, sticking with banshees without cloak while Rainbow is getting cloak for his. Banshee wars, Rain again manages to pick up 10 kills with a non-cloaked banshee. Rainbow's wracked up 13 though and he's got a second one doing a lot of damage. Rain has actually had a huge amount of units killed, doesn't really have a lot to defend. Soft contain up for Rainbow
Your Rainbow TLPD is bringing in his BW stats as a Protoss - oyu should probably change it to Terran
P.S. in the editing just change the capital P to a capital T
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Moletrap is looking for his spice weasel
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terrible joke from doa lOL
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On May 11 2011 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:05 anatem wrote:
wow, Rain got pretty good since last we saw him, i'm pleasantly impressed by his slow but steady improvement over the past months After he dropped to Code A last season, he majorly picked up his game and played solidly in Code A then made it into Code S. Played okay in Code S, but he's probably between the Code S & Code A for skill right now. Rainbow is probably off to the Army if he drops to Code A.
Is it Rainbow who will join the army if he plays poorly? For some reason I thought it was Check. Or both?
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On May 11 2011 19:09 spaZzNx-` wrote:
terrible joke from doa lOL
But that is why we love him
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On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff
I thought you were talking about how "good" players are, not how entertaining they are.
I think BitByBit rated pretty damn high in entertainment list, but that does not mean he was good.
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On May 11 2011 19:06 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff That's probably why other than TSL3, you haven't heard much from Thorzain.
No, thats because he is a "new" guy on the block. he is probably the best terran outside of korea right now (artosis and pretty much everyone agrees) you hadnt heard of naniwa before MLG either, now he is winning everything (35-0 win streak in tournament series) and is considered to be the best protoss outside korea. Anyways, this is pretty OT.
I want Rain to stay in Code S. he is actually a decent terran.
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lol it hurts to even think about Rainbow being in NASL over other more deserving players
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LMFAO moletrap getting defensive over spice girls
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On May 11 2011 19:10 bkrow wrote:But that is why we love him
And that's why people hate moletrap apparently. For not getting terrible jokes :s
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Talking about spice girls is not funny or entertaining
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On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff
from what I've seen of thorzain his play was pretty standard
he has some uniqueu builds like mech vs. P but that's not really something completely new
I wasn't too taken in by his playstyle either, everytime he played against MC it just seemed like macro up, go kill him with better upgrades, while MVP really moves around the map and multitasks very well (not surprising considering he's from BW)
also, you can't say MVP is completely standard when he has so many different builds for every matchup, and he was basically the first one to push BCs through in competitive play and succeed, then there's also the dimaga game where he cut the map in half with planetaries and put the zerg on the backfoot in a 30+ minute game
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On May 11 2011 19:09 spaZzNx-` wrote:
terrible joke from doa lOL
Moletrap just grabbed it and ran with it though, despite being warned. These guys are great.
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On May 11 2011 19:10 NasD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:On May 11 2011 19:05 anatem wrote:
wow, Rain got pretty good since last we saw him, i'm pleasantly impressed by his slow but steady improvement over the past months After he dropped to Code A last season, he majorly picked up his game and played solidly in Code A then made it into Code S. Played okay in Code S, but he's probably between the Code S & Code A for skill right now. Rainbow is probably off to the Army if he drops to Code A. Is it Rainbow who will join the army if he plays poorly? For some reason I thought it was Check. Or both?
When he qualified for GSL3, Check said he wanted to avoid RainBOw until he went to the army, and Tastosis often say that Check will go to the army if he doesn't do well. Check wouldn't say if it took a couple years for RainBOw to go to the army, so I'll assume that both of them will go if they don't have results.
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On May 11 2011 19:10 NasD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:07 Taf the Ghost wrote:On May 11 2011 19:05 anatem wrote:
wow, Rain got pretty good since last we saw him, i'm pleasantly impressed by his slow but steady improvement over the past months After he dropped to Code A last season, he majorly picked up his game and played solidly in Code A then made it into Code S. Played okay in Code S, but he's probably between the Code S & Code A for skill right now. Rainbow is probably off to the Army if he drops to Code A. Is it Rainbow who will join the army if he plays poorly? For some reason I thought it was Check. Or both?
I think it's Check that was holding off his military service.
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Both players again mirroring their builds.
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both players with the same builds thus far. rax > tech lab > reaper > exapnd
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lol this really is a mirror matchup.
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Match 2 on Xel'Naga Caverns
Rain spawning in the south @ 7
RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1
Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p
Both players opening rax gas
Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second.
Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio.
Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD
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On May 11 2011 19:13 Asha` wrote:Match 2 on Xel'Naga CavernsRain spawning in the south @ 7 RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1 Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p Both players opening rax gas Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second. Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio. Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD
Rainbow =  lol you're confusing me everytime i read it i have to do a double take :p
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Rain going banshees with cloak! Rainbow's stim timing could hit Rain hard.
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3 hits instead of 4, doenst that not matter at all? See how banshees shoot 2 missles at the same time...
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I've always liked rain after he copped all that shit when he scv rushed Nestea out of the GSL - kind of hoping he wins this series
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On May 11 2011 19:10 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:06 zerious wrote:On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff That's probably why other than TSL3, you haven't heard much from Thorzain. No, thats because he is a "new" guy on the block. he is probably the best terran outside of korea right now (artosis and pretty much everyone agrees) you hadnt heard of naniwa before MLG either, now he is winning everything (35-0 win streak in tournament series) and is considered to be the best protoss outside korea. Anyways, this is pretty OT. I want Rain to stay in Code S. he is actually a decent terran.
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
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I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season?
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Ugh, this is so pathetic by Rainbow.
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rainbow supply blocked. and rain took out the 2 scvs building the 2 supply depots. ouch
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On May 11 2011 19:15 nugget-92 wrote:
I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season?
He's good at cheesing the zergs. I doubt he practices much looking at how sloppy he plays.
Edit: I read it Rainbow instead of Rain. Rain is obviously much better than Rainbow.
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Banshee day but certainly not a reaper day
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On May 11 2011 19:13 Asha` wrote:Match 2 on Xel'Naga CavernsRain spawning in the south @ 7 RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1 Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p Both players opening rax gas Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second. Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio. Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD
7minutes
Rainbow rallying out a lot of bio, stim is almost finished for him.
Rain with a bit of hellion micro in the middle of the map softens up a bunch of marines, he's got a cloaked banshee on the way.
If Rainbow stims up the ramp anytime soon he could do quite a good chunk of damage.
Rain's banshee running free and forcing Rainbow to pull all the way back.
Rainbow supply blocked and queued in his rax, Rain picks off the scv's building the new depots prolonging Rainbow's woes.
Rain's banshee doing huge damage, now up to 19 kills...and finally dies. A new banshee has arrived though to take its place.
Rain up 20 workers, with almost the same amount of marines, and siege 3 tanks to Rainbow's none.
Rainbow starting up drops to try get back into the game.
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Did doa just say fuck you banshee?
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At least one awful player is going to code A after this...
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On May 11 2011 19:17 se7en247 wrote:
Did doa just say fuck you banshee?
I thought I heard the same thing...
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On May 11 2011 19:16 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:15 nugget-92 wrote:
I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season? He's good at cheesing the zergs. I doubt he practices much looking at how sloppy he plays.
He gave an overall good series against MVP. What do you expect, him to beat MVP 2-0 or 2-1 in a ridiculously close series?
Not everyone can be the best/top3 player in the world.
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Its rainin Mules>Its rainin minerals
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On May 11 2011 19:16 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:15 nugget-92 wrote:
I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season? He's good at cheesing the zergs. I doubt he practices much looking at how sloppy he plays.
Lol - he's also good at winning SC2; not the best, but he is about to be Code S..
He cheesed Nestea and then made a public apology, get over it; it was ages ago. I'd cheese everybody if it got me to the finals of a GSL
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On May 11 2011 19:16 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:15 nugget-92 wrote:
I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season? He's good at cheesing the zergs. I doubt he practices much looking at how sloppy he plays.
Rain's play today isn't sloppy. He is playing quite well actually.
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Please, give us back Tasteosis
I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this.
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"Immediately do drugs and chase planes" Lol.
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On May 11 2011 19:14 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:10 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:06 zerious wrote:On May 11 2011 19:03 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On May 11 2011 18:55 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 18:53 Caphe wrote:On May 11 2011 18:51 n0ise wrote:
Still can't understand how this kid fell to the U/D matches initially. Still think he's in a class of his own, so freakin' solid. Mvp was knocked down by July which is the finalist of last season GSL. So hes still the best Terran out there right now. correction: best terran in korea. MC thinks Thorzain is better :D MC has been known to think anyone that beats him is the best thorzain's tvp is good, but you're fucking out of your mind if you think thorzain's tvt and tvz are on the same level i dont know about thorzain vs mvp but i think thorzain is more interesting to watch. MVP is so predictable in his "solidness" while thorzain comes up with cool crazy stuff That's probably why other than TSL3, you haven't heard much from Thorzain. No, thats because he is a "new" guy on the block. he is probably the best terran outside of korea right now (artosis and pretty much everyone agrees) you hadnt heard of naniwa before MLG either, now he is winning everything (35-0 win streak in tournament series) and is considered to be the best protoss outside korea. Anyways, this is pretty OT. I want Rain to stay in Code S. he is actually a decent terran. I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more. Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good) Kas Strelok Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
Everyone in EU knew that NaNiWa is a beast lol.
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On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this.
Doatrap is an awesome combo <3
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On May 11 2011 19:17 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:13 Asha` wrote:Match 2 on Xel'Naga CavernsRain spawning in the south @ 7 RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1 Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p Both players opening rax gas Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second. Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio. Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD 7minutes Rainbow rallying out a lot of bio, stim is almost finished for him. Rain with a bit of hellion micro in the middle of the map softens up a bunch of marines, he's got a cloaked banshee on the way. If Rainbow stims up the ramp anytime soon he could do quite a good chunk of damage. Rain's banshee running free and forcing Rainbow to pull all the way back. Rainbow supply blocked and queued in his rax, Rain picks off the scv's building the new depots prolonging Rainbow's woes. Rain's banshee doing huge damage, now up to 19 kills...and finally dies. A new banshee has arrived though to take its place. Rain up 20 workers, with almost the same amount of marines, and siege 3 tanks to Rainbow's none. Rainbow starting up drops to try get back into the game.
Lol your LR is amazing and i really appreciate but i was like half reading it out loud and read that part word for word and started to giggle
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On May 11 2011 19:17 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:16 cyclone25 wrote:On May 11 2011 19:15 nugget-92 wrote:
I wonder how Rain manages to lift his game in the Up and Down matches every season? He's good at cheesing the zergs. I doubt he practices much looking at how sloppy he plays. He gave an overall good series against MVP. What do you expect, him to beat MVP 2-0 or 2-1 in a ridiculously close series? Not everyone can be the best/top3 player in the world.
Lol, nvm my post. I thought we're talking about Rainbow >.<
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Rainbow is playing fairly poorly this game... It's very sad, imo.
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Rainbow's macro is quite bad hes like 50 behind
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Marine vs marine battles are hard to follow.
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On May 11 2011 19:20 VashTS wrote:
Rainbow is playing fairly poorly this game... It's very sad, imo.
looks like mistakes from lack of practice
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i actually feel bad for rainbow :/
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Pretty stupid racks location in a TvT.....
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rainbow's just as good as he was in season 1. aka hasn't improved at all
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On May 11 2011 19:20 thoradycus wrote:
Rainbow's macro is quite bad hes like 50 behind
Or Rain's macro is really good..can't tell
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On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this.
You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you.
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On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played.
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geegee. rain stayin in code s!
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Poll: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Rainbow (Game 2)?Yes (12) 55% No (7) 32% If you have time (3) 14% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Rainbow (Game 2)? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time
I'm not the biggest fan of Rain, but man did he deserve that (after 2 good games vs MVP, and playing better than Rainbow--although that's not saying much since Rainbow really sucked those two games)
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On May 11 2011 19:17 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:13 Asha` wrote:Match 2 on Xel'Naga CavernsRain spawning in the south @ 7 RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1 Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p Both players opening rax gas Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second. Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio. Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD 7minutes Rainbow rallying out a lot of bio, stim is almost finished for him. Rain with a bit of hellion micro in the middle of the map softens up a bunch of marines, he's got a cloaked banshee on the way. If Rainbow stims up the ramp anytime soon he could do quite a good chunk of damage. Rain's banshee running free and forcing Rainbow to pull all the way back. Rainbow supply blocked and queued in his rax, Rain picks off the scv's building the new depots prolonging Rainbow's woes. Rain's banshee doing huge damage, now up to 19 kills...and finally dies. A new banshee has arrived though to take its place. Rain up 20 workers, with almost the same amount of marines, and siege 3 tanks to Rainbow's none. Rainbow starting up drops to try get back into the game.
Rain all over everything Rainbow tries, has marines in place to deny the drop, then snipes it out as it tries to retreat with a couple of vikings.
Rain with a giant supply advantage and has his third built, set up, and now well defended.
Rainbow trying to make something happen, but Rain is denying him from taking a good position.
Rain getting aggressive, breaking through Rainbow's bio in the middle of the map and now pushing into Rainbow's nat.
Rain sieging the main now, Rainbow dying steadily as Rain drops tanks into the main
Rainbow tries to counter with bio, but Rain even has enough bio there to take him out.
With more and more units being elevatored into his main, Rainbow GG's out.
Rain remains in Code S!
On May 11 2011 19:13 bkrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:13 Asha` wrote:Match 2 on Xel'Naga CavernsRain spawning in the south @ 7 RainBOw spawning in the north @ 1 Doa making spice girls jokes, Moletrap getting defensive =p Both players opening rax gas Both dropping tech labs on their rax, Rain after his first marine, Rainbow after his second. Ah, both are going for a reaper expand, Rain looks like he's going to follow up with tech since he's taking his second gas. Rainbow just setting up for pure bio. Rainbow gets a SCV surround on Rain's reaper, Rain returns the compliment as Rainbow jumps up into his base too xD Rainbow = lol you're confusing me everytime i read it i have to do a double take :p
Goddamn tlpd =p
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On May 11 2011 19:21 DizzySheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:20 thoradycus wrote:
Rainbow's macro is quite bad hes like 50 behind Or Rain's macro is really good..can't tell
rainbow supplyblocked, further blocked when banshee killed scvs building depots, almost full medivac lost for rainbow, wasted scans that didn't even kill the banshees etc.
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Awesome ceremony ^^
When in doubt, punch!
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Game was really, really 1-sided, and pretty boring.
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Time for Bomber to avenge Rainbow for the StarTale team.
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I wonder if the players get to keep those code S "power crystals" or are they there just for the show.
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Time to see Bomber, He should get into Code S without any problems!
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On May 11 2011 19:21 DizzySheep wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:20 thoradycus wrote:
Rainbow's macro is quite bad hes like 50 behind Or Rain's macro is really good..can't tell
Rain wiped out half of Rainbow's SCV's with his banshees, when you have a 40 -> 20 harvester lead the army lead follows on pretty naturally later down the road...
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On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you.
I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays....
Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL.
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CANT WAIT to see Bombers TvT. this is what i have been staying up for :D
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On May 11 2011 19:23 namste wrote:
I wonder if the players get to keep those code S "power crystals" or are they there just for the show.
Well, as they are not taking them after the winning match I guess they are there just for show.
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Rain is one of the more underrated players around here. I'm happy to see him going back to code S.
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On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played.
All true, but doesn't change the fact that judging a player on four games is wrong.
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With an addition of Rain, TSL now tied with oGs as the team with most players (6) in Code S. (oGs can take over with 7 if Ensnare makes it now).
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Wow so its all TvT today :O
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I hope Bomber/Lyn will qualify from this group because I like them both ^_^
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Oh god don't replay this match, I can't bear to watch it again.
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Rain looks pretty solid today. I'm happy he is back to code S.
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On May 11 2011 19:26 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Oh god don't replay this match, I can't bear to watch it again.
Shoulda replayed their other match, where 10 or so rays got hit by 1 EMP,
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this "best hot match" was so awful..
hope i'd never get to see it again D:
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What happened to Rainbow man? Does he not practise anymore or something?
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On May 11 2011 19:24 Lord_J wrote:
Rain is one of the more underrated players around here. I'm happy to see him going back to code S.
He actually has fairly strong standard play. He just prefers the allin when he is facing a much better player (like July in last GSL). If he gets an easy group in Code S he can definitely make a RO16 or better again
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Now THIS is a best hot match.
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On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL.
Hey man - there are many other threads you can whine on please don't clutter up the LR thread with it :p Doa and Moletrap are awesome, but that's is just my opinion so i would never force that upon you.
OT: Asha your LRing is saving grace; don't have access to stream at the moment so thank you lots and lots!
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lol the korean commentators seem so entertaining.
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ugh Rain is still in code S
I wish Rain, Hongun, and Polt would gtfo already
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They're showing "THE" game :D
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Love the korean casting: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAA GEEE GEEE!
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On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL.
The worst thing for me is the terrible analysis, sometimes they try but frankly it's nowhere near the level of artosis. Artosis is probably a high standard, but it's not even close. Also Moletrap sometimes when he yells his voice gets incredibly annoying. DOA is just kind of bland. He doesn't do anything I hate, but he seems bored, has poor analysis, and doesn't make good jokes.
In fairness though, their job is really something that has to be done out of love and I doubt they're making a ton of money off of it so we should be very appreciative of their work. It's still much better than listening to the koreans and not understanding anything.
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On May 11 2011 19:31 Sandro wrote:
ugh Rain is still in code S
I wish Rain, Hongun, and Polt would gtfo already
you haven't been keeping up with these three players recent games huh?
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On May 11 2011 19:31 Sandro wrote:
ugh Rain is still in code S
I wish Rain, Hongun, and Polt would gtfo already
Why? they qualified for code S so why dont they deserve it? This attitude of 'player x is bad he should go away' is getting so annoying. Why dont you gtfo
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On May 11 2011 19:31 Sandro wrote:
ugh Rain is still in code S
I wish Rain, Hongun, and Polt would gtfo already
LOL
All 3 of them are good players. U mad?
User was warned for this post
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the way korean commentators shout sound so monotone and "faked": "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
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On May 11 2011 19:32 ihavetofartosis wrote:
They're showing "THE" game :D
nooooooo
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Jesus, watching this again gives me chills.
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Ahhh that match, fuck it I shall rewatch the VoDs after this group is done lol.
Soooooooooo good.
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i loled at the Korean commentator who shouted until their voice breaking like a little girl
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OOOOOOOOOOOOH nestea transfused his mutas
they didn't show that on the english stream
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Man, just watching the replay of that Nestea/SC game got my heart racing again...so sick.
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On May 11 2011 19:32 namste wrote:
Love the korean casting: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAA GEEE GEEE!
If you love Korean casting - these are the greatest moments
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vpuv7VPb2rA
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Man, the Korean commentators during that 5th set of sC and Nestea were just incredible. Wow, what a game.
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Never though i'd say this but Rain gained a fan today, I really, really hope he stops cheesing because he can play very solidly.
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On May 11 2011 19:31 Sandro wrote:
ugh Rain is still in code S
I wish Rain, Hongun, and Polt would gtfo already
Polt has actually been improving a lot since the end of last season. Even won TWO SK Gaming Champions Trophy's (both times funnily enough over oGsTheStC... and the competitions also had many top players.. Supernova, Losira and a bunch of others).
TheStC btw, if you don't know is a player who a huge contender since the beta but was in the army all awhile. He'll be out in a couple of weeks and should be someone to watch out for in the next GSL. Even in the army, he actually won a bunch of FXOpen Invitationals and a bunch of other tournaments. Would be amazing to watch him when he starts playing full time agian.
HongUn has consistently been good, but has shown a lot of unpredictability in builds. Perhaps he's not a top contender anymore, but still...
Rain just impressed me today. Prior to today I shared similar sentiments to you.
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I love how Moletrap looks like a senior citizen even though he is in his 20s. really liking the guy, he is quite an original.
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On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played.
And Thorzain also went 1-3 (3-7) in group stages of The Road to Korea. Thorzain is definitely a player to watch who is currently having a good run in TSL3. Please stop making him No. 1 terran in the world. That's Clide (obviously).
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On May 11 2011 19:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Never though i'd say this but Rain gained a fan today, I really, really hope he stops cheesing because he can play very solidly.
FruitDealer got so mad at him and slapped him into shape.
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On May 11 2011 19:37 Pwnographics wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Never though i'd say this but Rain gained a fan today, I really, really hope he stops cheesing because he can play very solidly. FruitDealer got so mad at him and slapped him into shape.
Fruitdealer? The guy who's been slumping since season 2?
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On May 11 2011 19:37 Pwnographics wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:36 Trowa127 wrote:
Never though i'd say this but Rain gained a fan today, I really, really hope he stops cheesing because he can play very solidly. FruitDealer got so mad at him and slapped him into shape.
TSL have some pretty good practice partners for Rain so i am sure if he put his head to it, he could come up with some good results
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On May 11 2011 19:37 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played. And Thorzain also went 2-3 (5-7) in group stages of The Road to Korea. Thorzain is definitely a player to watch who is currently having a good run in TSL3. Please stop making him No. 1 terran in the world. That's Clide (obviously).
AFAIK, he was off-racing and stuff in the road to korea because he didnt really want to win (he has no plans to go to korea in the near future)
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On May 11 2011 19:32 Bluest wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL. The worst thing for me is the terrible analysis, sometimes they try but frankly it's nowhere near the level of artosis. Artosis is probably a high standard, but it's not even close. Also Moletrap sometimes when he yells his voice gets incredibly annoying. DOA is just kind of bland. He doesn't do anything I hate, but he seems bored, has poor analysis, and doesn't make good jokes. In fairness though, their job is really something that has to be done out of love and I doubt they're making a ton of money off of it so we should be very appreciative of their work. It's still much better than listening to the koreans and not understanding anything.
Glad someone went there :D
I have no issues with the guys, but they're as entertaining as a blank sheet of paper (to me, at least). I'd much rather take Kelly tbh.
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On May 11 2011 19:39 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:37 NHY wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played. And Thorzain also went 2-3 (5-7) in group stages of The Road to Korea. Thorzain is definitely a player to watch who is currently having a good run in TSL3. Please stop making him No. 1 terran in the world. That's Clide (obviously). AFAIK, he was off-racing and stuff in the road to korea because he didnt really want to win (he has no plans to go to korea in the near future)
Thing about Thorzain though, is he's strength is in preparation. He hasn't had much success outside of TSL.
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On May 11 2011 19:39 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:37 NHY wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played. And Thorzain also went 2-3 (5-7) in group stages of The Road to Korea. Thorzain is definitely a player to watch who is currently having a good run in TSL3. Please stop making him No. 1 terran in the world. That's Clide (obviously). AFAIK, he was off-racing and stuff in the road to korea because he didnt really want to win (he has no plans to go to korea in the near future)
He started off-racing when he was already out i think
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On May 11 2011 19:41 pdd wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:39 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:37 NHY wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 quiet noise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Poopi wrote:
I haven't seen Thorzain in any TvZs. I know he did beat Kas but I'd like to see him play some strong players more.
Happy (highest win ratio with a ton of games, obviously he has to be good)
Kas
Strelok
Select (not saying Select would beat him, personally I think TvT is Select's worst match up)
He took out Fruitdealer in TSL with some really impressive play, along with MC, Tyler and Kas. After their series, MC said Thorzain is the best Terran he ever played. And Thorzain also went 2-3 (5-7) in group stages of The Road to Korea. Thorzain is definitely a player to watch who is currently having a good run in TSL3. Please stop making him No. 1 terran in the world. That's Clide (obviously). AFAIK, he was off-racing and stuff in the road to korea because he didnt really want to win (he has no plans to go to korea in the near future) Thing about Thorzain though, is he's strength is in preparation. He hasn't had much success outside of TSL.
Actually there was a time not too long time ago when you used to see Thorzain in about every weekly cup semis/finals. People have been aware of him for a long time on EU. Rest of the world is catching up slowly. :p
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On May 11 2011 19:40 n0ise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:32 Bluest wrote:On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL. The worst thing for me is the terrible analysis, sometimes they try but frankly it's nowhere near the level of artosis. Artosis is probably a high standard, but it's not even close. Also Moletrap sometimes when he yells his voice gets incredibly annoying. DOA is just kind of bland. He doesn't do anything I hate, but he seems bored, has poor analysis, and doesn't make good jokes. In fairness though, their job is really something that has to be done out of love and I doubt they're making a ton of money off of it so we should be very appreciative of their work. It's still much better than listening to the koreans and not understanding anything. Glad someone went there :D I have no issues with the guys, but they're as entertaining as a blank sheet of paper (to me, at least). I'd much rather take Kelly tbh.
I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz."
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Lyn going expo first!
Before barracks even.
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lol i just tuned in, Huk stays in Code S hahahaha, cool, well done
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On May 11 2011 19:42 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:40 n0ise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:32 Bluest wrote:On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL. The worst thing for me is the terrible analysis, sometimes they try but frankly it's nowhere near the level of artosis. Artosis is probably a high standard, but it's not even close. Also Moletrap sometimes when he yells his voice gets incredibly annoying. DOA is just kind of bland. He doesn't do anything I hate, but he seems bored, has poor analysis, and doesn't make good jokes. In fairness though, their job is really something that has to be done out of love and I doubt they're making a ton of money off of it so we should be very appreciative of their work. It's still much better than listening to the koreans and not understanding anything. Glad someone went there :D I have no issues with the guys, but they're as entertaining as a blank sheet of paper (to me, at least). I'd much rather take Kelly tbh. I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz."
Kelly is a great caster and a wonderful person. i cannot belive how some people actually get annoyed by her voice, you have to be completley out of touch with your natural "being" to dislike the beautiful voice of a young woman. The more exotic accent, the better.
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For a guy who plays in a team that has very few SC2 players, Lyn is pretty damn good. Imagine if he actually got to live and train with some top sc2 team like IM or ST.
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pretty big medivac snipe.
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Death squad?
More like dead squad.
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On May 11 2011 19:47 Asha` wrote:Bomber vs Lyn Game 1 on CrevasseBomber spawning in the top left Lyn spawning in the top right [Maybe it's the fact I'm a little nervous for Bomber, but he looks a little nervous to me lol >_>] Bomber opening 1rax expo, scouts Lyn first. Lyn opening 15CC Bomber being a little aggressive with his first marine and scouting scv Lyn following his CC first with multiple rax, Bomber drops 1 extra rax but then gets a bunch of gas (ends up getting reactors and pumping pure bio + upgrades) Bomber constantly poking up Lyn's ramp with an scv + a couple of marines and sniping out marines early. Things settling down at about 6mins in
Lyn looking to put a bit of pressure on at Bomber's front, Bomber well defended though.
Bomber has started tank production and almost has siege mode done, Lyn is rather behind on his.
Lyn covering for drops, amusingly he's positioned exactly where Bomber queues his medivac to.
Bomber reacts fast and saves the drop, but Lyn flanks and manages to snipe it out as it tries to float across the middle of the map. Good result for Lyn there.
Both going for a third CC, Bomber somehow rallies a drop to Lyn's hidden expo, wtf that's insane lol.
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what happened? come on asha write faster =)
edit: ahhh u already were LOl=)
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Bomber on maphax... finds Lyn's ninja expo at the 5 oclock.
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marines waiting for expo to finish to snipe CC. pretty smart.
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On May 11 2011 19:50 pdd wrote:
Bomber on maphax... finds Lyn's ninja expo at the 5 oclock.
He's even waiting for it to finish builing without seeing it!!!
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I like how Bomber waits for it to finish before killing it so Lyn doesn't get to cancel it
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thanks for the LR Asha!
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wow very slow reaction from Lyn LOL
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Did bomber sell his soul to satan for SC2 glory or what?
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On May 11 2011 19:50 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:50 pdd wrote:
Bomber on maphax... finds Lyn's ninja expo at the 5 oclock. He's even waiting for it to finish builing without seeing it!!!
He saw it with his medivac and pulled back.
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Obvious missclick is obvious. Definitely worth 40 seconds of discussion from moletrap and doa LOL.
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what the hell, bomber sense ez modo
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On May 11 2011 19:51 Tobberoth wrote:
Obvious missclick is obvious. Definitely worth 40 seconds of discussion from moletrap and doa LOL.
Word. I was about to post that.
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lol @ moletrap and doa, everyone understood that bomber was waiting for the cc to complete and that load on the medvac was just a missclick.
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On May 11 2011 19:51 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
Did bomber sell his soul to satan for SC2 glory or what?
He beat a GameGenie into submission and made a wish: give me map hax.
apparently it works.
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Lyn losing all his medivacs.
Bomber has more tanks, Lyn has more marines.
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Of course he nows, bomber killed one marine from the tower.
Cmon doa, pay attention to the game.
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wow wtf bomber just lost like 50 marines
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On May 11 2011 19:50 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:47 Asha` wrote:Bomber vs Lyn Game 1 on CrevasseBomber spawning in the top left Lyn spawning in the top right [Maybe it's the fact I'm a little nervous for Bomber, but he looks a little nervous to me lol >_>] Bomber opening 1rax expo, scouts Lyn first. Lyn opening 15CC Bomber being a little aggressive with his first marine and scouting scv Lyn following his CC first with multiple rax, Bomber drops 1 extra rax but then gets a bunch of gas (ends up getting reactors and pumping pure bio + upgrades) Bomber constantly poking up Lyn's ramp with an scv + a couple of marines and sniping out marines early. Things settling down at about 6mins in Lyn looking to put a bit of pressure on at Bomber's front, Bomber well defended though. Bomber has started tank production and almost has siege mode done, Lyn is rather behind on his. Lyn covering for drops, amusingly he's positioned exactly where Bomber queues his medivac to. Bomber reacts fast and saves the drop, but Lyn flanks and manages to snipe it out as it tries to float across the middle of the map. Good result for Lyn there. Both going for a third CC, Bomber somehow rallies a drop to Lyn's hidden expo, wtf that's insane lol.
Lyn sieging outside Bomber's main, he's got a good position on him right now.
Bomber lets Lyn's hidden expo finish, then blows it up with his marine drop.
Bomber forcing back the contain slowly but surely with air superiority.
Bomber dropping Lyn's nat but Lyn is ready for it, both players managing to take their standard third now
This is a very even game, Lyn has a slight upgrade advantage I believe though is a little behind on supply.
Bomber looking to flank with his bio having established a good siege line at his third
Lyn covers it though and defends well, Bomber immediately tries to counter up and break Lyn's tank line but Lyn has a really deep siege line and Bomber is unable to break through.
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Bomber throwing away his lead
Why so greedy?
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Have to critize Lyn a bit tho, he really needs to find that H key on his keyboard. Losing a lot of marines due to lack of hold position.
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Actually Doa, TvT is probably the most forgiving of all matchups in SC2. So many ways to make a comeback.
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On May 11 2011 19:55 Telcontar wrote:
Actually Doa, TvT is probably the most forgiving of all matchups in SC2. So many ways to make a comeback.
Agreed, you dont see 30 minutes ZvZ or PvP.
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lyn should have gone for the main base when bomber went in the center of the map.
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I prefere Ashas LR to Doa'traps casting <3
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Poll: Recommend Bomber vs Lyn (Game 1)?Yes (26) 79% If you have time (6) 18% No (1) 3% 33 total votes Your vote: Recommend Bomber vs Lyn (Game 1)? (Vote): Yes
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Now I want someone to cheese.
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On May 11 2011 19:58 Cryhavoc wrote:
what zealots??
he didn't say zealots, so stop trying to be a smartass and listen...
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On May 11 2011 19:55 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:50 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 19:47 Asha` wrote:Bomber vs Lyn Game 1 on CrevasseBomber spawning in the top left Lyn spawning in the top right [Maybe it's the fact I'm a little nervous for Bomber, but he looks a little nervous to me lol >_>] Bomber opening 1rax expo, scouts Lyn first. Lyn opening 15CC Bomber being a little aggressive with his first marine and scouting scv Lyn following his CC first with multiple rax, Bomber drops 1 extra rax but then gets a bunch of gas (ends up getting reactors and pumping pure bio + upgrades) Bomber constantly poking up Lyn's ramp with an scv + a couple of marines and sniping out marines early. Things settling down at about 6mins in Lyn looking to put a bit of pressure on at Bomber's front, Bomber well defended though. Bomber has started tank production and almost has siege mode done, Lyn is rather behind on his. Lyn covering for drops, amusingly he's positioned exactly where Bomber queues his medivac to. Bomber reacts fast and saves the drop, but Lyn flanks and manages to snipe it out as it tries to float across the middle of the map. Good result for Lyn there. Both going for a third CC, Bomber somehow rallies a drop to Lyn's hidden expo, wtf that's insane lol. Lyn sieging outside Bomber's main, he's got a good position on him right now. Bomber lets Lyn's hidden expo finish, then blows it up with his marine drop. Bomber forcing back the contain slowly but surely with air superiority. Bomber dropping Lyn's nat but Lyn is ready for it, both players managing to take their standard third now This is a very even game, Lyn has a slight upgrade advantage I believe though is a little behind on supply. Bomber looking to flank with his bio having established a good siege line at his third Lyn covers it though and defends well, Bomber immediately tries to counter up and break Lyn's tank line but Lyn has a really deep siege line and Bomber is unable to break through.
Bomber is slowly taking control of the middle of the map as well as getting his fourth up.
Lyn dropping into Bomber's nat! Bomber does clean it up but it gets some damage done.
Lyn pulling quite a chunk of scv's to try break Bomber's tank line and he does succeed to some extent, he tries to push into Bomber's third and Bomber has to pull his own SCV's to defend.
He mops up a lot of Lyn's troops, but both players have been losing a lot of SCV's
Bomber realises he's killed a huge amount of tanks and just pushes in for the kill, and in one decisive swoop crushes through Lyn's remaining forces outside his main!
Lyn GG's, Bomber moves up 1-0
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Bomber's macro is amazing :O
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bomber is becoming my favourite player. guy is solid, great macro and plays quite aggresive at key times.
Also impressed with Lyn there, he seems to improve every season.
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This one was a lot closer than expected, bomber could have very well lost that.
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On May 11 2011 19:55 Telcontar wrote:
Actually Doa, TvT is probably the most forgiving of all matchups in SC2. So many ways to make a comeback.
Was just about to say that
Can't think of any other match up as forgiving as TvT. You don't win TvT by having one more tank and 3 more marines than your opponent. It's won by having better engagements and strategy.
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Bomber: Here are some donation units for you but it doesn't matter because my macro is so much better.
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That wasn't the greatest of TvTs from a strategic perspective, but it was certainly entertaining.
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On May 11 2011 19:45 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:42 VashTS wrote:On May 11 2011 19:40 n0ise wrote:On May 11 2011 19:32 Bluest wrote:On May 11 2011 19:23 Tobberoth wrote:On May 11 2011 19:21 Glemdening wrote:On May 11 2011 19:18 Tobberoth wrote:Please, give us back Tasteosis I loved Moletrap when he did SC:BW etc but Moletrap & Doa in GSL is just not nice at all. After two days of awesome tasteosisness, I can't take this. You sir have no idea what good casting is all about. Please get some lessons or something. Thank you. I guess you know. Good casting = two guys doing individual, often boring, jokes, never laughing or commenting eachothers, often interrupting eachother with completely different things, doing mistakes every game on play by play, saying games and players are awesome when they are doing obviously bad plays.... Yeah, they are awesome and I need to get lessons. LOL. The worst thing for me is the terrible analysis, sometimes they try but frankly it's nowhere near the level of artosis. Artosis is probably a high standard, but it's not even close. Also Moletrap sometimes when he yells his voice gets incredibly annoying. DOA is just kind of bland. He doesn't do anything I hate, but he seems bored, has poor analysis, and doesn't make good jokes. In fairness though, their job is really something that has to be done out of love and I doubt they're making a ton of money off of it so we should be very appreciative of their work. It's still much better than listening to the koreans and not understanding anything. Glad someone went there :D I have no issues with the guys, but they're as entertaining as a blank sheet of paper (to me, at least). I'd much rather take Kelly tbh. I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz." Kelly is a great caster and a wonderful person. i cannot belive how some people actually get annoyed by her voice, you have to be completley out of touch with your natural "being" to dislike the beautiful voice of a young woman. The more exotic accent, the better.
Sounds like a personal preference to me.
Actually, coming from you, sounds a bit like worship, or something creepy.
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On May 11 2011 20:00 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 19:55 Telcontar wrote:
Actually Doa, TvT is probably the most forgiving of all matchups in SC2. So many ways to make a comeback. Was just about to say that Can't think of any other match up as forgiving as TvT. You don't win TvT by having one more tank and 3 more marines than your opponent. It's won by having better engagements and strategy.
why do people rip on doa/moletrap when they say TvT is unforgiving but don't when tastosis says it all the time.
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Proxy rax! Between Lyn's base and the close position base.
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On May 11 2011 19:59 Hemula wrote:
Now I want someone to cheese.
Bomber heard you.
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On May 11 2011 19:59 Flaunt wrote:he didn't say zealots, so stop trying to be a smartass and listen...
Another way to say that could be to point out he didn't actually say zealots but zealous in a friendly manner.
I think you should take your own advice...
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Moletrap obviously hasn't seen many restricted spawn Metalopolis games...
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Bomber going for a proxy 2-rax just outside Lyn's main
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On May 11 2011 20:01 NHY wrote:Bomber heard you.
bomber has hax that allows him to hear text!
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smart cheese from the best terran ever
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Lyn's building a weirdly positioned maka rax.
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random barrack placement from Lyn
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Lyn supply blocked... Bomber wins.
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depot goes up, depot goes down LOL
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Problem with Bomber sometimes is that he is over aggressive sometimes. Though his macro usually makes up for it against lesser players (imo he has the best terran macro out of all the terrans, even better than Mvp).
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Phew... No naked powerwalking for me then
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Lmfao, that was awesome. =p
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man bomber is unreal. gg dominated
also lol moletrap is hilarious. 'kiss it, kiss it'
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king of macro and king of cheese
no surprise he is the king of terran.. bomber has everything
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I like how Lyn shows no emotion after that match. I'm confident he's going to win vs Ensnare ^^
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Lyn is building a reactor on his first rax, as well as a maka rax at his nat
Bomber busts into the main with his marines
Moletrap: "Depot goes up, Depot goes down...you can't explain that"
With the depot down Bomber brings a bunch of scv's along for the ride.
He's got a handful of marines and a lot of scv's, while Lyn is down to basically pure SCV
It's a massacre, Bomber advances to Code S!
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hope Lyn makes it now!
Lyn Fighting!
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wait, what's going? i thought this is suppose to be on day 4?
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Ensnare did get RO4 in first GSL before losing to Rainbow
Dont know how to twitter though
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On May 11 2011 20:03 zeru wrote:
oh bomber... bomber!!! ooohhhh!!
Somebody just had an orgasm, or so it looks like. =P
(I hope that words allowed. Pretty sure these forums aren't PG13?)
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On May 11 2011 20:03 DoX.) wrote:
depot goes up, depot goes down LOL
You can't explain that.
OT: Well executed cheese. I thought Lyn could've held it with a bit better micro if he sacced some SCVs to save the supply depot.
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On May 11 2011 20:05 VashTS wrote:Somebody just had an orgasm, or so it looks like. =P (I hope that words allowed. Pretty sure these forums aren't PG13?)
The correct terminology is Nerdgasm.
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pretty sure bomber's winning code s next season
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On May 11 2011 20:05 brachester wrote:
wait, what's going? i thought this is suppose to be on day 4?
GSL wanted to get in the up/down matches before patch 1.3.3 went live on Korean server
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On May 11 2011 20:05 brachester wrote:
wait, what's going? i thought this is suppose to be on day 4?
They've said for a while (both on broadcasts and on their site) that due to the patch hitting Korea tomorrow they've decided to play the remaining groups today to avoid complications ^^
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Does anyone genuinely want a Live Report for Lyn vs Ensnare, I'm happy to carry on if it's being useful but if not I can also get down to a bit of work at the same time ^^
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On May 11 2011 20:03 Telcontar wrote:Phew... No naked powerwalking for me then
Lucky yo... eh us!
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On May 11 2011 20:04 Asha` wrote:Lyn is building a reactor on his first rax, as well as a maka rax at his nat Bomber busts into the main with his marines Moletrap: "Depot goes up, Depot goes down...you can't explain that" With the depot down Bomber brings a bunch of scv's along for the ride. He's got a handful of marines and a lot of scv's, while Lyn is down to basically pure SCV It's a massacre, Bomber advances to Code S!
Nothing makes me happier than when someone makes fun of O'reilly's retarded arguments
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On May 11 2011 20:05 Serelitz wrote:You can't explain that. OT: Well executed cheese. I thought Lyn could've held it with a bit better micro if he sacced some SCVs to save the supply depot.
Yea and he could have flown his maka racks up and made it part of the wall too...bomber was way better though so probably still would have lost.
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Ensnare just has to cheese Lyn to win, lol.
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On May 11 2011 20:06 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:05 brachester wrote:
wait, what's going? i thought this is suppose to be on day 4? They've said for a while (both on broadcasts and on their site) that due to the patch hitting Korea tomorrow they've decided to play the remaining groups today to avoid complications ^^ === Does anyone genuinely want a Live Report for Lyn vs Ensnare, I'm happy to carry on if it's being useful but if not I can also get down to a bit of work at the same time ^^
I'd like it! :D
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On May 11 2011 20:09 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
fast gas from Lyn , hmm
from both
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL
Loss + Win = Lyn.
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Trivia: Lyn is 2-0 against Ensnare.
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On May 11 2011 20:01 VashTS wrote:
I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz."
Kelly is a great caster and a wonderful person. i cannot belive how some people actually get annoyed by her voice, you have to be completley out of touch with your natural "being" to dislike the beautiful voice of a young woman. The more exotic accent, the better.
Sounds like a personal preference to me.
Actually, coming from you, sounds a bit like worship, or something creepy.
are you serious? i only said i think she is quite a nice girl with a refreshing accent. how does that sound like worshop? and of course its a personal preference. but how can you not like a cute girl with a funny accent and good knowledge about starcraft 2? your post makes no sense. Why would you dislike a person like Kelly? unless you are a bitter person.
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Circley samey = rotationally symmetric.
You learn new terms every day!
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Gogo Ensnare!! I need you to win so you can save my Liquibet >_<
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neither of these players like scvs it seems.
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Hilarious game
Lyn with 2 SCVs left...
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On May 11 2011 20:10 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:01 VashTS wrote:
I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz."
Kelly is a great caster and a wonderful person. i cannot belive how some people actually get annoyed by her voice, you have to be completley out of touch with your natural "being" to dislike the beautiful voice of a young woman. The more exotic accent, the better.
Sounds like a personal preference to me.
Actually, coming from you, sounds a bit like worship, or something creepy. are you serious? i only said i think she is quite a nice girl with a refreshing accent. how does that sound like worshop? and of course its a personal preference. but how can you not like a cute girl with a funny accent and good knowledge about starcraft 2? your post makes no sense. Why would you dislike a person like Kelly? unless you are a bitter person.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike anyone, as it's all personal. The fact that she's a girl doesn't make any difference as to how her casting should be judged. I think she's got good game knowledge, and nice humour, but I don't like her accent. That's no biggie though, I don't hate her for it. It's the same as DjWheat, I don't like his voice either (sue me).
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Lyn gets supply blocked before banshees *facepalm*.
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Lyn vs Ensnare : Game 1 beginning on Terminus SE
Lyn spawning at 12, Ensnare at 3
Both players grabbing a fast gas, so you can probably expect banshees
Ensnare marginally ahead on his factory and that carries over to the starport as well
Both sticking on 1 gas so no cloak.
This is almost a perfect mirror, both going marine/hellion banshee.
Ensnare making a small error and lining up his marines in front of Lyn's hellion.
This is crazy, both are wrecking the other guys main because they have nothing to deal with a banshee. Lyn was supply blocked so unable to build a viking or anything.
Lyn down to 1 SCV lol, Ensnare at 12.
Ensnare expanding, Lyn with no money to do much of anything
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Did Ensnare announce that Banshee as his hero-unit? Could be in the DayJ-daily
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Moletrap: "Depot goes up, Depot goes down...you can't explain that"
Holy shit that made me chuckle
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I'd think ensnare's banshee paid for itself D:
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Can both lose and go to code a? That was painful to watch ^^
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On May 11 2011 20:14 Asha` wrote:Lyn vs Ensnare : Game 1 beginning on Terminus SELyn spawning at 12, Ensnare at 3 Both players grabbing a fast gas, so you can probably expect banshees Ensnare marginally ahead on his factory and that carries over to the starport as well Both sticking on 1 gas so no cloak. This is almost a perfect mirror, both going marine/hellion banshee. Ensnare making a small error and lining up his marines in front of Lyn's hellion. This is crazy, both are wrecking the other guys main because they have nothing to deal with a banshee. Lyn was supply blocked so unable to build a viking or anything. Lyn down to 1 SCV lol, Ensnare at 12. Ensnare expanding, Lyn with no money to do much of anything
Ensnare is back with another banshee, for some reason Lyn has parked his viking out in the middle of nowhere hoping to catch it on the way in, instead it comes in from the back and kills all but 2 scv's before Lyn's vikings get back.
Lyn realises he's deader than dead, and GG's
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On May 11 2011 20:15 Amiralen wrote:Moletrap: "Depot goes up, Depot goes down...you can't explain that" Holy shit that made me chuckle
Never a misscomunication.
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This game was absolutely nuts. Never seen anything like it. Lmfao xD
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On May 11 2011 20:10 quiet noise wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:01 VashTS wrote:
I said this last season.. I didn't like her much, but at least we could enjoy poking fun at how she says things, like "racecar" and "bruu frame herrionz."
Kelly is a great caster and a wonderful person. i cannot belive how some people actually get annoyed by her voice, you have to be completley out of touch with your natural "being" to dislike the beautiful voice of a young woman. The more exotic accent, the better.
Sounds like a personal preference to me.
Actually, coming from you, sounds a bit like worship, or something creepy. are you serious? i only said i think she is quite a nice girl with a refreshing accent. how does that sound like worshop? and of course its a personal preference. but how can you not like a cute girl with a funny accent and good knowledge about starcraft 2? your post makes no sense. Why would you dislike a person like Kelly? unless you are a bitter person.
Sure. =/
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oh man moletrap is on fire today, the Tasteless of code A with slightly better jokes :D
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Casters missed a big deciding factor in the game. Lyn got supplyblocked at 42 right after first banshee got completed and hadnt even started a depot when Ensnares banshee rolled into his base. Thats why he had to trry to bust up the ramp so he dropped in supply and could actually start making a viking to deal with the banshee
Supply kinda important
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Fish in a bucket with only fish in it
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It would have been better for Jinro to end up in this group. -_-
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On May 11 2011 20:14 Doctorbeat wrote:
There are plenty of reasons to dislike anyone, as it's all personal. The fact that she's a girl doesn't make any difference as to how her casting should be judged. I think she's got good game knowledge, and nice humour, but I don't like her accent. That's no biggie though, I don't hate her for it. It's the same as DjWheat, I don't like his voice either (sue me).
Of course you can dislike her for any reason, but accusing me of being a "creepy worshipper" for liking her as a person is stupid.
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Inb4 Lyn supply blocks himself again before 50 supply.
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Poll: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Ensnare (Game 1)?Yes (6) 40% If you have time (5) 33% No (4) 27% 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Ensnare (Game 1)? (Vote): Yes
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On May 11 2011 20:17 nihlon wrote:
It would have been better for Jinro to end up in this group. -_-
Bomber had the pick for his group, and I don't think he would pick Jinro. Lyn/Ensnare aren't top tier terrans, so those were easy picks for Bomber.
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On May 11 2011 20:18 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:17 nihlon wrote:
It would have been better for Jinro to end up in this group. -_- Bomber had the pick for his group, and I don't think he would pick Jinro. Lyn/Ensnare aren't top tier terrans, so those were easy picks for Bomber.
Neither is Jinro nowdays (im sorry).
I would pick Jinro because he is so predictable.
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Lyn vs Ensnare : Game 2 beginning on Crossfire SE
Lyn spawning in the North, Ensnare in the South.
Moletrap regails us with tales of his misspent youth in Jazz band. Doa struggling not to die of laughter.
Both players going for a tech build again, but Lyn is proxying a factory while Ensnare builds his in his base.
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The sad thing is that one of these two players will be Code S next season still
But I guess it'll always be that way since the code A winner chooses hw two worst Code S players obviously :/
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On May 11 2011 20:17 nihlon wrote:
It would have been better for Jinro to end up in this group. -_-
It's not like any of those 2 are a freewin, probably both aren't worse than Zenio.
Stop judging the skill of players based on one game...
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Lyn going broo frame herrions.
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On May 11 2011 20:20 Vorenius wrote:The sad thing is that one of these two players will be Code S next season still But I guess it'll always be that way since the code A winner chooses hw two worst Code S players obviously :/
People said the same about San and then he beasted it up in the next season.
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This just in:
Blue Flame Hellions have feet!
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On May 11 2011 20:19 Asha` wrote:Lyn vs Ensnare : Game 2 beginning on Crossfire SELyn spawning in the North, Ensnare in the South. Moletrap regails us with tales of his misspent youth in Jazz band. Doa struggling not to die of laughter. Both players going for a tech build again, but Lyn is proxying a factory while Ensnare builds his in his base.
Ensnare going for banshees again, rather interestingly Lyn is trying to proxy a whole blueflame hellion drop o_O
Ensnare with some good scouting finds it.
Lyn realises he's in trouble after that and decides to just all in with marines, scv's, blueflame hellions, and 1 medivac
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I feel bad for lyn in this game
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This was idiotic.
What the fuck was he doing? I don't understand that at all.
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Lyns all-in fails faster then you can say code a.
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Did doa not realize that there were 2 tanks at the start of the battle?
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Another 20 kill banshee incoming
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Ensnare and Lyn... wow really?
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lol ensnare's banshees <3
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LYN Y U NO GET ENGINEERING BAY
I can't believe so many pros have lost just trying to avoid the ebay!
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Poll: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Ensnare (Game 2)?No (18) 82% Yes (3) 14% If you have time (1) 5% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser of Match 1 vs Ensnare (Game 2)? (Vote): Yes
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Apparently Lyn fears banshees
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On May 11 2011 20:22 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:19 Asha` wrote:Lyn vs Ensnare : Game 2 beginning on Crossfire SELyn spawning in the North, Ensnare in the South. Moletrap regails us with tales of his misspent youth in Jazz band. Doa struggling not to die of laughter. Both players going for a tech build again, but Lyn is proxying a factory while Ensnare builds his in his base. Ensnare going for banshees again, rather interestingly Lyn is trying to proxy a whole blueflame hellion drop o_O Ensnare with some good scouting finds it. Lyn realises he's in trouble after that and decides to just all in with marines, scv's, blueflame hellions, and 1 medivac
Lyn actually kills enough SCV's that he's ahead in worker counter, tanks do mop up the blueflame hellions though.
Ensnare just runs his banshee down to Lyn's base to exact retribution, Lyn has no anti air, all his scv's are dying.
Lyn gg's, makes a sad face.
Ensnare remains in Code S!
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How to beat Lyn 101: Make a banshee
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lol Lyn...doesnt even bother to run the SCVs away. then again he already lost by that point.
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Wow man... Did Group H just troll us? What was that, two 5-minute games?
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lol "Guess he's not Code S"
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On May 11 2011 20:20 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:20 Vorenius wrote:The sad thing is that one of these two players will be Code S next season still But I guess it'll always be that way since the code A winner chooses hw two worst Code S players obviously :/ People said the same about San and then he beasted it up in the next season.
To expand on the nested quote:
Build banshee. Get into Code S
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On May 11 2011 20:23 andaylin wrote:
lol ensnare's banshees <3
nothing special about those banshees lol
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Obviously Banshees are going to haunt him forever.
Interstingly, why did he not use the Blueflames to kill all the scvs, that were repairing the tanks. He saw the Banshee.
Seems like Banshees are imbalanced in TvT
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what an awful all in again.
Lyn really not deserving to move up to code S with that kind of performance.
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Why does my favourite player always have to break my heart?
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Rainbow never fell to Code A.
Man... frustrating day listening to them today. I honestly wish the commentators could make sure they get their facts correct sometimes.
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On May 11 2011 20:24 TooN wrote:
How to beat Lyn 101: Make a banshee
If Bomber only would have known ^^
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On May 11 2011 20:23 pdd wrote:
Did doa not realize that there were 2 tanks at the start of the battle?
Will need to rewatch the Vods, I thought he said "the tank surround" as the SCV's went to mass repair them. Maybe he said "the tanks are out", but that would seem odd.
A mostly satisfying day of games results wise for me I guess.
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Just realised that the poor guys from SlayerS were the only players not to make it up to Code S this season
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Lyn needs to learn to fight banshee. 2 games lost to banshee is ridiculously embarrassing.
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Glad to see Bomber replacing Lyn in code S.
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On May 11 2011 20:25 Maenander wrote:nothing special about those banshees lol
The special thing was rather Lyn's terrible responses to those banshees xP really botching the series
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Sorry Moletrap, if you actually did some research, you should know the first one who fell to coda A and got back to code S was Rain, not Mvp.
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On May 11 2011 20:24 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:20 Vimsey wrote:On May 11 2011 20:20 Vorenius wrote:The sad thing is that one of these two players will be Code S next season still But I guess it'll always be that way since the code A winner chooses hw two worst Code S players obviously :/ People said the same about San and then he beasted it up in the next season. To expand on the nested quote: Build banshee. Get into Code S
I liked the way Ensnare sportingly left the banshee hovering near lyns base during the initial fight to give him a sporting chance and he still died horribly to it.
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On May 11 2011 20:25 pdd wrote:
Rainbow never fell to Code A.
Man... frustrating day listening to them today. I honestly wish the commentators could make sure they get their facts correct sometimes.
You are too generous. I wish these guys could get their fats correct. Period.
It's a shame.. They can do so much better but it's almost like they are doing it halfhearted on purpose.
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On May 11 2011 20:26 brachester wrote:
Sorry Moletrap, if you actually did some research, you should know the first one who fell to coda A and got back to code S was Rain, not Mvp.
... what? MVP fell to code A, and is now back in code S. LOL
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Kinda sad that Lyn played like that against Ensnare. He could probably have won a standard game against him.
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On May 11 2011 20:25 Maenander wrote:nothing special about those banshees lol
lol except that they dropped Lyn down to Code A
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On May 11 2011 20:27 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:25 pdd wrote:
Rainbow never fell to Code A.
Man... frustrating day listening to them today. I honestly wish the commentators could make sure they get their facts correct sometimes. You are too generous. I wish these guys could get their fats correct. Period. It's a shame.. They can do so much better but it's almost like they are doing it halfhearted on purpose.
It's sad because Moletrap actually did a lot of good work with researching stuff at the beginning of his stint, but since then he's gotten bad at it.
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On May 11 2011 20:27 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:26 brachester wrote:
Sorry Moletrap, if you actually did some research, you should know the first one who fell to coda A and got back to code S was Rain, not Mvp. ... what? MVP fell to code A, and is not back in code S. LOL
Did you miss his game against Rain or something?
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On May 11 2011 20:30 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:27 andaylin wrote:On May 11 2011 20:26 brachester wrote:
Sorry Moletrap, if you actually did some research, you should know the first one who fell to coda A and got back to code S was Rain, not Mvp. ... what? MVP fell to code A, and is not back in code S. LOL Did you miss his game against Rain or something?
oops sorry, i meant now**
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On May 11 2011 20:26 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:23 pdd wrote:
Did doa not realize that there were 2 tanks at the start of the battle? Will need to rewatch the Vods, I thought he said "the tank surround" as the SCV's went to mass repair them. Maybe he said "the tanks are out", but that would seem odd. A mostly satisfying day of games results wise for me I guess. === Just realised that the poor guys from SlayerS were the only players not to make it up to Code S this season
Im pretty sure he said tanks are out but your mouth says things you dont want to say sometimes like when they say the wrong units.
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On May 11 2011 20:30 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:27 andaylin wrote:On May 11 2011 20:26 brachester wrote:
Sorry Moletrap, if you actually did some research, you should know the first one who fell to coda A and got back to code S was Rain, not Mvp. ... what? MVP fell to code A, and is not back in code S. LOL Did you miss his game against Rain or something?
I think the original poster made a typo.
Moletrap mis-states that Rainbow dropped to Code A and is back in Code S. It was Rain who did that.
Original poster probably just said MVP by mistake when he meant Rainbow.
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On May 11 2011 20:31 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:26 Asha` wrote:On May 11 2011 20:23 pdd wrote:
Did doa not realize that there were 2 tanks at the start of the battle? Will need to rewatch the Vods, I thought he said "the tank surround" as the SCV's went to mass repair them. Maybe he said "the tanks are out", but that would seem odd. A mostly satisfying day of games results wise for me I guess. === Just realised that the poor guys from SlayerS were the only players not to make it up to Code S this season Im pretty sure he said tanks are out but your mouth says things you dont want to say sometimes like when they say the wrong units.
Doa was just pretty bad at observing the action. He should definitely pay more attention to his screen that Moletrap's (or Moletrap's face for that matter). I'm usually not the least bothered, but today I noticed three HUGE errors, and I don't know why I'm so frustrated with it today.
In MKP vs MMA on Xelnaga Fortress, MKP kills an MMA marine positioned to scout and a couple of minutes earlier they had been talking about how MMA likes to position his marines across the map. Arguably the obs only moves there for awhile, but there's the sound of a marine dying and Doa assumes it's a neutral unit. In fact, are there even neutral units on XNF?
In Bomber vs Lyn game on Crevasse I believe, Lyn had a marine at the 3 oclock XNT and Bomber comes up to flank Lyn's natural. Observer clear shows Bomber killing the marine and Doa still goes on saying how Lyn doesn't know about it.
And then in the Ensnare Lyn game, Moletrap even talks about the tanks being out during the battle and Doa makes it sound like he just noticed it after the battle had subsided.
It's just quite frustrating... I feel like rather than wasting time trying to be funny (I think he tries too hard).. he should pay a lot more attention to what's going on on the screen and telling it like it is.
EDIT: I should say though that I mean nothing harsh and I appreciate the work they've done. But they should know that they're being paid by GOM to be responsible to viewers. Particularly those who might not be as alert to things or are watching on the SQ stream where you can't really tell what's going on.
This includes getting facts right, not missing the action, and correctly analyzing strategies and builds
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Just wondering. Why is this thread so short?
Did not watch the games, stream down?
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On May 11 2011 20:42 hydraden wrote:
Just wondering. Why is this thread so short?
Did not watch the games, stream down?
Probably because no one wanted to watch it as the only two players worth watching were MVP and Bomber and they were playing in groups where they were expected to crush their opponents easily. If it weren't because I have nothing better to do at this time, I wouldn't have watched it either. And also because there was another session earlier today which was scheduled at a more convenient time for the US/European viewers (that one went up to 100+ pages).
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Just wanted to add something... loads of <3 to Asha` for the LR, one of the best so far.
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On May 11 2011 20:42 hydraden wrote:
Just wondering. Why is this thread so short?
Did not watch the games, stream down?
No one wants to watch 4 BO3 TvT's in a row. I just came back to see the results.
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On May 11 2011 21:17 GxZ wrote:
Ensnare stepped up...
Lyn losing 40 scvs to 2 banshees helped
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On May 11 2011 20:49 Bliznako wrote:
Just wanted to add something... loads of <3 to Asha` for the LR, one of the best so far.
Aye!
Much love. Greatly appreciated.
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Noooooo. Why did Rain make it into Code S again?
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On May 11 2011 21:48 Acrofales wrote:Noooooo. Why did Rain make it into Code S again?
Rainbow is terrible.
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It seems that rainbow really does not want to compete anymore.
He lost almost every matches recently, looks like he stopped training.
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Also, Rain is better than you all want to admit. His play vs Mvp was pretty strong.
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On May 11 2011 22:19 AxionSteel wrote:
Also, Rain is better than you all want to admit. His play vs Mvp was pretty strong.
Agreed, anyone who watched the games vs MVP would have no doubt the guy deserves to be in code S, certainly more than some of the current code S players.
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On May 11 2011 23:31 Wargizmo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 22:19 AxionSteel wrote:
Also, Rain is better than you all want to admit. His play vs Mvp was pretty strong. Agreed, anyone who watched the games vs MVP would have no doubt the guy deserves to be in code S, certainly more than some of the current code S players.
People hate Rain, fullstop. Rain's not that bad tbh. In fact, he almost beat InCa. I find it hard to believe Rainbow lost so bad though :S
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On May 11 2011 23:34 frucisky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 23:31 Wargizmo wrote:On May 11 2011 22:19 AxionSteel wrote:
Also, Rain is better than you all want to admit. His play vs Mvp was pretty strong. Agreed, anyone who watched the games vs MVP would have no doubt the guy deserves to be in code S, certainly more than some of the current code S players. People hate Rain, fullstop. Rain's not that bad tbh. In fact, he almost beat InCa. I find it hard to believe Rainbow lost so bad though :S
People hate Rain because the play he displayed today was far outside of his norm. If he played like this all the time, people would hardly even make a note of him.
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Did i just hear DoA make a dr horrible reference!?
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On May 11 2011 19:35 hagrin wrote:
Man, the Korean commentators during that 5th set of sC and Nestea were just incredible. Wow, what a game.
I can't find them showing the "best hot match" in the VODs. I'm looking at end of group G and before group H. Anyone know if it's there and where to look? I'd rather watch that than the actual games, since other than MvP and Bomber, I don't really care >.>
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MVP and Bomber making it through :D
Kind of surprised Rainbow got 2-0'd by Rain, but then again MMA also got 2-0'd by HuK. Better luck next time I guess.
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On May 11 2011 20:20 Vimsey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 20:20 Vorenius wrote:The sad thing is that one of these two players will be Code S next season still But I guess it'll always be that way since the code A winner chooses hw two worst Code S players obviously :/ People said the same about San and then he beasted it up in the next season.
The people who said that were just jumping on the Tastosis Bandwagon
San was never as bad as people made him out to be, even before he 'beasted' it up he was undefeated in PvT series, and his PvZ was untested. Almost all of his losses were from embarassing PvPs (which he is still really bad at), and he had that one cannon blocking incident which anypro did the same thing. Afterall, it is just one mistake that cost him a game, and everyone makes mistakes sometimes. San got sooooooooooo much more credit than he deserved because, his route to Ro4 was so incredibly soft it wasn't even funny, the only good players he faced admitted to heavily underestimating him which they atribute for their losses (sC and NesTea). And guess what? Now he's out of Code S.
tl;dr San was never as bad as people for some reason thought he was, and he's no where near as good as people think he is now.
The most overrated and underrated player in the GSL
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Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world.
Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? 
I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/
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On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/
Screw up in the preliminaries and you're gone
Screw up in earlier rounds and you're gone
Screw up in the semifinal and you're gone
this works for any tournament....
Just look at it this way, Code A and S are one tournament, the Code S players are automaticaly seeded into the Ro32 and Code A is Ro64. If you don't win you don't move on in the tournament, why would this be any different.
Sure it may seems sad when a person gets knocked out of Code A... but it's the exact same as someone getting knocked out of a tournament (GSL Opens for example) in the first round.. you have to requalify.
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Rainbow =(((((((((( how far you've fallen
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On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/
Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese.
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I seem to be one of the few not surprised that Rain handled Rainbow 2-0. His TvZ and TvP may be lackluster, but the guy is at least competent at TvT if you've actually seen his games before.
On another note, is this the shortest LR thread for the GSL ever?
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the results met my predictions, i'm satisfied.
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Mvp and Bomber made it through. All I wanted.
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Lyn played so bad today ... makes me sad
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Ouch, Lyn. Gotta step up your game, bro. =/
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United States7116 Posts
Awww, I really wanted Lyn to make it He seems like such a nice guy and he was so happy when he won his first match last season - it was pretty touching. Hope he does well in code A!
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I was very impressed with Rain on the xelnaga game against MVP.
Looking forward to game 2. ^_^
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Lyn
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what is going on with Rainbow? for a starcraft 1 pro who was around for a long time he is astoundingly bad lately. I wonder if he is still training much/still has his heart in it.
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United States97275 Posts
On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/ Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese.
Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it.
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On May 12 2011 05:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/ Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese. Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it.
Amazing that a professional gamer, who practices hours upon hours a day, can win or play well in a standard game. *gasp*
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On May 11 2011 18:53 zerious wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:51 Doctorbeat wrote:
I'm scared for my LB now... I bet on Rainbow. Rain seems to be really solid today against MVP. Rain is very good TvT, his TvZ is terrible though lol
He knocked out Nestea. He is just all over the place.
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noooooooooo rainbow
i like the guy he was finalist in season 1 and semifinalist season 2, and now he's just faded into oblivion. it makes me so sad that he lost to rain. the same loser that handed over a victory to Inca, despite having decimated inca's entire army, most of inca's base, and having a A VASTLY LARGER ARMY AND MULTIPLE SCANS SAVED UP, to a force of one stalker and one dt. sigh.
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On May 12 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 05:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/ Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese. Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it. Amazing that a professional gamer, who practices hours upon hours a day, can win or play well in a standard game. *gasp*
I'm sure bitbybit lived in the prime house.
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On May 11 2011 19:17 cynical wrote:I thought I heard the same thing...
Oh no he didn't. No one should be hating on Banshees >.>.
I'm glad Rain won. While some may hate Rain for cheese, I liked his story (he always wanted to be a pro gamer when he was young). Well okay that's kind of generic "story" and probably fits a lot of the younger players but still since we got to see the interview with his mom and his story, I can't help but cheer him on.
Plus he seems to be a good mannered player (never really BMs) and he even apologized for cheesing (I think cheese is fine. It's not against the rules and he should do whatever it takes to win [lots of money is on the line >.>]. It's up to Blizzard to balance cheese).
Sad and disappointed that in the yesterday's game + Show Spoiler +"oh so man"[you know he's so man when he had trouble opening a can of coke >.>] (AKA HoSeo San) lost though . In an interview San said he did so well during previous 2 GSLs because he was playing for fun instead of playing to win (that is his mentality was just to have a good game). I wonder if the nerves and pressure to win got to San .
Also I actually don't like the tournament format of the GSL (that is, if a player loses just one match, they're knocked out).
I think they should do more of a league where every players gets to play against all (or at least against half) the opponents (similar to the NASL) then once everyone plays each other, progressively remove the players with the lowest scores and continue with players playing each other until there are only 2 players left (then there's the finals).
This will be a better test of "overall skill" IMO because good players won't be able to get knocked out so early just because of one bad match. Though not that I'm saying Rain is bad (again I'm cheering for him) but because I really think the current tournament format doesn't do well to show a test of skill (too easy to get knocked out).
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On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch.
taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.
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United States3483 Posts
On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch. taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak.
But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.
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On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch. taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak. But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.
I agree. The day we accept cheese, is the day esports can grow
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On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch. taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak. But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch.
Jinro has not done anything exciting for a long time. Mkp yes he's very exciting but it's mostly due to a unique style.
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I like watching Mvp play, personally. It's kind of akin to watching a masterpiece unfold.
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United States3483 Posts
Because a topic about the finals hasn't been made yet, I think i'll talk about the finals here.
I just realized now that Inca actually hasn't lost a single game since the Ro16 started. The only game he's actually lost this season was once against Rain in the group Stages.
Shame, he was so close to a perfect season. Admittedly, it's not unheard of to 2-0 Virus and 3-0 Killer. It's amazing he was able to 3-0 Nada, but then again, Nada is his teammate.
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On May 12 2011 09:39 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 09:36 dabom88 wrote:On May 12 2011 09:32 oneofthem wrote:On May 11 2011 18:28 quiet noise wrote:
i hate MVP. He is soo frickin amazingly good, but at the same time kinda lame to watch because he does nothing exciting or "risky" (like MC). just super solid macro, perfect strategy and flawless mechanics. Good, but kinda lame. You can tell that he is winning from the begining as he gains a huge supply/army advantage and then he attacks when he knows he will be able to break through, so it never gets "exciting" to watch. taking a risk with negative expected outcome AND no superior strategic anticipation, is not exciting or skillful. it's cowardly and weak. But then again, exciting play is what makes Jinro and MarineKing so enjoyable to watch. I agree. The day we accept cheese, is the day esports can grow
We all love a good executed cheese once and awhile, it whats gets you really pumped up and excited wondering if its going to succeed or are we going to see a glorious fail. We just don't want to see cheese for 90% of someones play. Love to see MC cheese because he rarely does it. He usually plays standard and might cheese once in a bo5/bo7 which is the kind of stuff we need.
Unlike Inca vs Nada, 3 games of cheese to knock out a fan favorite.
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Unlike Inca vs Nada, 3 games of cheese to knock out a fan favorite.
Did you watch Game 3? Sure, he was going to cheese, but he beat NaDa in a straight up match when that attempt failed.
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On May 12 2011 09:21 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:On May 12 2011 05:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 12 2011 01:25 zerious wrote:On May 12 2011 01:16 ChApFoU wrote:Rainbow you SUCK ! I would have forgave you if you were up against any other opponent in the world. Will we ever get rid of Rain one day ? I can't believe this guy is still in code S for another season while other very good players have to struggle in code A. This up and down system is pretty cruel. Screw up a few games because of pressure/cheese and goodbye :/ Why you mad, bro? Rain didn't even cheese. Yeah, it was amazing. Rain played legitimate games against Rainbow and MVP. He didn't even look that bad doing it. Amazing that a professional gamer, who practices hours upon hours a day, can win or play well in a standard game. *gasp* I'm sure bitbybit lived in the prime house.
He actually didn't. Prime has like 100 members and only 8 in the team house.
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Noo Rainbow in Code A
Wait a second, Rain vs MVP games were good? That's a bit surprising considering what may seem like a huge skill difference (and playstyle difference).
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On May 12 2011 13:30 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Noo Rainbow in Code A Wait a second, Rain vs MVP games were good? That's a bit surprising considering what may seem like a huge skill difference (and playstyle difference).
Watch the first one. The second one, not so much.
Watch the first game of Bomber vs. Lyn too.
None of the rest of the games were worth watching. They all lasted <10 minutes.
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