[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season V League - Page 258

On July 03 2011 08:37 Talin wrote:


Also for all those people who thought he was somehow a top player (even by foreign standards).

On July 03 2011 09:45 ImHuko wrote:
Play to win is more like play to abuse when you are against zerg.

That strategy is so easy to pull off, because you can keep saving up minerals and spend them all at once after Nexus cancel with 4 warpgates. You can't scout it when they wait that long.

On July 03 2011 09:47 iNcontroL wrote:
sen coulda scouted that a lot better (ling in front of base instead of at tower) Also Sen was on 3 base / pure drone with 0 ling as a base... REALLY greedy.

On July 03 2011 09:48 Azarkon wrote:
Minigun has some great builds vs. Zerg, but I feel like Sen played just a bit greedy in these last two games. Given how fast a Protoss can transition from expo to 4-5 gate, you really aren't "safe" as Zerg until the nexus has been completed.

On July 03 2011 09:48 TomSlick wrote:
nice watching some average nobody NA Toss beat one of the best Zergs in the world with abuse.

On July 03 2011 09:49 Zeroxk wrote:


Sen didn't have any lings in front of Minigun's base, that would've been about 5 seconds extra of reaction time and towards the completion of the nexus you can try saving larva, just one injection round can make all the difference

On July 03 2011 09:52 MonsieurGrimm wrote:

eh, protoss can cancel and attack at any point during the 100 seconds it takes for nexus to build, and saving larvae for 100 seconds isn't really that appealing

On July 03 2011 09:53 ImHuko wrote:

Not to mention Minigun can easily get rid of a zergling infront of his base, I don't get how a ling will help, a smart protoss will just get rid of it before moving out, and in that case, Sen will have the same reaction time when he falls back to the watch tower.

On July 03 2011 09:50 ImHuko wrote:

Safe zerg is behind zerg though. If you prepare for nexus cancel allin, you will fall behind if they don't do it.

On July 03 2011 09:57 Azarkon wrote:


In this situation, not really. If Protoss did a fast nexus, then yeah, you have to match his econ, but Minigun chrono boosted out a zealot, a stalker, and some sentries for a failed initial attack. He was way behind on economy and Sen was getting his third up before Minigun had completed his second. If Minigun transitioned into a macro game at that point, he'd be way behind. His choice to all-in was the right one and Sen should've known it was coming before the force was half-way to his base.

On July 03 2011 09:57 Azarkon wrote:


In this situation, not really. If Protoss did a fast nexus, then yeah, you have to match his econ, but Minigun chrono boosted out a zealot, a stalker, and some sentries for a failed initial attack. He was way behind on economy and Sen was getting his third up before Minigun had completed his second. If Minigun transitioned into a macro game at that point, he'd be way behind. His choice to all-in was the right one and Sen should've known it was coming before the force was half-way to his base.