EPT[R&S] EG's Master's Cup Series Season V League - Page 165
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Thugtronik
New Zealand452 Posts
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:50 Mordiford wrote: No, because that would mean that player skill is completely irrelevant, and it comes down to me picking A and you picking B = You win, me picking A you picking C = I win for a coin flip situation, there are elements of scouting where you have to guess, but these exist for every race and if they didn't it would have to be reflected in win rates because you suggest Protoss have a number of safe options, this would mean that Zerg players would have to outplay the Protoss near 100% of the time to achieve a 50% win rate, which is a stretch and then some. still, what are you supposed to do if you see a bunch of units headed at you? make units, but what if he isn't actually allin? there's no way to know what he intends to do, he could cancel the expo and go allin or let it finish and be ahead because you had to make all those units. I don't know how to describe that as anything but a guessing game p.s those banelings were beautiful O____O | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:44 Blasphemi wrote: Players like Nestea take ladder extremely seriously. Exactly. 1. Nestea has played off-race on ladder. Either he is dicking around or IM players share accounts with one another to hide their builds on ladder. 2. Nestea has said he plays worse on ladder to hide builds against GSL opponents. | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:51 xbankx wrote: I merely just listed all ability that removed micro from the game. No one said they had to be equally good or bad. Except lockdown added micro because if you saw the other terran going ghosts you could counter with medics which were cheaper, faster to make and a lower focus priority. Stasis was countered by preparing for the wear-off and engaging immediately after. I'm simply stating your statements are wrong, to bring them up is simply stupid if you don't know how they work. That's why I'm not commenting on the balance of Fungal/Forcefield because I don't know all of their intricacies yet. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:54 MonsieurGrimm wrote: still, what are you supposed to do if you see a bunch of units headed at you? make units, but what if he isn't actually allin? there's no way to know what he intends to do, he could cancel the expo and go allin or let it finish and be ahead because you had to make all those units. I don't know how to describe that as anything but a guessing game You can be extra safe and win if he all-ins, be slightly behind if he doesn't. You can make just enough units to survive the initial attack and make units continuously to hold it off, with good control. Or you can make very few units, risk losing to the all-in or getting ahead if he doesn't attack. IdrA chose option L,M,N,O,P... Make a ton of units, attack the pressure, sees the expansion, semi-all ins with poor control and overcommits(He actually ran all the way around a couple of forcefields to get crushed continuing to attack instead of pulling out), then he's waaay behind. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
Edit: Looks like Minigun won and Kiwikaki won as well. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:31 Serpico wrote: You're arguing a point no one has contested in the first place. Dont know where that came from No kidding. There's not a single zerg on the planet at the same level as Nestea. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if IdrA himself was willing to admit that. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:56 JKira wrote: Exactly. 1. Nestea has played off-race on ladder. Either he is dicking around or IM players share accounts with one another to hide their builds on ladder. 2. Nestea has said he plays worse on ladder to hide builds against GSL opponents. A guy like Nestea can just practice versus any top Z/P/T any time he likes, he has no purpose for ladder at all other than to dick about. There's not a player in Korea who wouldn't want to practice versus the best Zerg in the world. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
GG Drewbie. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Zergs forget what backstabbing is some days. Its not a coinflip its a stagnant idea of playstyle where without 80 drones you lose. Without 80 drones immediately you lose. You can play differently. You can say, not go banelings and use zerglings to drain sentry energy by attacking from multiple directions at once. Theres a lot of ways to play and I hear this BM about coin flips when Zerg plays passively and lets protoss attack. Its a long long trip from the Nexus to the Hatch. Make it last for them. | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:57 dizzy101 wrote: Score so far? 2-0 for root and drewbie is up 1-0 against strifeco | ||
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JKira
Canada1002 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:47 TT1 wrote: gogo root, its puzzling how they're still not getting any sponsorship support yet.. theyre doing so well in individual/clanleagues and have a huge fanbase compared to the majority of other teams makes me really sad =/ Wait, I thought they got a bunch of sponsors that were announced around MLG Dallas? Or am I mixing that up with one of the April Fools posts? I know there was one about them being sponsored by Root Beer, but I thought there was an actual legit thread. | ||
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AndreiDaGiant
United States394 Posts
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:59 JKira wrote: Wait, I thought they got a bunch of sponsors that were announced around MLG Dallas? Or am I mixing that up with one of the April Fools posts? I know there was one about them being sponsored by Root Beer, but I thought there was an actual legit thread. Yeah they did. They got pokerstars, justin.tv, and IGN. Or at least thats what is on their site for sponsors. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:59 JKira wrote: Wait, I thought they got a bunch of sponsors that were announced around MLG Dallas? Or am I mixing that up with one of the April Fools posts? I know there was one about them being sponsored by Root Beer, but I thought there was an actual legit thread. Justin.tv, IGN and Pokerstars sponsored them (though pokerstars is currently in some legal trouble), also Kiwikaki got a personal Sponsor in Dr Pepper for MLG Events. | ||
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xbankx
703 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:56 d(O.o)a wrote: Except lockdown added micro because if you saw the other terran going ghosts you could counter with medics which were cheaper, faster to make and a lower focus priority. Stasis was countered by preparing for the wear-off and engaging immediately after. I'm simply stating your statements are wrong, to bring them up is simply stupid if you don't know how they work. That's why I'm not commenting on the balance of Fungal/Forcefield because I don't know all of their intricacies yet. Ok, who in which pro game countered ghost with medic. The only player that used medic for blind in a few games was Really from estro when he used medics against obs to make his mines better ie his game versus Janbi. Stasis are not countered by preparing for wearoff. Stasis is countered by emp+ or slow spread out push. I really don't like people talking out of their ass about BW shit they don't understand. Stasis does remove micro so don't try to reason that. Also just because you can fight it with emp doesn't mean it doesn't stop micro. Just as you can feign with roaches to force preemptive ff. | ||
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