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Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
May 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#521
DT play was very smart, but the only reason it worked so well is DF was stupid.

Sweet game overall though!
iuvenalis
Profile Joined November 2007
Poland88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 02:06:46
May 06 2011 02:05 GMT
#522
NASL has pauvrement production, worth like 100$, it looks quite poor and I don't like to sound harsh, seriously.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#523
On May 06 2011 11:03 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:02 loveeholicce wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:00 taintmachine wrote:
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


dt cheese? you are fucking retarded.


Come on man, how wasn't it cheese? the patented 20 minute DT rush has been running rampant lately


Only Cheese that is worse is the dreaded 22 minute Broodlord cheese.


Don't forget about the 4-base, 26 minute, mass BC/banshee cheese. I hate that shit, completely indefensible.

(iNc talking a little shit about a delayed gl hf???)
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#524
sneaky probe is sneaky, 4 GATE!!! DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!
No Artosis, you are robin
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#525
On May 06 2011 11 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


DT cheese? WTF? That is strategy.
Eliminate detection then using cloaked units is a strategy, used in this real time strategy game

Mechanically behind? If the zerg doesn't have more units than the toss it is the zerg who's mechanics are lacking, not the other way around.

I don't even......


Yeah, the classic get 70 supply behind your opponent, snipe all detection and then spam DT's build. Smart strategy from Inc. No idea why I've never seen MC try it.
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#526
On May 06 2011 11:02 loveeholicce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:00 taintmachine wrote:
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


dt cheese? you are fucking retarded.


Come on man, how wasn't it cheese? the patented 20 minute DT rush has been running rampant lately


no he sniped lair and evo chambers and made a good decision that really should have won him the game
Euclid
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada126 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#527
On May 06 2011 11:03 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


DT cheese? WTF? That is strategy.
Eliminate detection then using cloaked units is a strategy, used in this real time strategy game

Mechanically behind? If the zerg doesn't have more units than the toss it is the zerg who's mechanics are lacking, not the other way around.

I don't even......


Zerg should be ahead somewhat im supply but incontrol literally had liek 135-140 when darkforce maxed there. If you think incontrol was on top of his mechanics you are wrong.

Also saying DT is cheese is pretty damn stupid, it was a good strategy.
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
May 06 2011 02:06 GMT
#528
How can anyone call 20 minute DTs cheesy or gimmicky? If DTs at that point are cheese, when are they not cheese?
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-06 02:07:26
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#529
On May 06 2011 11:03 Unnamed Player wrote:
Incontrol without his gimmicks (DT's) is just average compared to top players.

Love seeing balanced players beating cheesey or gimmicky players.

Restores some of my faith in SC2.


What's with the new influx of bronzies on TL?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#530
On May 06 2011 11:05 Unnamed Player wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:04 TheHova wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:03 Unnamed Player wrote:
Incontrol without his gimmicks (DT's) is just average compared to top players.

Love seeing balanced players beating cheesey or gimmicky players.

Restores some of my faith in SC2.


Are you kidding me... It was just great decision making. How the hell can you call it cheese... I don't even...


I didn't call it cheese.


I'm sorry, 'gimmicky'. You're an idiot if you don't take advantage of the lack of ability to detect. It's pretty much standard for Protoss to get DT's late game anyway.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#531
is that a 4-gate?
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#532
it was!
Unnamed Player
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia89 Posts
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#533
On May 06 2011 11:05 rolfe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:03 Unnamed Player wrote:
Incontrol without his gimmicks (DT's) is just average compared to top players.

Love seeing balanced players beating cheesey or gimmicky players.

Restores some of my faith in SC2.

gimics? when a base trade situations looks like its happening DTs are pretty much standard, incontrol took out the capacity to detect and therefore went for cloaked units. they worked and did a lot of damage. it was an excellent decision


Not disputing that it was a good strategy.

However incontrol wins more games agaisnt GOOD players with gimmicky play, rather than balanced play.

I doubt there is a high rated toss that uses dt's more than him.

There is a reason for that.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 06 2011 02:07 GMT
#534
On May 06 2011 11:03 Unnamed Player wrote:
Incontrol without his gimmicks (DT's) is just average compared to top players.

Love seeing balanced players beating cheesey or gimmicky players.

Restores some of my faith in SC2.



you shut your dirty mouth! you shut it now! Incontrol is a great player with great game sense, the DT isnt cheesy or gimmicky when you go and kill his lair and snipe all forms of detection. In fact it was the BEST idea for that game

im jp with the dirty mouth part, im just a poor lil fan boy
No Artosis, you are robin
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
May 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#535
On May 06 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11 Kazang wrote:
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


DT cheese? WTF? That is strategy.
Eliminate detection then using cloaked units is a strategy, used in this real time strategy game

Mechanically behind? If the zerg doesn't have more units than the toss it is the zerg who's mechanics are lacking, not the other way around.

I don't even......


Yeah, the classic get 70 supply behind your opponent, snipe all detection and then spam DT's build. Smart strategy from Inc. No idea why I've never seen MC try it.

Can you please stop perpetuating this nonsense? A zerg will always max out well before a protoss if he goes hydra/roach.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#536
On May 06 2011 Swede wrote:
How can anyone call 20 minute DTs cheesy or gimmicky? If DTs at that point are cheese, when are they not cheese?


DT's are by design a pretty gimmicky unit.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
May 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#537
On May 06 2011 11:06 Swede wrote:
How can anyone call 20 minute DTs cheesy or gimmicky? If DTs at that point are cheese, when are they not cheese?


The second they are built it becomes cheese apparently. I think they are great to take advantage of a opponent not having any detection.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
May 06 2011 02:08 GMT
#538
On May 06 2011 11 08 city42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:06 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 11 Kazang wrote:
On May 06 2011 10:59 Blasphemi wrote:
On May 06 2011 10 Newguy wrote:
very strong play from incontrol, good decision making throughout the game, knowing darkforce had no corrupters his counterattack was extremely effective.


Inc was completely outplayed, his macro wasn't even close to Darkforce's. He got back in it because the Protoss ball is sick and he did some DT cheese. Mechanically he was so far behind Darkforce.


DT cheese? WTF? That is strategy.
Eliminate detection then using cloaked units is a strategy, used in this real time strategy game

Mechanically behind? If the zerg doesn't have more units than the toss it is the zerg who's mechanics are lacking, not the other way around.

I don't even......


Yeah, the classic get 70 supply behind your opponent, snipe all detection and then spam DT's build. Smart strategy from Inc. No idea why I've never seen MC try it.

Can you please stop perpetuating this nonsense? A zerg will always max out well before a protoss if he goes hydra/roach.

Yes, it's very standard for the Protoss to be 70 supply behind.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 06 2011 02:09 GMT
#539
On May 06 2011 11:07 Unnamed Player wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 11:05 rolfe wrote:
On May 06 2011 11:03 Unnamed Player wrote:
Incontrol without his gimmicks (DT's) is just average compared to top players.

Love seeing balanced players beating cheesey or gimmicky players.

Restores some of my faith in SC2.

gimics? when a base trade situations looks like its happening DTs are pretty much standard, incontrol took out the capacity to detect and therefore went for cloaked units. they worked and did a lot of damage. it was an excellent decision


Not disputing that it was a good strategy.

However incontrol wins more games agaisnt GOOD players with gimmicky play, rather than balanced play.

I doubt there is a high rated toss that uses dt's more than him.

There is a reason for that.

if you think it was a good strategy why did you use it as an example of gimicky play?
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
May 06 2011 02:09 GMT
#540
lets his expo finish or accident? Mind game or newbfest?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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