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On April 29 2011 04:20 hmunkey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 03:45 illsick wrote:
I feel like the korean terrans/zergs found a way to beat the protoss race, they are getting handled in code S and in code A. Not quite though; a lot of protosses knocked eachother out earlier and the ones left aren't really what people would consider to be the favorites anyways in their matchups. With a few exceptions (MC/Alicia), the tosses knocked out aren't really that amazing. And since a lot of hard-hitters in other races are out too (MVP/MKP) I don't think it's a really fair statement. That said, taking down protosses after their months of domination just looks so damn awesome as a spectator.
No tosses knocked each other out except for Bansbans vs. Brown and, to a lesser extent, Huk vs. InCa.
Edit: Hm, I you could definitely also argue that Tester/AnyPro and Genius/HongUn also count as tosses eliminating each other, but that's just group play - the only reason they were paired against each other was because one of them lost to a non-toss opponent before.
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It looks like the documentaries that are shown live are not present in the VOD's. I wanted to re-watch the ones they've done about Losira, but can't find them.
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On April 29 2011 03:23 Zannadar wrote:
Anyone know about where the lines from Tastosis are derived from?
"Leave it to me"
"Noone leaves here aliiiiive"
It cracks me up big time when I hear them talking like that but I have no idea where those are from?
During the Season 5 San vs. sC series there was a badass stalker who racked up something like 15 kills and then vanished off into the night, causing Tasteless to make up those quotes just to describe how cool it was, which is why it's called the badass stalker voice.
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On April 29 2011 06:31 Zinthar wrote:
It looks like the documentaries that are shown live are not present in the VOD's. I wanted to re-watch the ones they've done about Losira, but can't find them.
they are in the gomcam section - just click on any vod and its above the video
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On April 29 2011 04:36 hitman133295 wrote:
MC is the only protoss that I can trust in any tourney. Alicia and San are really good, but just in specific MU like PvT or PvZ, whereas MC's perfect all around.
Alicia is probably better (even far better maybe?) than MC in PvT. MC is better in PvZ/PvP but since he seems to struggle a lot in PvT we can't say he is perfect all around...
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wow no one can stop losirA
I thought Alicia was going to carry it on to the finals with his great pvz but wow.
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Losira showing the world how powerful zerg is when nobody else is willing to try.
Fightin'
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man, nada is a sick macro machine... has like 4 bases and doesn't float minerals at all. love his style
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On April 29 2011 06:49 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 04:36 hitman133295 wrote:
MC is the only protoss that I can trust in any tourney. Alicia and San are really good, but just in specific MU like PvT or PvZ, whereas MC's perfect all around. Alicia is probably better (even far better maybe?) than MC in PvT. MC is better in PvZ/PvP but since he seems to struggle a lot in PvT we can't say he is perfect all around...
he beat Kas 4-0 at copenhagen. id say his PvT is pretty strong.
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On April 28 2011 21:22 kheldorin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 21:18 Ezekyle wrote:On April 28 2011 21:15 Aristodemus wrote:On April 28 2011 21:13 BuzZoo wrote:
Like I said. Vastly superior. Because all zerg are godly whereas all protoss are noobs amirite? Well Alicia did just get ripped apart 2-0 in a matchup that heavily favours his race - whether it's due to metagame trends or actual balance issues is irrelevant. So in this case I think we can probably say that yes, Losira was by far the better player in this series. The point is that the matchup never favored the Protoss race in the first place. It isn't the Protoss race fault that Zerg players took forever to come up with good strategies against Protoss.
The problem isn't with the early game. Everyone and their mother knows the problem with ZvP is when the deathball starts to form. Just because Zergs found a decent strategy for early aggression, doesn't mean the match up is suddenly fixed.
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I have a serious question - how the hell does NaDa do it!? He takes out Genius!? Yes, he hasn't been in top form since Blizzcon but damn NaDa, he has such great natural ability!
Team kills and Alicia kills make me sad 
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Nada has insane macro. 4-5 bases and never goes above 400/400. WTF?
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On April 29 2011 08:30 Scila wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 21:22 kheldorin wrote:On April 28 2011 21:18 Ezekyle wrote:On April 28 2011 21:15 Aristodemus wrote:On April 28 2011 21:13 BuzZoo wrote:
Like I said. Vastly superior. Because all zerg are godly whereas all protoss are noobs amirite? Well Alicia did just get ripped apart 2-0 in a matchup that heavily favours his race - whether it's due to metagame trends or actual balance issues is irrelevant. So in this case I think we can probably say that yes, Losira was by far the better player in this series. The point is that the matchup never favored the Protoss race in the first place. It isn't the Protoss race fault that Zerg players took forever to come up with good strategies against Protoss. The problem isn't with the early game. Everyone and their mother knows the problem with ZvP is when the deathball starts to form. Just because Zergs found a decent strategy for early aggression, doesn't mean the match up is suddenly fixed.
You're a month late with this whine -It's not a problem if you get infestors. Get your own collossi w/ NP and own up Toss. In other words it's not broken, never was.
I call more units, more base, more harvesters a little more than "early aggression".... have to see how it plays out before using the bad imba word because Alicia could have done a safer forge expand...
To me imba is something that can't be stopped or that can't prevent you from being crippled for rest of game, death ball certainly doesnt meet that criteria with new mass infestor builds. VR with 49 DPS and range of 7 was.
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Disappointed Alicia got knocked out - my second pick to win, the first being, ah, Fruitdealer (because I am a loyal, loyal fan, but dammit, up against NesTea next as;ldkfjas;ldkfj) - but LosirA pulled off those wins beautifully.
Even so, those forcefields were a thing of beauty.
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On April 29 2011 06:31 Zinthar wrote:
It looks like the documentaries that are shown live are not present in the VOD's. I wanted to re-watch the ones they've done about Losira, but can't find them.
All the non game related video are in GOMCAM section.
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On April 29 2011 13:58 babylon wrote:
Disappointed Alicia got knocked out - my second pick to win, the first being, ah, Fruitdealer (because I am a loyal, loyal fan, but dammit, up against NesTea next as;ldkfjas;ldkfj) - but LosirA pulled off those wins beautifully.
Even so, those forcefields were a thing of beauty.
Haha those were my two picks in that exact same order too.
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Last night's games got me so excited for ESPORTS; Losira is a monster and NaDa is a legend.
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On April 29 2011 13:27 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 08:30 Scila wrote:On April 28 2011 21:22 kheldorin wrote:On April 28 2011 21:18 Ezekyle wrote:On April 28 2011 21:15 Aristodemus wrote:On April 28 2011 21:13 BuzZoo wrote:
Like I said. Vastly superior. Because all zerg are godly whereas all protoss are noobs amirite? Well Alicia did just get ripped apart 2-0 in a matchup that heavily favours his race - whether it's due to metagame trends or actual balance issues is irrelevant. So in this case I think we can probably say that yes, Losira was by far the better player in this series. The point is that the matchup never favored the Protoss race in the first place. It isn't the Protoss race fault that Zerg players took forever to come up with good strategies against Protoss. The problem isn't with the early game. Everyone and their mother knows the problem with ZvP is when the deathball starts to form. Just because Zergs found a decent strategy for early aggression, doesn't mean the match up is suddenly fixed. You're a month late with this whine -It's not a problem if you get infestors. Get your own collossi w/ NP and own up Toss. In other words it's not broken, never was. I call more units, more base, more harvesters a little more than "early aggression".... have to see how it plays out before using the bad imba word because Alicia could have done a safer forge expand... To me imba is something that can't be stopped or that can't prevent you from being crippled for rest of game, death ball certainly doesnt meet that criteria with new mass infestor builds. VR with 49 DPS and range of 7 was.
Ahh so reading just one post from you I can already tell that you're one of those protoss that struggles with pvz and waits for one MAYBE two top toss to lose the match up so you can start crying imbalance too
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Back when barracks didn't require a depot, Terran had these insanely strong vZ openings that were disproportionally hard to stop without perfect play. If it didn't kill Zerg outright, they were miles and miles ahead economically and just rolled their opponents with a big bioball a few minutes later. All Zergs could do for MONTHS was moan about it.
Now Zerg has an insanely strong opening vP that is disproportionally hard to stop without perfect forcefields. If it doesn't kill Protoss outright, Zerg is miles and miles ahead economically and can just roll their opponent with endless streams of Roach/Hydra/ling. Allow protoss to complain a bit.
Random player btw.
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I can't do the LR thread for today's code A, if anyone can do it, gogogo.
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