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Arguing and whining in this thread will be met with the hammer. Please enjoy the games and keep this thread on track!
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3281
Well I am disappoint in the results so far... especially since it'll probably be a 3-0, but Hasu is amazing; very fun to watch (ironically).
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Mercury-
Profile Joined December 2010
Great Britain804 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3282
On April 25 2011 05:32 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:30 Caphe wrote:
Why Boxer makes only 2 medivacs is beyond me. And this mass warpgate is gonna get nerf. Big maps and protoss got like 30 warpgate, noone is gonna beat that.
Warpgate in general is a terrible idea.

How the hell is it not balanced? It's the same with terran banking resources and making 30 rax, or zerg banking resources while pooling larvae...
They were both maxed @ like a million resources.. It was just a bit bad decisionmaking from BoxeR,he had that in the bag..

Neither larva nor Rax production are frontloaded though. Also he can just spam Wgates around the map and still have units on command. Look at what happened to Boxer's production once the P army got between his army and base.
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3283
Nani and Hasu should just toss a coin instead of finals.
Mr. Butterfly
Profile Joined April 2011
19 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3284
1 dimensional terran
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3285
On April 25 2011 05:33 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:32 Logo2010 wrote:
Forget Zerg remax, Protoss Remax owns


On super late game, the scope of protoss design is much better.

Zerg spends 450 gold on Hatchery + Queen to get larvae

Protoss can get 3 warpgates with same money, warp anywhere on map.


Stop the f*cking whining. Warp gates can't make 25 units at a time.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3286
On April 25 2011 05:31 Trentelshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:29 Necosarius wrote:
What? This game was never looking to be Boxers

It was when he ruined the army in the middle. Then he decided to get himself horribly out of position when you could tell if he went SW that HasuObs would move into his main. Questionable decision at best.

Na I would say they were about even, Hasu could replace his army instantly and was one base ahead.
Neino
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway295 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3287
Guys, seriously, stop whining about warp gates. Hasu did not win that because of warp gates. He won it because Boxer made a horrible decision when he had a massive advantage, then overstimmed like hell to get back, which let his army get oneshot. Boxer lost that game when Hasu got to his natural and boxer was in red health on all his maras. That's before Hasu got to reinforce with the warp gates, so please stop whining about it.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3288
I'm crying inside. Gah, I'm so depressed, can't watch anymore

Still gonna hold onto hope.
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3289
HasuObs played beautifully with that counterattack. I hope BoxeR can pull through though...
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3290
On April 25 2011 05:32 tyCe wrote:
I think I've been spoilt by ThorZaIN v MC but this match series seems really low quality

BoxeR practising his Fantasy GG timing and HasuObs doesn't use observers in his army and controls groups ALL of his Templars together. In fact, HasuObs only uses 2 control groups for his army


lol at someone thinking that control groups make you a good player. TLO does not play with control groups at all (I think it`s him anyway, I know one pro at least does it). He must suck I guess.
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3291
On April 25 2011 05:33 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:31 Beef Noodles wrote:
That's such an amazing display of a simple fact. As the game goes SUPER LATE game, and the map is HUGE. How does a terran compete with warpgate mobility if they are maxed and taking out far expansions?

I am a zerg btw


The warpgate mobility had little to nothing to do with it. There wasn't even a proxy close for the mass gates teleport ability to come into play. Over stimming and possibly slightly better emps would have helped boxer take the game.

I think he's talking about the defensive advantage it brings, you can deal with smallish attacks by warping in a round of units instead of having to walk part of your army back.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
ChaosArcher
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany956 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3292
HasuObs denies every little move of the emperor :O

Hasu Fighting!
rezzor
Profile Joined August 2010
El Salvador64 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3293
GGGGGGGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!
Viva la Revolución!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3294
Boxer should have gone for mass PF in defence and then attack with 200 pop
Bluedraqy
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark496 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3295
On April 25 2011 05:32 jwp36 wrote:
Why aren't Ts getting Ravens late game? Would have nullified DT harass and PDD for Stalkers..

Wouldn't have nullified DTs imho, they were everywhere...
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3296
what is up with europeans dominating sc2...they so good! Korean-Europe>America, LA, CN
Niruz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden169 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3297
Thorzain Naniwa finals will make it interesting

I honestly dont want to see Kas PvT and Hasuobs PvT at all in a final
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-24 20:36:22
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3298
On April 25 2011 05:34 DailYLeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:32 arterian wrote:
boxers play was good but he slipped up with the base race, really cant do that as terran on these gigantic maps


yeah an other problem was, that hasu came first to the production facilities and boxer just came to 1-2 bases , but not to the production.

QFT. If you looked through Hasuobs' main, everything was powered by only like 6 pylons. If he pushed or even dropped the main during that last battle he would've decimated Hasu, as suddenly Hasu can make no units, ever.
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3299
On April 25 2011 05:33 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 05:31 Beef Noodles wrote:
That's such an amazing display of a simple fact. As the game goes SUPER LATE game, and the map is HUGE. How does a terran compete with warpgate mobility if they are maxed and taking out far expansions?

I am a zerg btw


The warpgate mobility had little to nothing to do with it. There wasn't even a proxy close for the mass gates teleport ability to come into play. Over stimming and possibly slightly better emps would have helped boxer take the game.

It has everything to do with it. The difference in warpgate mobility and terran production immobility is what that game was all about. Boxer was split in half, and hasu could warp in to reinforce so his army stayed together. Obviously other factors also came in to play, but the big difference imo was toss mobility
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
April 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#3300
Not sure why Boxer went for Hasu's expo instead of his main. He had a clear advantage after killing that army, but then lost all of his production in exchange for only killing one expansion. Not an even trade at all.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
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