On April 07 2011 05:38 Pandain wrote:
Ret Overproducing drones...
I still can't understand how u can overproduce drones like 5 minutes into the game lol

Yeah, he wasn't playing his best games the last weeks. I hope he'll be back in top form for NASL.

dambros

Brazil432 Posts

April 06 2011 20:50 GMT

#62

Can someone tell me results of the previous matches please?

NorthernRiver

Sweden107 Posts

April 06 2011 20:50 GMT

#63

Good job casting Khaldor, finaly an enthustiastic caster! Just work on always checking the minimap and you'll be the best

Keep it up!

Murdoink

Chile1219 Posts

April 06 2011 20:55 GMT

#64

Khaldor = best caster

proxY_

United States1561 Posts

April 06 2011 21:01 GMT

#65

I can't believe that Ret stopped that, incredible play. I'm not sure when Ret noticed the nexus got cancelled (if he noticed at all). It's a little ridiculous the protoss can all in like he did and still be in a somewhat decent position (he is pretty far behind though). Strength of forcefields i suppose.

Ragoo

Germany2773 Posts

April 06 2011 21:04 GMT

#66

Hasuobs always staying so calm. I love watching him

proxY_

United States1561 Posts

April 06 2011 21:10 GMT

#67

So Ret defends a 4 or 5 gate nexus cancel all-inish attack, has a 20 supply lead, a 20 worker lead when it's 3 base to 2 base and he still loses? I can certainly understand his frustration with zvp lately.

Excellent casting btw.

Pekkz

Norway1505 Posts

April 06 2011 21:14 GMT

#68

On April 07 2011 06:01 proxY_ wrote:
I can't believe that Ret stopped that, incredible play. I'm not sure when Ret noticed the nexus got cancelled (if he noticed at all). It's a little ridiculous the protoss can all in like he did and still be in a somewhat decent position (he is pretty far behind though). Strength of forcefields i suppose.

Its kinda sad indeed. If you all in as zerg and it fails, you can just leave after. If you all in as protoss and it fails, you can end up in a decent position still

He went on to win the game with a unbeatable ball it looked like. Dunno what beats that combo Hasuobs ended up with.

Andamanen

Netherlands915 Posts

April 06 2011 21:19 GMT

#69

On April 07 2011 06:14 Pekkz wrote:
He went on to win the game with a unbeatable ball it looked like. Dunno what beats that combo Hasuobs ended up with.

Mobility is probably the best answer to the Protoss ball. Drops, nydus or multi-pronged attacks.

proxY_

United States1561 Posts

April 06 2011 21:20 GMT

#70

On April 07 2011 06:14 Pekkz wrote:

Show nested quote +

Its kinda sad indeed. If you all in as zerg and it fails, you can just leave after. If you all in as protoss and it fails, you can end up in a decent position still

He went on to win the game with a unbeatable ball it looked like. Dunno what beats that combo Hasuobs ended up with.

It was played last patch so the frequency of storms was probably a bit higher in the end game battles (didn't notice if Hasu got khaydarin or not). Ret prematurely attacked with his roach ball right after he defended the 5 gate and he pretty much lost 6 roaches for free. Ret probably also over made hydras in the midgame (he had limited options to attack and Hasu was doing colossus into ht), he should've used the gas to tech up faster i guess. The really big mistake was letting Hasu snipe the third when Ret still had a 20 or so supply lead, he was just caught out of position I guess (there was only one colossus at that point, not exactly game breaking). The creep spread was pretty bad the whole game as and that really hurt when Ret made so many hydras.

It is one of the most frustrating things as a zerg player to see a four or five gate attack or a two rax heavy bunker push with 5 or 6 scvs fail and then you go onto lose the game anyway. There's really no recovering from a similar zerg all-in.

vdale

Germany1173 Posts

April 06 2011 21:20 GMT

#71

I think Hasu did enough damage: ret had to stop the drone production, he had to cancel his 3rd, lost some drones and Hasu didn't lose all his units.

After that ret made some mistakes like losing ~7 roaches for free, so Hasu managed to get back into the game.

If you made so many roaches as zerg, you are always ahead in supply, but it doesn't mean much.

ttomelle

Sweden243 Posts

April 06 2011 21:22 GMT

#72

deserved win.grats hasu

DiaBoLuS

Germany1638 Posts

April 06 2011 21:37 GMT

#73

On April 07 2011 06:19 Andamanen wrote:

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Mobility is probably the best answer to the Protoss ball. Drops, nydus or multi-pronged attacks.

mobility - YES. roach or baneling drops, roach attacks or muta play if you scout robotech

another point:
the new FUNGAL does almost 3x the dmg of 1.2 patch. its hilarious vs toss ball (all armored). combined with baneling bombs - great thing to do - depending on the void amount.