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Stay on-topic please. Off-topic arguments derailing the thread will not be tolerated.
Next spam post about eagles = ban. We get it, you're funny
Take the eagle stuff here
stop with the bw vs wc3 bullshit please
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16281
day9 on king of tins!!
Turn it Up
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16282
On April 04 2011 09:23 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 09:18 Kiarip wrote:
On April 04 2011 09:13 TofuFox wrote:
Any reason for no Ravens in the Terran mix there? Between DT detection and point defense drones (to protect the vikings) it seems like they'd be a good addition. Would it just have been too much gas?



No. You're absolutely right. terran just needs to catch up strategy wise. When you go bio, and the other guy is goign colossus heavy, ravens become really good at saving vikings, because they can place forward pdd's while vikings chase the army.


It's not an issue of strategy, it's an issue of execution. Being able to stim kite, drop PDDs, control vikings perfectly, cast perfect EMPs, and macro well at the same time is simply not possible with even 300 apm.


have you ever seen a BW game?
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16283
Day9 on Kings of Tin? We are actually going to see Day9 play SC2?!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16284
On April 04 2011 09:23 WaZuP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 09:19 Novalisk wrote:
Lol what a creeper sign.


Couldn t read it fast enough, what did it say?

"I want ...???"


"... to smell Day9"
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16285
On April 04 2011 09:21 Jakkerr wrote:
I don't wanna burst ur protoss OP bubbles but select could have won that game EASILY.
Colossi take a loooong time to build, when select won the battle and pushed kiwi's 3rd he should have just backed up.
Protoss can warp in 10 units at the same time indeed but those units suck vs a big group of terran units.
Instead Select runs in, suicides his army + all his VIKINGS.
He could have just gone back and come 2 mins later with a HUGE army and be up vs 3 colossi at most.

cool


I don't get your reasoning. Collosus are a powerful unit but they take a long time to build. Select should have retreated and attacked to give the protoss time to rebuild those collosus. ...? In case you forgot, collosus rape a big group of bio units.

Not pointing out imbalance, just saying your reasoning is terrible
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Binky1842
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States2599 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16286
On April 04 2011 09:23 Essentia wrote:
has nani still not dropped a game in the tourny?

no he has not. he's a badass that's for sure
"The zoo could not confirm that Binky was the attacker, but only Binky had blood on his face following the incident"
The Stapler
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16287
On April 04 2011 09:23 s031720 wrote:
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On April 04 2011 09:21 Dark-Storm wrote:
I <3 my New Epic Wallpaper
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That is cool If you make it in widescreen resolution and upload it somewhere I would def. use that aswell



here's one i made and posted a few pages ago.....so i'll repost since there is some downtime

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Swad1000
Profile Joined January 2011
United States366 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16288
After watching some replays i would expect atleast one proxy from Naniwa. His proxy 1 gate to 4 gate is mean as hell.
haylmfao
Profile Joined January 2011
124 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16289
On April 04 2011 09:23 pleskator wrote:
GOGO Naniwa, make it 26-1!!!

At this point, this has to be trolling.
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16290
actually, standard double elim grand finals is the loser's finalist has to win two BoXs (one putting the winner in loser's, and one to win), whereas the winner just has to win one BoX
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16291
On April 04 2011 09:14 Argelia wrote:
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On April 04 2011 09:11 Whole wrote:
On April 04 2011 09:11 oo inflame oo wrote:
hey this isnt a troll post and i dont want to be banned,

but since toss has had such a strong showing is there anywhere on this site where we can discuss balance?

or do these forums not support that type of discussion?


so terran is supposed to beat protoss with extremely bad upgrades?



nono you got it all wrong, terran is supposed to beat protoss with perfectly placed emps over and over.

anyway i'm frustrated


If that was the case then toss should never be able to beat terran ever... Well palced EMP's don't mean auto win in battles, KiWi had more mining bases, better upgrades and tech, more workers and more production capabilities. The DT's in the army really helped him in those battles also.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16292
Lol day9, your on CST there not PST,
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#16293
On April 04 2011 09:23 Essentia wrote:
has nani still not dropped a game in the tourny?

He has not, and since he enjoys PvP I don't think he will lose one in the finals either.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16294
On April 04 2011 09:23 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 09:18 Kiarip wrote:
On April 04 2011 09:13 TofuFox wrote:
Any reason for no Ravens in the Terran mix there? Between DT detection and point defense drones (to protect the vikings) it seems like they'd be a good addition. Would it just have been too much gas?



No. You're absolutely right. terran just needs to catch up strategy wise. When you go bio, and the other guy is goign colossus heavy, ravens become really good at saving vikings, because they can place forward pdd's while vikings chase the army.


It's not an issue of strategy, it's an issue of execution. Being able to stim kite, drop PDDs, control vikings perfectly, cast perfect EMPs, and macro well at the same time is simply not possible with even 300 apm.

And the counter for protoss is to turtle harder and make more collosi, Sounds fair to me!

User was temp banned for this post.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
zevered
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada31 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16295
uniden fighting :D
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16296
Uniden HWAITINGGG
Never say die
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16297
SelecT couldn't fight Kiwi on the long run because of Kiwi's better economy: he needed to do economical damage but it was the opposite as several factors (cannons while T needs units to protect a mineral line from stalkers, warp-in allowing Kiwi to react faster while SelecT had to travel the map, etc.) helped Kiwikaki make his expos safer.
It's often said that Terran needs to get into lategame with an advantage over Protoss, and here it was Kiwi with better tech and economy (and upgrades). It's not about playing good in the lategame as much as SelecT fighting uphill for the vast majority of the game, basically.

As for ravens, we could see that Kiwi had the better mobility during this whole part of the game, not even factoring blink in: ravens are slow, expensive units that would be killed at the first engagement. As they were trading armies, and SelecT needed as much vikings as he could squeeze out of those starports, any raven would have been a waste for him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16298
On April 04 2011 09:23 WaZuP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 09:19 Novalisk wrote:
Lol what a creeper sign.


Couldn t read it fast enough, what did it say?

"I want ...???"


I want to smell Day[89]
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16299
On April 04 2011 09:23 PokePill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 09:18 Kiarip wrote:
On April 04 2011 09:13 TofuFox wrote:
Any reason for no Ravens in the Terran mix there? Between DT detection and point defense drones (to protect the vikings) it seems like they'd be a good addition. Would it just have been too much gas?



No. You're absolutely right. terran just needs to catch up strategy wise. When you go bio, and the other guy is goign colossus heavy, ravens become really good at saving vikings, because they can place forward pdd's while vikings chase the army.


It's not an issue of strategy, it's an issue of execution. Being able to stim kite, drop PDDs, control vikings perfectly, cast perfect EMPs, and macro well at the same time is simply not possible with even 300 apm.



meh i dont like that justifcation. if broodwar has shown us anything it's that insane play is possible. also i dont think someone like select would say 'ravens would be good but I'm just not good enough to control everything'. Even without flawless execution ravens are better than no ravens.
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
April 04 2011 00:25 GMT
#16300
I can't believe people actually think Select played better than Kiwi...really, I guess no matter how well someone does there are always people who will just blame imbalance, regardless of how many vikings they lose to zealots, how many drops they fail, how many SCV's they lose to 2 stalkers whilst being incapable of doing the same with 2 full medivacs
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