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On April 03 2011 21:39 pieman819 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:33 scrub96 wrote:On April 03 2011 20:59 Zaffy wrote:
its funny how people are mntioning 1 game in the GSL. I have watched every gsl for the past 3 months. one or two mouse / headset problems and the dimaga mvp thing which was sorted inside 10 minutes.
MLG issues are taking HOURS to sort out EVERY DAY. the fact you are even comparing the two is laughable. The GSL and the MLG are two very different events. The GSL does not move but once a season (for finals) and has control of every aspect of their facility. Not to mention Korean internet infrastructure is better than the USA (the entire country is smaller than the sate of Florida so it helps). GSL did manage to put out some games from some kinda ice rink in a amusement park yesterday with no problems, there first time there.
They also didn't play halo, cod and a 256 man tournament at the same time either. It's really apples and oranges logistics wise, and misjudging the infrastructure at the venue just kind of spiraled to a lot of problems.
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nani went 4-0? Oh my god he must be insane. 4 gate or not, that's impressive (ppl should be able to defend 4 gate by now...)
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On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it.
Thoughts become words. Words become actions. Actions become habits. Habits become character. Character becomes destiny. In other-words being a good sportsman starts with sportsmanship and conversely bad sportsmanship creates bad sportsmen.
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On April 03 2011 21:44 ParasitJonte wrote:
nani went 4-0? Oh my god he must be insane. 4 gate or not, that's impressive (ppl should be able to defend 4 gate by now...)
Naniwa has played 20 matches so far at the tournament. He has not lost a single game so far.
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On April 03 2011 21:40 KahunaNui wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it. I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played. If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play.
Reading this makes me hate this community so much. Can you say 'you dont you dont you dont!' anymore? Lets replace all the players with just AI. Who wouldn't want to watch Player 1 vs Player 2? At least we get the gg at the end!
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This Idra kid has some serious rage issues. I am glad it backfired, even though i still think he is better than huk. But if you want to see opness everywhere you will see opnees everywhere.
Six (6!) voidrays suddenly poping out of nowhere? I better make sure to ragequit asap!
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Spades as been eliminated :/
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On April 03 2011 21:46 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:40 KahunaNui wrote:On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it. I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played. If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play. Reading this makes me hate this community so much. Can you say 'you dont you dont you dont!' anymore? Lets replace all the players with just AI. Who wouldn't want to watch Player 1 vs Player 2? At least we get the gg at the end!
I don't think anyone cares if a player gets emotional once in a while. What irritates most people is when a player gets emotional EVERY time they lose and when a player shows overconfidence before every game they play. Sure, if you have the skills like MC then having great confidence doesn't make you look bad, but if you keep saying how everyone else at a tournament are scrubs, then lose to half of them and whine, it starts getting a bit annoying.
I like watching Idra play in tournaments mostly because it is fun to watch people like him lose. I would respect him more and probably even cheer for him if he acted more humbly though.
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On April 03 2011 21:47 Grummler wrote:
This Idra kid has some serious rage issues. I am glad it backfired, even though i still think he is better than huk. But if you want to see opness everywhere you will see opnees everywhere.
Six (6!) voidrays suddenly poping out of nowhere? I better make sure to ragequit asap!
He even could see that they did no damage ....
I just watched it and i'm still rofling.
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On April 03 2011 21:52 DrainX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:46 Mycl wrote:On April 03 2011 21:40 KahunaNui wrote:On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it. I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played. If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play. Reading this makes me hate this community so much. Can you say 'you dont you dont you dont!' anymore? Lets replace all the players with just AI. Who wouldn't want to watch Player 1 vs Player 2? At least we get the gg at the end! I don't think anyone cares if a player gets emotional once in a while. What irritates most people is when a player gets emotional EVERY time they lose and when a player shows overconfidence before every game they play. Sure, if you have the skills like MC then having great confidence doesn't make you look bad, but if you keep saying how everyone else at a tournament are scrubs, then lose to half of them and whine, it starts getting a bit annoying. I like watching Idra play in tournaments mostly because it is fun to watch people like him lose. I would respect him more and probably even cheer for him if he acted more humbly though.
When is a loss viewed as 'acceptable' for a player? I don't blame Idra for thinking that way. Today we saw maybe the 2 foreigners with the most emotion riding in their play. We all know Huk gets very down after losing because he likes to have the confidence that he is the very best. While Idra is on the opposite end of the spectrum and gets mad/sad when he loses because he believes the opponent is a newbie.
Even as an Idra fan I couldn't be more happy watching that series:D even if it was off a replay and I knew the result. Here's hoping for a rematch in the champion bracket!
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On April 03 2011 21:52 DrainX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:46 Mycl wrote:On April 03 2011 21:40 KahunaNui wrote:On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it. I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played. If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play. Reading this makes me hate this community so much. Can you say 'you dont you dont you dont!' anymore? Lets replace all the players with just AI. Who wouldn't want to watch Player 1 vs Player 2? At least we get the gg at the end! I don't think anyone cares if a player gets emotional once in a while. What irritates most people is when a player gets emotional EVERY time they lose and when a player shows overconfidence before every game they play. Sure, if you have the skills like MC then having great confidence doesn't make you look bad, but if you keep saying how everyone else at a tournament are scrubs, then lose to half of them and whine, it starts getting a bit annoying. I like watching Idra play in tournaments mostly because it is fun to watch people like him lose. I would respect him more and probably even cheer for him if he acted more humbly though.
MC GGs. MC doesn't call other players scrubs. MC is humbled by losses and gives them props. MC "no comments" about balance. MC says he needs to practice more to beat foreigners. Big difference. His (over) confidence, almost comic book bravado, gets him hyped and seems to work for him but really not even negative emotion to be found from what I can tell. IdrA is just to negative.
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On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it.
Stress in itself causes some pretty bad cognitive issues for an RST player. poor judgement, negative outlook , along with all the physical symptoms. This can't be helped much, it something everyone has to deal with. But Anger, cause a whole other set of cognitive issues that are much worse then just stress.
"Anger makes people think more optimistically. Dangers seem smaller, actions seem less risky, ventures seem more likely to succeed, unfortunate events seem less likely. Angry people are more likely to make risky decisions, and make more optimistic risk assessments." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger#Cognitive_effects
Idra needs learn some kind coping method otherwise he's walking into games with a very real handicap.And I bet other players do try to target this flaw.
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On April 03 2011 22:03 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:52 DrainX wrote:On April 03 2011 21:46 Mycl wrote:On April 03 2011 21:40 KahunaNui wrote:On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it. I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played. If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play. Reading this makes me hate this community so much. Can you say 'you dont you dont you dont!' anymore? Lets replace all the players with just AI. Who wouldn't want to watch Player 1 vs Player 2? At least we get the gg at the end! I don't think anyone cares if a player gets emotional once in a while. What irritates most people is when a player gets emotional EVERY time they lose and when a player shows overconfidence before every game they play. Sure, if you have the skills like MC then having great confidence doesn't make you look bad, but if you keep saying how everyone else at a tournament are scrubs, then lose to half of them and whine, it starts getting a bit annoying. I like watching Idra play in tournaments mostly because it is fun to watch people like him lose. I would respect him more and probably even cheer for him if he acted more humbly though. MC GGs. MC doesn't call other players scrubs. MC is humbled by losses and gives them props. MC "no comments" about balance. MC says he needs to practice more to beat foreigners. Big difference. His (over) confidence, almost comic book bravado, gets him hyped and seems to work for him but really not even negative emotion to be found from what I can tell. IdrA is just to negative.
well put
also, halfway through your post, "walkover" and "  " comes to my mind, and I laughed a little.
GO HUK
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did they post idra vs huk replay yet?, the 2nd one with hallucination
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On April 03 2011 12:36 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Are people actually thinking that Idra saw 4 voidrays and he left? Idra wasn't gonna win that game so he just left. Sure it was early but its a long drawn out half map verus half map.
wow your ignorance is unbelievable
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you put idra as terran =)
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On April 03 2011 21:08 coddan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 20:45 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:27 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 20:21 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:10 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 19:55 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 19:49 Saechiis wrote:
This is as much Blizzard's fault as it is MLG's, I hope people will flame them just as bad. I would if every other tournement had the same problems... but they dont. Other tournaments have problems all the time. Dimaga v MVP in the GSL was just a week ago. yes but they fix the problem and get going inside 10minutes. they let you know whats happening because the stream works. All matches are available to watch within a few hours, how many mlg matches are available? how many have even been streamed live? i have bought gom season tickets and the service has been superb. to even try and justify MLG by using the odd disconnect is laughable. GSL is so far ahead of MLG in every single way it is not even funny. I dont care for your fancy setups and flashy adverts, I want quality sc2 that i can watch. MLG do not provide that. Oh and please, dont use the " more viewers on mlg" . A organisation will know with even a little market research how many potential viewers they will get in a best and worst case senario and how to provide for it. Sure, MLG has problems other than battlenet, but fact remains, they have been screwed by no lan several times now. Part of the problem would be solved if Blizzard weren't so scared of pirates. A lot of their issues fall on themselves, but a lot also falls on Blizzard. you sound like an MLG employee clutching at straws. IEM, GSL, Blizzcon. non of these events have had anything like the problems here. in fact, unless people point out specific games, i dont even notice any disconnects in those tournaments as so few happen. I have yet to hear of players in GSL or IEM pause the game due to lag. its nothing to do with battle net, its to do with a lack of bandwidth at the site. I dont agree with an excuse being used that does not effect other events on such a ridiculous scale. In fact you say they have been "screwed several times". well apart from the fact that no other event has been screwed on such a large scale, why havnt they learnt? they surely must know by now what is required to run an sc2 tournement that lacks LAN support. they must have wondered how other events run with no lan support. its not as if GSL or IEM have a LAN version of sc2 What the hell? I'm clutching at straws for explaining why no LAN is messing up tournaments? "Unless you point out specific games" - what's that even supposed to mean? Then I could say "oh, unless you point out MLG's Internet issues, there's no problem!". In fact, I think you sound like a Blizzard employee desperately trying to justify not including LAN functionality. I couldn't remember if IEM had had any issues with no LAN, but a quick google search told me that they have had disconnects. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/540694998Justifying no LAN by saying "they should have a better connection" is stupid, because if there was LAN, that specific problem wouldn't exist.
You are completely clutching at straws, MLG knew about this issue beforehand, did absolutely nothing to prepare for it and they can't even stream a game and play one at the same time. Some other tournaments have had some disconnects, but to compare that to MLG, seriously? MLG was supposed to be streaming about 17 hours so far, from friday to saturday, We have seen 4 maybe 5 series live in those 17 hours. I've seen maybe 3 hours of live matches from MLG out of 17 hours of supposed streaming, and you are really comparing them to other tournaments? Punch yourself in the face a few times and wake up. There is no excuse, because they knew about this, its not like its some totally new idea that just popped up yesterday. There has been no LAN for a year now.
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On April 04 2011 00:12 Kvothe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:08 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 20:45 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:27 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 20:21 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:10 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 19:55 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 19:49 Saechiis wrote:
This is as much Blizzard's fault as it is MLG's, I hope people will flame them just as bad. I would if every other tournement had the same problems... but they dont. Other tournaments have problems all the time. Dimaga v MVP in the GSL was just a week ago. yes but they fix the problem and get going inside 10minutes. they let you know whats happening because the stream works. All matches are available to watch within a few hours, how many mlg matches are available? how many have even been streamed live? i have bought gom season tickets and the service has been superb. to even try and justify MLG by using the odd disconnect is laughable. GSL is so far ahead of MLG in every single way it is not even funny. I dont care for your fancy setups and flashy adverts, I want quality sc2 that i can watch. MLG do not provide that. Oh and please, dont use the " more viewers on mlg" . A organisation will know with even a little market research how many potential viewers they will get in a best and worst case senario and how to provide for it. Sure, MLG has problems other than battlenet, but fact remains, they have been screwed by no lan several times now. Part of the problem would be solved if Blizzard weren't so scared of pirates. A lot of their issues fall on themselves, but a lot also falls on Blizzard. you sound like an MLG employee clutching at straws. IEM, GSL, Blizzcon. non of these events have had anything like the problems here. in fact, unless people point out specific games, i dont even notice any disconnects in those tournaments as so few happen. I have yet to hear of players in GSL or IEM pause the game due to lag. its nothing to do with battle net, its to do with a lack of bandwidth at the site. I dont agree with an excuse being used that does not effect other events on such a ridiculous scale. In fact you say they have been "screwed several times". well apart from the fact that no other event has been screwed on such a large scale, why havnt they learnt? they surely must know by now what is required to run an sc2 tournement that lacks LAN support. they must have wondered how other events run with no lan support. its not as if GSL or IEM have a LAN version of sc2 What the hell? I'm clutching at straws for explaining why no LAN is messing up tournaments? "Unless you point out specific games" - what's that even supposed to mean? Then I could say "oh, unless you point out MLG's Internet issues, there's no problem!". In fact, I think you sound like a Blizzard employee desperately trying to justify not including LAN functionality. I couldn't remember if IEM had had any issues with no LAN, but a quick google search told me that they have had disconnects. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/540694998Justifying no LAN by saying "they should have a better connection" is stupid, because if there was LAN, that specific problem wouldn't exist. You are completely clutching at straws, MLG knew about this issue beforehand, did absolutely nothing to prepare for it and they can't even stream a game and play one at the same time. Some other tournaments have had some disconnects, but to compare that to MLG, seriously? MLG was supposed to be streaming about 17 hours so far, from friday to saturday, We have seen 4 maybe 5 series live in those 17 hours. I've seen maybe 3 hours of live matches from MLG out of 17 hours of supposed streaming, and you are really comparing them to other tournaments? Punch yourself in the face a few times and wake up. There is no excuse, because they knew about this, its not like its some totally new idea that just popped up yesterday. There has been no LAN for a year now.
Nowhere am I saying LAN would fix everything. I have said LAN would fix a lot of MLGs problems, which is entirely true. Never have I said MLG isn't at fault for a spotty Internet connection.
Maybe try and understand the discussion before joining it, thanks.
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Huk is talking to JP OMG!
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