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On April 03 2011 20:55 Joedaddy wrote:
Is it just me or are all the brackets showing "TBD" and no player info? I tried chrome and explorer as a browser cuz someone said chrome was better for the scripts used to load but still get nothing.
I think it's their plan to make enough people frustrated enough to not go on the page anymore: Less people there -> less bandwidth used -> better quality for the others.
No, It comes and goes, just come back in 5 mins and it should be fine again.
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On April 03 2011 20:55 Joedaddy wrote:
Is it just me or are all the brackets showing "TBD" and no player info? I tried chrome and explorer as a browser cuz someone said chrome was better for the scripts used to load but still get nothing.
Last two posts are about it. So no, you are not alone.
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its funny how people are mntioning 1 game in the GSL. I have watched every gsl for the past 3 months. one or two mouse / headset problems and the dimaga mvp thing which was sorted inside 10 minutes.
MLG issues are taking HOURS to sort out EVERY DAY. the fact you are even comparing the two is laughable.
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Is there anywhere I can actually find out wtf is going on in this tournament? The brackets are fucking bizarre (how did haypro get moved from the open bracket to the groups-_-?), and half the time they are empty.
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On April 03 2011 21:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Is there anywhere I can actually find out wtf is going on in this tournament? The brackets are fucking bizarre (how did haypro get moved from the open bracket to the groups-_-?), and half the time they are empty.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=196798 It's a serious mess otherwise.
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On April 03 2011 21:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Is there anywhere I can actually find out wtf is going on in this tournament? The brackets are fucking bizarre (how did haypro get moved from the open bracket to the groups-_-?), and half the time they are empty.
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Haypro was top 4 in the Open winners bracket, so went into Pool play to decide placement for the Champion Bracket.
This is the Champion Bracket that will kick off todays games:
![[image loading]](http://tinyurl.com/3ha7o9s)
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On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost.
Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight.
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On April 03 2011 20:53 the-gandhi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 20:47 Orome wrote:On April 03 2011 20:45 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:27 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 20:21 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:10 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 19:55 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 19:49 Saechiis wrote:
This is as much Blizzard's fault as it is MLG's, I hope people will flame them just as bad. I would if every other tournement had the same problems... but they dont. Other tournaments have problems all the time. Dimaga v MVP in the GSL was just a week ago. yes but they fix the problem and get going inside 10minutes. they let you know whats happening because the stream works. All matches are available to watch within a few hours, how many mlg matches are available? how many have even been streamed live? i have bought gom season tickets and the service has been superb. to even try and justify MLG by using the odd disconnect is laughable. GSL is so far ahead of MLG in every single way it is not even funny. I dont care for your fancy setups and flashy adverts, I want quality sc2 that i can watch. MLG do not provide that. Oh and please, dont use the " more viewers on mlg" . A organisation will know with even a little market research how many potential viewers they will get in a best and worst case senario and how to provide for it. Sure, MLG has problems other than battlenet, but fact remains, they have been screwed by no lan several times now. Part of the problem would be solved if Blizzard weren't so scared of pirates. A lot of their issues fall on themselves, but a lot also falls on Blizzard. you sound like an MLG employee clutching at straws. IEM, GSL, Blizzcon. non of these events have had anything like the problems here. in fact, unless people point out specific games, i dont even notice any disconnects in those tournaments as so few happen. I have yet to hear of players in GSL or IEM pause the game due to lag. its nothing to do with battle net, its to do with a lack of bandwidth at the site. Actually GSL's had several problems recently that were completely caused by no LAN, e.g. the MVP vs Dimaga drop from the Korea vs world teamleague. Isn't that the only one? at least the only one i seen in the last few weeks. (with tournaments pretty much every day) I just remember the last two MLG events, MLG finals beeing rediculus. What was it? like 2 hours waiting for the last 10 minute game? And now not only the games dieing but also the stream beeing unwatchable for quite some time. :/ not a very good thing. I have yet to see another tournament, even the small ones over the internet where everyone has a different internetline and might get screwed, to actually have to cancel matches or even halt the turnament.
Maybe it's those theories of backwards evolution at work.
Next season they will play BW on Pentium II's
The season after (before?) that it will be a tournament of Magic The Gathering
And the next one, a book fair will replace MLG (but there will be a table in a corner of the hall next to the toilets, filled with spirale binded books about Dos programming)
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MOAR THRASHTALK PLEASE!!
I was laughing so hard in that Huk vs Idra game :p Though it hurt seeing that as a zergplayer 
Funny nonetheless^^
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I have to say that Idra moment is absolutely glorious. Huk's hallucinate was a good idea to scare the attack away or at least absorb a lot of hits from corruptors. Idra being the raging 100lb nerd we all love to hate doesn't have the resilience to see things through and finish the game. And quitters never win ...
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On April 03 2011 20:45 Zaffy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 20:27 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 20:21 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 20:10 coddan wrote:On April 03 2011 19:55 Zaffy wrote:On April 03 2011 19:49 Saechiis wrote:
This is as much Blizzard's fault as it is MLG's, I hope people will flame them just as bad. I would if every other tournement had the same problems... but they dont. Other tournaments have problems all the time. Dimaga v MVP in the GSL was just a week ago. yes but they fix the problem and get going inside 10minutes. they let you know whats happening because the stream works. All matches are available to watch within a few hours, how many mlg matches are available? how many have even been streamed live? i have bought gom season tickets and the service has been superb. to even try and justify MLG by using the odd disconnect is laughable. GSL is so far ahead of MLG in every single way it is not even funny. I dont care for your fancy setups and flashy adverts, I want quality sc2 that i can watch. MLG do not provide that. Oh and please, dont use the " more viewers on mlg" . A organisation will know with even a little market research how many potential viewers they will get in a best and worst case senario and how to provide for it. Sure, MLG has problems other than battlenet, but fact remains, they have been screwed by no lan several times now. Part of the problem would be solved if Blizzard weren't so scared of pirates. A lot of their issues fall on themselves, but a lot also falls on Blizzard. you sound like an MLG employee clutching at straws. IEM, GSL, Blizzcon. non of these events have had anything like the problems here. in fact, unless people point out specific games, i dont even notice any disconnects in those tournaments as so few happen. I have yet to hear of players in GSL or IEM pause the game due to lag. its nothing to do with battle net, its to do with a lack of bandwidth at the site. I dont agree with an excuse being used that does not effect other events on such a ridiculous scale. In fact you say they have been "screwed several times". well apart from the fact that no other event has been screwed on such a large scale, why havnt they learnt? they surely must know by now what is required to run an sc2 tournement that lacks LAN support. they must have wondered how other events run with no lan support. its not as if GSL or IEM have a LAN version of sc2 
What the hell? I'm clutching at straws for explaining why no LAN is messing up tournaments? "Unless you point out specific games" - what's that even supposed to mean? Then I could say "oh, unless you point out MLG's Internet issues, there's no problem!". In fact, I think you sound like a Blizzard employee desperately trying to justify not including LAN functionality.
I couldn't remember if IEM had had any issues with no LAN, but a quick google search told me that they have had disconnects.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/540694998
Justifying no LAN by saying "they should have a better connection" is stupid, because if there was LAN, that specific problem wouldn't exist.
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The pool play/winners/losers replay pages are all greyed out/TBD atm. When they were up some of the results were incorrect and replays were missing.
There are quite a few reps on http://www.sc2rep.com
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On April 03 2011 20:59 Zaffy wrote:
its funny how people are mntioning 1 game in the GSL. I have watched every gsl for the past 3 months. one or two mouse / headset problems and the dimaga mvp thing which was sorted inside 10 minutes.
MLG issues are taking HOURS to sort out EVERY DAY. the fact you are even comparing the two is laughable.
Haha yeah "gsl has had SEVERAL problems" and people only name 1 game which is always the same one  P
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On April 03 2011 21:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Is there anywhere I can actually find out wtf is going on in this tournament? The brackets are fucking bizarre (how did haypro get moved from the open bracket to the groups-_-?), and half the time they are empty.
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Ask Tyler Sir jinro !
he knows :p
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On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight.
I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt.
Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it.
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On April 03 2011 20:59 Zaffy wrote:
its funny how people are mntioning 1 game in the GSL. I have watched every gsl for the past 3 months. one or two mouse / headset problems and the dimaga mvp thing which was sorted inside 10 minutes.
MLG issues are taking HOURS to sort out EVERY DAY. the fact you are even comparing the two is laughable.
The GSL and the MLG are two very different events. The GSL does not move but once a season (for finals) and has control of every aspect of their facility. Not to mention Korean internet infrastructure is better than the USA (the entire country is smaller than the sate of Florida so it helps).
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Any info about the vods? Will I have to get HQ to watch them?
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On April 03 2011 21:00 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Is there anywhere I can actually find out wtf is going on in this tournament? The brackets are fucking bizarre (how did haypro get moved from the open bracket to the groups-_-?), and half the time they are empty.
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Haypro got top 4 from Open bracket so went to Pool play, then after his pool play record ( 1-3 ) was placed in Round 4 of the Loser's Championship Bracket.There he will play the winner from Gretorp / OptikZero match, then will eventually proceed to play Sockeh, then if winning Sjow, then i don't know who.
Just check the Championship Losers bracket here :
http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-dallas-starcraft2-champ.html#
Long road ahead for your teammate, but nothing impossible.
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On April 03 2011 21:33 scrub96 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 20:59 Zaffy wrote:
its funny how people are mntioning 1 game in the GSL. I have watched every gsl for the past 3 months. one or two mouse / headset problems and the dimaga mvp thing which was sorted inside 10 minutes.
MLG issues are taking HOURS to sort out EVERY DAY. the fact you are even comparing the two is laughable. The GSL and the MLG are two very different events. The GSL does not move but once a season (for finals) and has control of every aspect of their facility. Not to mention Korean internet infrastructure is better than the USA (the entire country is smaller than the sate of Florida so it helps).
GSL did manage to put out some games from some kinda ice rink in a amusement park yesterday with no problems, there first time there.
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On April 03 2011 21:28 Dreaming11 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2011 21:03 tdt wrote:On April 03 2011 19:54 SKtheAnathema wrote:On April 03 2011 19:48 pirates wrote:On April 03 2011 19:43 SKtheAnathema wrote:
in-game chatting is now banned during sc2 tournaments. poker players are no longer able to make eye contact or talk to each other in case it throws other players off of their game. mma fighters are no longer able to give furrowed eyebrow looks of intimidation before or during rounds and must say gg before tapping out.
why are people being fgts? especially for idra of all people? it stated in most every tournaments' rules in game chatting beyond 'gl hf, gg or pp' is not allowed. it should remain this way and rules should be respected and enforced. but why? unless a good case actually comes up from harmless chatter, it's a stupid rule being rightfully ignored. if anything, rewrite the rule to be more specific. e.g. no unsportmanslike conduct or rude behavior. (which huk doesn't qualify for). otherwise, people are just being bitches and mad idra lost. Passive aggression is sometimes worse than telling someone to fuck off. Dont even act like HuK wasnt trying to get in IdrA's head. I loved it though. Trash talk is all in good fun and done in every sport. What I don't like is IdrA's BM & QQ after game over. Dude is wound too tight. I agree IdrA gets too wound up, but he's got a lot of pressure on him. I mean just watch the day[9] dailies - he's got sick and vomited in a lot of his tourneys. I think IdrAs problem seems to be putting on a cool 'stageface' because of course anyone who is as devoted as the progamers to SC2 is going to be flipping out with stress (except maybe Dimaga and WhiteRa, lol), it's just a natural chemical reaction. He needs to work on either chilling out or dealing with it so it doesn't get in the way of his game - we've seen over and over how players do play off their ability to get IdrA on tilt. Then again, feel a bit bad for him, because despite being a pretty godly player mechanics wise, he gets a lot of flack in the community for having no skill and so on because of the way he acts when he does get on tilt. He gets more than his fair share of the spotlight compared to the other progamers, and I'm not sure he copes well with it.
I'm sorry but that's got nothing to do with being impolite, rude, unsportive. If you lose in a tourney, you gg. If you get a gg gl hf in a tourney, you answer. If you're asked about a rival, you don't say it's gonna be a walkover. If you get trolled, you don't just tell the guy to fuck off. If you don't like the balance of the game you don't blame the ones that play the races that Blizzard has enabled to be played.
If you don't do those things, the community can only talk about how good you are, which is a lot in the case of Idra. Moreover, if you don't do those things you'll probably get better asome aspects of your play.
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