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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4761
On April 03 2011 06:21 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:20 turamn wrote:

Sundance DiGiovanni
MLG_Sundance
@Me nope - people are typing ******* to add to the fire. it's not filtered. never has been.

@MLG_Sundance so if i go type dispute right now you promise me it wont be filtered

- create new post, type 'dispute' it's filtered.

welcome to shit storm city, mlg.


What does dispute means?

Pardon my bad english.


Kinda means arguement or quarrel. More polite way of saying it.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Bloodzz
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia15 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4762
On April 03 2011 06:20 mountchockula wrote:
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LOLOLOL
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politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4763
On April 03 2011 06:23 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
With what they said is its not a MLG issue or an Blizzard issue, its an issue with some of the ISPs/Infrastructure along the way.

and of course, yes lan mode would fix this problem, but blizzard doesn't want to be seen as weak and cave to any demands. Much like the government refuses to negotiate with terrorists, blizzard refuses to negotiate with its customers.

In all seriousness it does astonish me that blizz hasn't resolved these problems either by giving MLG lan mode, or bringing some bnet servers in semi trucks to the events like they did for WoW Arena. Dream hack had an interesting way of guaranteeing bandwidth, but its not practical for MLG to do the same thing since they move around every time and the cost of getting a dedicated line to somewhere they know wouldn't have routing issues to the Bnet Servers for each of the venues is simply too high. The only reason DreamHack could do it is because they knew there were making a serious infrastructure investment that they will continue to use at every DreamHack from now on.

At the end of the day Blizzard is the only party that could take action to resolve these issues.


LOL
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4764
On April 03 2011 06:21 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:20 turamn wrote:

Sundance DiGiovanni
MLG_Sundance
@Me nope - people are typing ******* to add to the fire. it's not filtered. never has been.

@MLG_Sundance so if i go type dispute right now you promise me it wont be filtered

- create new post, type 'dispute' it's filtered.

welcome to shit storm city, mlg.


What does dispute means?

Pardon my bad english.


To disagree or have a disagreement or to challenge something.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4765
I've been able to effectively grind my character from level 10 to level 44 in the original Dragon Warrior in the downtime. I love mlG!
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 02 2011 21:24 GMT
#4766
On April 03 2011 06:21 Darpa wrote:
I dont understand how they can have internet problems in one area of the venue but not in the halo or call of duty sections. ANyone shed some light on this?


are those other games played with lan?
zYwi3c
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland1811 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4767
On April 03 2011 06:23 desderak wrote:
when is 4.45 CT? in CET or GMT plz!


23:45 in CET
I'm getting the derection.
ifonlyiwereawsum
Profile Joined November 2010
United States484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 21:25:31
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4768
Askjoshy fooled me. >.>
LiquidSnute // Zai //
naut1c
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria100 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4769
On April 03 2011 06:23 starcraft2leverage wrote:
stream will return at 4:45 ct, so 20 minutes or so


stream returns in 20 minutes, with 2hours of talking, 30 minutes of advertisement, and one map pausing at the 2minute mark, continuing with wheat on his phone again
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4770
On April 03 2011 06:24 adeezy wrote:
How many games have they actually played and casted so far? In total today and yesterday

I think 3 yesterday + 1 today, i think that makes it in total 4. Atleast more then total amount of HD passes i will buy from them this year
Gör om, gör rätt
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4771
On April 03 2011 06:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:14 taLbuk wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:12 Jiddra wrote:
It's MLGs fault, Sundance said on state of the game that they can't afford real internet for this events. They buy cheap and hopes it works. MLG is kind of broke and a bit unstable.


He said they don't have enough money to roll in a satelitte truck, the point is they use the convention center internet, you can't blame MLG entirely.


Wait wait. Wait. Hold the phone.

They are using convention center Internet???

I don't know much, but I have been to a few convention centers in my time, many in the US. Convention center Internet is always, without fail, incredibly bad. They always say it's good but it never is.

There's really no excuse for not knowing this and not preparing for it.


We have to remember that MLG Sundance is the CEO of MLG, and his excuse (always) is that there is never enough money. Yet, when we see his mug on TV with the shot of "20 million dollars" and the advertisers he has, we don't really connect the dots. How can you screw up so many years in row, at the same venue? Don't you think that's a bit disconcerting?
Seldon
Profile Joined March 2011
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 21:26:30
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4772
On April 03 2011 06:02 LloydRays wrote:
isn't it possible for blizzard to like set aside some server racks just for the tourney considering they know a bunch of connections will be coming out of dallas? any IT to comment on this?


It's not a matter of server racks. In fact inside Blizzard's datacenter everything is probably 1000X more awesome than anything MLG can put together for their lan: I figure 5000 EUR servers with raid, awesome cooling, cisco switches, a really good contingency plan for accidents, etc.

The problem is in the tubes, between blizzard and MLG there's probably a dozen of routers and kilometers of unguarded infrastructure sitting in the middle, and the quality of the maintenance on those routers is very bad. You just need one of those ISP's to shut down a router for maintenance (which happens a lot, cause big routers have complex operating systems that need frequent updating) and if there's not redundancy at that point in the route (by mistake or by incompetence) then you get downtime. MLG could try to hire a more direct route, basically they would have to contact any of the carriers that service Blizzard's datacenter and negotiate something with them. Doing this for every city where MLG goes, however, would be incredibly expensive. Blizzard would be in a better position to pressure their carriers, though, to give them better routes to the ISPs that service MLG, I could see that working, so people should not lose hope in that sense. Infrastructure is getting better all the time and the new hardware is very good at redundancy, no-lan could be a non-issue in a couple of years.

But maybe the problem is software related, as in: huge memory leaks on the Battle.net server that cause occasional crashes, in which case, yes, a separate server instance would help. This is not typical from Blizzard, however, but this is Activision now so the quality of coding may be lower, who knows.

In short, although it looks like Blizzard will have to do LAN eventually, something tells me they will try to work around it without doing LAN first.

source: I've worked in datacenter and ISP infrastructure stuff
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4773
this thread needs some rebecca black to cheer the crowd up:


and this amazing remix that I've been listening to on repeat for the past 3 hours:
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4774
It'll be back up in 20 minutes apparently.
jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4775
On April 03 2011 06:22 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:14 taLbuk wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:12 Jiddra wrote:
It's MLGs fault, Sundance said on state of the game that they can't afford real internet for this events. They buy cheap and hopes it works. MLG is kind of broke and a bit unstable.


He said they don't have enough money to roll in a satelitte truck, the point is they use the convention center internet, you can't blame MLG entirely.


Wait wait. Wait. Hold the phone.

They are using convention center Internet???

I don't know much, but I have been to a few convention centers in my time, many in the US. Convention center Internet is always, without fail, incredibly bad. They always say it's good but it never is.

There's really no excuse for not knowing this and not preparing for it.



wow...no wonder...
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4776
I don't understand something. Stream is working and showing audience, Grubby and DDE are playing their match just not on main stage. We were watching Dj Wheat and JP talking for hours... and they have internet problems? /confused
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4777
Watching console gaming is like watching the special Olympics... Halo 4tl
x-Catalyst
Profile Joined August 2010
United States921 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4778
On April 03 2011 06:22 jazzbassmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:20 x-Catalyst wrote:
Not whining at all but, it seems like you guys are watching random things on other streams. I am getting a black screen on all the streams. Is this how it is for everyone or is it just on my end?


Im also getting a black screen

Okay, just making sure. Thanks.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4779
On April 03 2011 06:17 riboflavin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:16 OSWater wrote:
Poll: Who sabotaged MLG?

Some guy named Steve keeps stepping on the internet line and wont tell anyone so it lags a lot now. (69)
 
30%

Colonel Mustard in the hall with the knife (67)
 
29%

The Illuminati (36)
 
16%

Al Qaeda (31)
 
13%

Godzilla (29)
 
13%

232 total votes

Your vote: Who sabotaged MLG?

(Vote): Colonel Mustard in the hall with the knife
(Vote): Al Qaeda
(Vote): The Illuminati
(Vote): Godzilla
(Vote): Some guy named Steve keeps stepping on the internet line and wont tell anyone so it lags a lot now.



best.poll.ever.

+1
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
mousepad
Profile Joined April 2010
United States136 Posts
April 02 2011 21:25 GMT
#4780
On April 03 2011 06:14 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 06:10 SpiZe wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:10 zYwi3c wrote:
On April 03 2011 06:08 keeblur wrote:
Poll: Who do you blame for this mess?

MLG (217)
 
69%

Blizzard (69)
 
22%

Dallas (29)
 
9%

315 total votes

Your vote: Who do you blame for this mess?

(Vote): Blizzard
(Vote): MLG
(Vote): Dallas



Why would u blame blizzard ? MLG connection is a big failure, bnet is working fine.


No LAN support.


Sure, we all want LAN support.

The service that Blizzard provides (battle.net) is actually working fine though. You can't blame them for MLG's internet.


Setting up a good internet connection for every Starcraft 2 computer is one more hoop in about a hundred that MLG has to go through every time they move from one convention center to the next.

No, we can't blame battlenet for MLG's internet, we can blame them for adding one more hoop.
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