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loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4301

On April 03 2011 05:51 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:49 mango_destroyer wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:47 Risen wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:45 freetgy wrote:
HT Suck, Gateway Suck, DT Suck

everyone already stated it here Protoss needs to get Colossus unless they want to lose, pretty sad gamedesign.

upgraded Gateway Units stand no chance against unupgraded M&M
and also in the major battle it was even supply.
But as we was able to see, even with Blink Stalker/Charge Zealots Sentrys Gateway Units stay Useless.

very good gamedesign indeed.


Where are the mods? Seriously.

What gateway units are you talking about? I didn't see jack shit in terms of a ground army from Grubby. I saw him teching hard PRAYING terran would sit back and just contain.

Praying doesn't win you games.


I don`t understand the imba talks either. Especially the last game. DDE had 3 bases and took out Grubbys 3rd.

Grubby decides to get DTs and high temps off 2 base... LOL. Sorry but templars are just about worthless when there is no gateways units to support.

They aren't imba talks, they're gamedesign talks. He's not whining about imba, he's saying that P needs to go Colossus in order to stay even/ahead. I'd agree.

But the notion that grubby lost cause of his unit composition is ridiculous
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
tetracycloide
Profile Joined July 2010
295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:57:48
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4302
On April 03 2011 05:41 Duoma wrote:
Grubby stayed gateway heavy for way too long. Have to at least have a few immortals against all those marauders.

I think attempting to go to HTs on two bases rather than robo units likely lost him the game.

It's fine to stay gateway heavy when you have a huge upgrade advantage as long as your macro is even with your opponent and you're being aggressive with them. Terran bio seems to scale better with food than gateway units, however, likely because stalkers are bigger than rines or mauraders and zealots are melee. That doesn't mean it's not viable to stay on gateways for so long though you just have to constantly be engaging and taking advantage of Protoss's superior ability to disengage or to chase down retreating units (once you have blink and leg speed). Adel's game in the TSL is a really good example of how to make it work. Grubby's play here is a really good example of how to make it look like it's impossible to stay gateway vs. barracks that long when that's really not true at all.
My vanity is justified
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4303
On April 03 2011 05:54 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:52 nodule wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:45 Shodaa wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:43 nodule wrote:
It was a bad build. +2/+3 attack ups are /really/ expensive and don't do a hell of a lot with only gateway units.

Add DT and HT tech to that, off two base???


what ? double forge build are really strong. Tyler has been doing that for a while with some success. But I think Grubby should have went collossus.


I didn't say double forge builds are weak. But rushing the +3 upgrades while behind in army count, while teching to HT and DTs is weak.

Stalkers only get 8.3% more dps against marines and 6.6% against marauders for the +3 upgrade (against 0 armor)




Stop talking about the unit comps in that game. Grubby lost it after he pulled probes to defend the first attack by DDE. He was playing from behind after that.

behind and lost are not the same thing.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
mcbrite
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany229 Posts
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4304
The Pro Circuit Stream is now finished for the evening. The Halo: Reach stream is still going strong- switch over to watch all the rest of the night's live action! The Black Ops and StarCraft 2 stream are now re-streaming today's broadcast.

lol, wtf???!?!?
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4305
This is really deterring a lot of new potential SC2 fans... just imagine someone new trying to watch a game... no wonder western e-sports is so far behind
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
April 02 2011 20:56 GMT
#4306
On April 03 2011 05:56 Coolwhip wrote:
I'd love it if the commentators would get up and say 'Ok, thats it. I'm outta here!'


That would be awesome, so Day9 would come on we could have a good laugh at trumpets or something like this.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4307
goodbye mlg, the worst event possible
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4308
The StarCraft 2 stream is currently inactive. Stay tuned.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4309
Describe your experience watching the MLG Dallas this year:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


And when it resumes you may or may not actually see a match in the following 1-2 hours.

Thanks for the 10$ =D
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6178 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4310
The StarCraft 2 stream is currently inactive. Stay tuned.

i quit , i'll watch palyer stream
n_n
ChatimentZ
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium227 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4311
stay tuned momentarily
sup son
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4312
On April 03 2011 05:56 branflakes14 wrote:
[image loading]


lol, you're a killer, man
zolii
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland141 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4313
The StarCraft 2 stream is currently inactive. Stay tuned.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4314
On April 03 2011 05:55 stevarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:54 Nadrav wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:49 Magashi wrote:
"The whining is really getting old guys. Stop. This will be your only warning."

-Read

the whining is the only thing we have. If it weren't for these forums and the hilarious posts that resulted from the tournament I wouldn't still be watching.


This this this. I've been entertained so much. I laughed for 3 straight hours from TL posts in the MLG Day 1 thread then got absolutely hammered after we all gave up trying to watch the games.

Was a fun night. If the TL community has to suffer for trying to entertain ourselves in the face of epic fail on behalf of MLG, then that's quite dumb.

I couldnt agree more.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
ArturosII
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia54 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4315
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-addresses-site-stability-issues
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy but I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
SH1N0K
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4316
I think this is the point when blizz realizes how important the support for lan games is in sc2. Players should never have to deal with this. They should be able to practice with lan and play tournaments with lan.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4317
On April 03 2011 05:56 branflakes14 wrote:
[image loading]


Only for MLG, it's going awesome everywhere else apparently
Logic is Overrated
LokitAK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan90 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4318
My favorite part is when their commercial breaks last two hours.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4319
On April 03 2011 05:55 TheRPGAddict wrote:
I wonder if they will show the Axslav Destiny games....... Doubt it.

Through all my years of watching MLG, never ever have they streamed a non-scheduled game. So no.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
April 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#4320
I wish I was drunk atm.
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