EPTOn March 27 2011 07:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Vods will be up later.
edit: no replays being released.
Vods will be up later.
edit: no replays being released.
Later as in later today or sometime over the weekend?
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
Later as in later today or sometime over the weekend? | ||
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iExtrapolate
United States4 Posts
Considering that this is a tournament with a 5 figure prize pool and there is no way for the commentators to detect a map hacker, it is not without reason to assume that, in this tournament, they could exist. I think, for the sake of the legitimacy of this tournament, the replays from this series should be watched from Naniwa's vision to determine whether or not he map hacked. While I agree that it may be a little rash to outright accuse Naniwa of map hacking, it would be naive to just assume, that in all of those circumstances it was his intuition that prepared him for those non obvious attacks. User was banned for this post. | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2611 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:56 Darpa wrote: Have you seen crunchers PvZ? Its pretty good. Yesterday he 4-0'd strifecro. I would be suprised if Idra won to be honest. Although its heavily dependant on map and positions. I would not compare IdrA to StrifeCro. Even tho I have very much respect for Top NA players, StrifeCro is not even in the Top30 Foreigner Zergs imho. And IdrA is like #1 or #2 or #3 (dunno exactly  ). | ||
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allowicious
United States972 Posts
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greycubed
United States615 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:54 {ToT}ColmA wrote: Some are saying it's great to have more than just Korea in the competition now, and others are blaming it on lag. lets see what the korean community has to say bout this tsl ^^; | ||
Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:58 iExtrapolate wrote: There were many moments in the game in which Naniwa repositioned his units to prepare for an attack at a non obvious position immediately before an attack occurred. Some people in this thread claim that this was purely intuition, but because the time at which the drop occurred and the time at which the stalkers were moved to position in which they could defend the drop was so close, if there were no map hacks, there was obviously a lot of luck involved. So the two explanations for the random preparedness of Naniwa are either that he has a great intuition and got lucky at several different times in the series or that he map hacked. Considering that this is a tournament with a 5 figure prize pool and there is no way for the commentators to detect a map hacker, it is not without reason to assume that, in this tournament, they could exist. I think, for the sake of the legitimacy of this tournament, the replays from this series should be watched from Naniwa's vision to determine whether or not he map hacked. While I agree that it may be a little rash to outright accuse Naniwa of map hacking, it would be naive to just assume, that in all of those circumstances it was his intuition that prepared him for those non obvious attacks. Are you serious? | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:58 Dingo22 wrote: All this rage on today's victors is silly. To blame lag for MVP's loss is dumb (Adel is in France, MVP in Korea... both played on NA servers... equal lag). The same holds true in Nestea v. Goody. You haven't read anything in this thread, right? Cause there's loads of posts, one from Jinro, about eu->us having way less lag than kr->us. | ||
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KlaraFall
Germany51 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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peeeky
Canada631 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:58 iExtrapolate wrote: There were many moments in the game in which Naniwa repositioned his units to prepare for an attack at a non obvious position immediately before an attack occurred. Some people in this thread claim that this was purely intuition, but because the time at which the drop occurred and the time at which the stalkers were moved to position in which they could defend the drop was so close, if there were no map hacks, there was obviously a lot of luck involved. So the two explanations for the random preparedness of Naniwa are either that he has a great intuition and got lucky at several different times in the series or that he map hacked. Considering that this is a tournament with a 5 figure prize pool and there is no way for the commentators to detect a map hacker, it is not without reason to assume that, in this tournament, they could exist. I think, for the sake of the legitimacy of this tournament, the replays from this series should be watched from Naniwa's vision to determine whether or not he map hacked. While I agree that it may be a little rash to outright accuse Naniwa of map hacking, it would be naive to just assume, that in all of those circumstances it was his intuition that prepared him for those non obvious attacks. If that was the first game, it was because Ret didn't notice a Zealot at the watchtower and did not kill it. It saw everything coming for quite a long time, shouldn't have been too hard for Nani to do something about it. Big mistake by Ret unfortunately. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
"Terran is pushing in, but zerg has a ton of units streaming in, tons of reinforcements, I don't think terran can defend this, zerg is gonna clean this up... Wow, wait... is terran actually gonna win this? I can't believe this, I don't know how he just defeated the zergs whole army, this is incredible!" Yep. That's a very very familiar feeling Husky.  | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:49 absalom86 wrote: Are you going to join up with Goody and become the second master of METAL of Europe ? Maybe catch some zergs in a triangle and choke them out with the applied pressure of tank shells and thor munitions ? Is it time to flying scissor heel hook a Protoss and twist until he begs to be roasted by blue flames? Hehe, Ive been trying to mech a little again (I mean, Ive never stopped meching completely vs zerg, but its not like how I used to play back in mid 2010 when I only meched), but Im not doing so well with it right now. Dont have any of the timings down, as is to be expected, and Im in terrible shape right now for a whole bunch of reasons. | ||
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qbs
Poland771 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:59 allowicious wrote: Can anyone post some of the recommended games to watch? I was unable to watch it today, and don't have time to go through them all to find the good ones . ALL !!! maybe exept set.2 ret vs nani ( IMO ! ) | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:58 iExtrapolate wrote: There were many moments in the game in which Naniwa repositioned his units to prepare for an attack at a non obvious position immediately before an attack occurred. Some people in this thread claim that this was purely intuition, but because the time at which the drop occurred and the time at which the stalkers were moved to position in which they could defend the drop was so close, if there were no map hacks, there was obviously a lot of luck involved. So the two explanations for the random preparedness of Naniwa are either that he has a great intuition and got lucky at several different times in the series or that he map hacked. Considering that this is a tournament with a 5 figure prize pool and there is no way for the commentators to detect a map hacker, it is not without reason to assume that, in this tournament, they could exist. I think, for the sake of the legitimacy of this tournament, the replays from this series should be watched from Naniwa's vision to determine whether or not he map hacked. While I agree that it may be a little rash to outright accuse Naniwa of map hacking, it would be naive to just assume, that in all of those circumstances it was his intuition that prepared him for those non obvious attacks. If you think about the drop on game 2, he actually SAW the roaches and OLs with a suicide lol-immortal. On the third game, the only possible way that Ret could attack was the backdoor rocks, altho it was indeed weird to see him moving like that, he didnt have his whole army at his backdoor at that point, so he was also prepared for a frontal attack. Just game sense. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:58 iExtrapolate wrote: There were many moments in the game in which Naniwa repositioned his units to prepare for an attack at a non obvious position immediately before an attack occurred. Some people in this thread claim that this was purely intuition, but because the time at which the drop occurred and the time at which the stalkers were moved to position in which they could defend the drop was so close, if there were no map hacks, there was obviously a lot of luck involved. So the two explanations for the random preparedness of Naniwa are either that he has a great intuition and got lucky at several different times in the series or that he map hacked. Considering that this is a tournament with a 5 figure prize pool and there is no way for the commentators to detect a map hacker, it is not without reason to assume that, in this tournament, they could exist. I think, for the sake of the legitimacy of this tournament, the replays from this series should be watched from Naniwa's vision to determine whether or not he map hacked. While I agree that it may be a little rash to outright accuse Naniwa of map hacking, it would be naive to just assume, that in all of those circumstances it was his intuition that prepared him for those non obvious attacks. This is such a stupid post. I guess getting too many cannons when ret took a fast third was just to throw the viewers off then? Ffs... | ||
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:59 chrisolo wrote: I would not compare IdrA to StrifeCro. Even tho I have very much respect for Top NA players, StrifeCro is not even in the Top30 Foreigner Zergs imho. And IdrA is like #1 or #2 or #3 (dunno exactly ). i would go with #1 ^^ | ||
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Ragoo
Germany2773 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:57 Docmedical wrote: The koreans have so many disadvantages coming into this tourny, its no surprise that they are losing. To actually imply that Goody would go into the GSL and destroy everyone (especially TvT) is astounding. I must applaud my fellow forum users for having the balls to say such a misinformed statement. How is it misinformed? Europe has soo many top terrans like Kas, Strelok, Cloud, Sjow, Bratok,... yet noboy is able to stop Goody lately in TvT. in various tournaments (and Goody literally plays every tournament there is). Cloud (who lost his last 14 bo3's against Goody) said lately that Goody has the best TvT in Europe. I would expect him to do very well vs Koreans in TvT, too. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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Dingo22
United States34 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2611 Posts
I guess he is huge troll and big ret fan, who cannot realizing that Naniwas PvZ is topnotch atm (2-1 IdrA, 2-3 Sen, 2-1 ret). | ||
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