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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
March 26 2011 22:48 GMT
#7901
ppl just underrate him cuz he hasn't really won something huge he wins tons of small shit. he's a really good player though.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 26 2011 22:48 GMT
#7902
Just woke up, MVP/Nestea lost!? -_-

Need to check out these vods when they pop up, I still can't believe it.
I <3 Plexa.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
March 26 2011 22:48 GMT
#7903
On March 27 2011 07:43 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:40 Ragoo wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
His mech play is undoubtedly refined, but it's a one-trick pony.


A one trick pony who is top 4 in like 50% of European weekly tournaments and has (arguably) the best TvT in Europe.

Haters gonna hate.

The fact that he can win with good strategies and decisionmaking even tho his mechanics are horrible just makes him such a great player and I love watching him for ingenious moves like in game 3.


A one-trick pony is a one-trick pony, or have we all forgotten Choya and Rain?

I don't hate Goody; pure mech play is my favorite tech path when playing Terran. But constantly leaving himself open to counter-attacks in Game 3? One building would have foiled it, and it never happened. If you move out to make a contain with mech, it's common sense to protect your expansions since you can't bounce back and forth between bases.


He plays nothing like Rain or Choya...
eohs
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States677 Posts
March 26 2011 22:48 GMT
#7904
Just wanna say ADELSCOTT played amazing GREAT job adel hope u keep going bud :D
WELCOME TO THE PARTY
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
March 26 2011 22:49 GMT
#7905
On March 27 2011 07:43 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:40 Ghost-z wrote:
I really believe that the proposed skill gap between the Koreans and the world is much smaller than many of us perceive.

Also a lot of relatively unknown players are grinding their way through TSL qualifiers and GSL code A ready to make a splash on the scene and take over some of the over-rated players.

Quite the opposite, as you can see by this thread alone, the vast majority actually believes Adelscott/Goody/QXC are the better players from the matchups and would do very good in GSL, if anything the proposed skill gap is much bigger than many of you perceive.

Are you sarcastic, because tone of voice doesn't really transfer well in the standard TL font. As I can see by this thread alone, more people blame lag than anything else for the reasons favorites lost. And they were clear favorites according to LB. Nestea is the best Zerg in the world. MVP is considered the best Terran. They lost. Skill gap is smaller than perceived.

END OF STORY.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
March 26 2011 22:49 GMT
#7906
On March 27 2011 07:44 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Goodys TvZ gives me a lot of hope for SC2 - I hope he can show as nice timings TvP as well. It seems that when the right timing is hit, mech can actually have an SC1 like quality (game 3), where a small army can actually do something...

Surprised by the results but if we get more goody TvZ from it, Im not too disappointed. I have had to revise my opinion of goody lately (started with his games vs Dimaga a couple of weeks back in the finals of some tournament).


Are you going to join up with Goody and become the second master of METAL of Europe ? Maybe catch some zergs in a triangle and choke them out with the applied pressure of tank shells and thor munitions ? Is it time to flying scissor heel hook a Protoss and twist until he begs to be roasted by blue flames?
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ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
March 26 2011 22:49 GMT
#7907
On March 27 2011 07:48 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Just woke up, MVP/Nestea lost!? -_-

Need to check out these vods when they pop up, I still can't believe it.


yeah and genius too
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 22:51:21
March 26 2011 22:50 GMT
#7908
Shocking day! Of course in a perfect world there would be no lag but you play with what is given. The games were sloppy at times but very entertaining. I enjoyed my Saturday afternoon other than Ret/Nestear losing wah*: lol.

ps adelscott game on xel'naga was so sweet.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
March 26 2011 22:50 GMT
#7909
On March 27 2011 07:40 Koshi wrote:
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On March 27 2011 07:39 LittLeD wrote:
Next SoTG is gonna be hilarious


Can't wait to hear Incontrol backing up his "99% certain Mvp was going to win".


Yeah incontrol. I remember painuser being like. Well, upgraded(armor) zealots are fucking amazing because they never die. Guess what, they don't. Just ask IMMVP lol.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
March 26 2011 22:50 GMT
#7910
On March 27 2011 07:43 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:40 Ghost-z wrote:
I really believe that the proposed skill gap between the Koreans and the world is much smaller than many of us perceive.

Also a lot of relatively unknown players are grinding their way through TSL qualifiers and GSL code A ready to make a splash on the scene and take over some of the over-rated players.

Quite the opposite, as you can see by this thread alone, the vast majority actually believes Adelscott/Goody/QXC are the better players from the matchups and would do very good in GSL, if anything the proposed skill gap is much bigger than many of you perceive.


That's what I'm saying that foreign players = koreans, or getting very close in SC2.
If "all" foreign players could afford to go to Korea I would bet that Koreans would barely hold half of the code A spots, if that.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 22:51:38
March 26 2011 22:50 GMT
#7911
On March 27 2011 07:44 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Goodys TvZ gives me a lot of hope for SC2 - I hope he can show as nice timings TvP as well. It seems that when the right timing is hit, mech can actually have an SC1 like quality (game 3), where a small army can actually do something...

Surprised by the results but if we get more goody TvZ from it, Im not too disappointed. I have had to revise my opinion of goody lately (started with his games vs Dimaga a couple of weeks back in the finals of some tournament).


Really? I'm actually feeling the opposite about the hope for SC2 watching those games. I mean you got a 1base cheese beating one of the best zerg's, not much can be said about that. But the fact that turtling on 2 bases and predictably pushing mech was so difficult for one of the best zerg's to beat is kinda sad in my opinion. I'd much prefer to see your skilled marine multipronged attacks and excellent control at least.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 22:52:04
March 26 2011 22:50 GMT
#7912
On March 27 2011 07:47 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:44 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Goodys TvZ gives me a lot of hope for SC2 - I hope he can show as nice timings TvP as well. It seems that when the right timing is hit, mech can actually have an SC1 like quality (game 3), where a small army can actually do something...

Surprised by the results but if we get more goody TvZ from it, Im not too disappointed. I have had to revise my opinion of goody lately (started with his games vs Dimaga a couple of weeks back in the finals of some tournament).

He has been playing very well and been a top euro since release, i don't know how people can underrate him so much.

Unfortunately, Goody's mechanics are truly sub-par, barely diamond league level if you ask me (he spent most of game 3 supply blocked at 110 with units queue'd), but he is truly at the top of terrans in terms of decision making.

As many of the pros have said, StarCraft 2 is a much less mechanically based game, and allows for strategy to beat out mechanics. Goody is solid proof of that statement, as he has shown through his results (like it or not, qualifying alone for the TSL counts as some results- plus check his other tournaments) that his decision making beats out the better mechanics of other players. + Show Spoiler +
and conversely, NesTea threw the series away with BAD decision making


I'd love to see the accepted best players in the world adapt to try his style. HINT JINRO <33333333
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
Dartego
Profile Joined January 2011
154 Posts
March 26 2011 22:51 GMT
#7913
If all korean left. It will be another cruftcup, lol.
Kvothe
Profile Joined September 2010
201 Posts
March 26 2011 22:51 GMT
#7914
On March 27 2011 07:47 Dawn11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:31 Kvothe wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:29 Tef wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:24 Kvothe wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:23 Kazzabiss wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:21 Kvothe wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:20 Shika wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:18 Owii wrote:
4 upsets?


Last game was hardly an upset.

I went 3/4 on my liquidbet tonight. Only missed on qxc's game, he has obviously improved by playing in europe.


You are somehow proud you called goody vs nestea, fluke of the century. Go watch some of Goody's matches on gosugamers, and then come back and seriously tell me he is at half the level nestea is.

What? How is he proud for one, and two, whaaaaaat? I also "called" GoOdy over NesTea because I'm smart


No that is called luck, Goody would lose first round in Code A 9 out of 10 times.


You seriously underestimate him. As most of his opponents do if they have never played him before.


I've watched many of his games on gosugamers, I thought he was a low tier amateur then, and I still think he is now. You say under estimated, I say many people watch his games and realize hes bad. I agree with that majority.


so funny how people can call nestea the best zerg in the world, while he is losing to a " bad player" that just make you look hilarious.
of course you see matches from goody getting beaten pretty hard, but only from players who played him like a billion times before - and if the koreans are so confident in their uber-skill to beat non-koreans with no preparation its just their fault and they just deserve to get owned ;-)

btw: i although think that people getting blinded by what they see on the gsl. i mean playing 10hours standard play a day will most likely improve your mechanics but on the other side how often do you think nestea has to play against an only mech terran?

just my thoughts ;-)


Who is calling nestea the best zerg in the world? I don't remember saying that in my post, Goody barely won a best of 3 series against a zerg player facing serious lag as shown by the other Korean matches, I'm assuming he must have as well. And he won because nestea made some huge blunders, not some awesome great play. He meched out and sent some auto repairing scvs with his army, got lucky nestea had zero lings in the third game at a xel naga and lost 15 drones for nothing. Causing him to barely win the game.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
March 26 2011 22:52 GMT
#7915
On March 27 2011 07:49 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:43 ftd.rain wrote:
On March 27 2011 07:40 Ghost-z wrote:
I really believe that the proposed skill gap between the Koreans and the world is much smaller than many of us perceive.

Also a lot of relatively unknown players are grinding their way through TSL qualifiers and GSL code A ready to make a splash on the scene and take over some of the over-rated players.

Quite the opposite, as you can see by this thread alone, the vast majority actually believes Adelscott/Goody/QXC are the better players from the matchups and would do very good in GSL, if anything the proposed skill gap is much bigger than many of you perceive.

Are you sarcastic, because tone of voice doesn't really transfer well in the standard TL font. As I can see by this thread alone, more people blame lag than anything else for the reasons favorites lost. And they were clear favorites according to LB. Nestea is the best Zerg in the world. MVP is considered the best Terran. They lost. Skill gap is smaller than perceived.

END OF STORY.


Skill gap can't be accurately measured by these matches as multiple koreans have stated that they went/plan to go less micro intesive builds just cause of the latency.

NOT END OF STORY.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
March 26 2011 22:52 GMT
#7916
I play mech exclusively TvZ and it's certainly viable.
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ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
March 26 2011 22:52 GMT
#7917
OMG I feel asleep during MVP's first game and woke up during Rets game I cant believe I missed these upsets live
LiOn
Profile Joined December 2002
Austria239 Posts
March 26 2011 22:53 GMT
#7918
Was a really great day of watching TSL again, cant wait for the the coming up games tomorrow.

Wonder how naniwa saw the backdoor roaches of ret in game 3 :O
진지해? ^_^
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
March 26 2011 22:53 GMT
#7919
I think there're many people in this situation :

[image loading]

But epic series, srsly, it's even better than GSL !

User was warned for this post
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 26 2011 22:53 GMT
#7920
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