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EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2461
Hmmm. I really like Husky's point. SC2 really does forgive mechanics and favor the strategical aspect.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2462
Alright guys stop mocking genius's 'lag'.
I know this thread has been frustrating but let's not make it worse.
nigritude
Profile Joined July 2010
83 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2463
On March 27 2011 04:31 diskolauch wrote:
the casters are so annoying


+1

User was banned for this post.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2464
On March 27 2011 04:31 Baby_Seal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:27 ndrew! wrote:
DAMN THE LAG, IT PREVENTS GENIUS FROM GETTING EXPOS AND ANY UPGRADES !


Lol, well said.


On March 27 2011 04:31 CongoJack wrote:
So lame how the foreigners won't get the credit they deserve because people will just blame lag for the Koreans losing.


100% true !
DeMusliM !!!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2465
On March 27 2011 04:31 Phaint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: < Xel'Naga Caverns (Crossmap Spawns Only) >
[image loading]
(P)MVP_Genius 0 vs 1 [image loading] (T)FXO.qxc

QXC spawns as Red Terran @7
Genius spawns as Blue Protoss @ 1


Thank god its only cross map on this map!!!

I know, my bad. MoonBear do bad. MoonBear fix. MoonBear feel stupid. ^^;
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2466
I'm still finding it odd that the koreans have not been playing well in this tournament except for OGS.MC I guess....
GreeneDragon
Profile Joined March 2011
Cuba16 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2467
Can't really see lag with that Phoenix micro by Genius. Anyway let's ignore race/origin and just see everyone as lovers of SC2, and TSL3 I'm tired of hearing korean/foreigner talk. We all love the game no need to bring that kind of thing into it.
If you have a choice of two things, and can't decide - take both.
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2468
On March 27 2011 04:29 Scila wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:27 Owii wrote:
Genius was 0/0/0 for 90% of the game because of lag right?


Lag leads to FRUSTRATION which leads to focusing on the lag, forgetting things, getting demoralized etc, which can easily lead to playing quite differently from your actual level.

l.o.l.

Good job making excuses for everything. Mindset is their own damn problem. You can't just point at everything and start screaming lag. If you forget such basic things for so long because of "frustration" you aren't made for tournaments.
"If you can chill, chill." -Liquid`Tyler "Special tactics." -White-Ra
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2469
It wasn't that good of a time in BW? It was and still is the best time ever! Most amazing games and moments in esports imo, though I do love the uniting of the SC2 community.
kidleader
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)233 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2470
On March 27 2011 04:30 Woony wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:28 kidleader wrote:
"It's so laggy that Genius's expansion is 5 minutes late"


Hahaha. Seriously, why watch if you're just going to complain about lag when a Korean loses? Obviously it's an issue, but just enjoy.


It's sarcasm obviously


Because I was clearly responding to that poster after laughing at his joke T_T

Tokyo Seoul London New York \\ SlayerS, KT
invrnc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2471
It really, really bothers me how the commentators are stressing "foreigners can take down Koreans" without addressing the lag issue. It might be significant, it may not. But without even bringing up the possibility, it's unfair. For people who are watching the TSL without having seen the GSL for example, will think that Koreans are bad, have no micro, and have poor mechanics.

While lag obviously has no impact on Genius' ability to click upgrades, it does have an effect on mentality, and on the calculations he does in his head. If you know that with micro, X zealot/stalker/sentry beats Y marine/marauder, but you can't micro, what happens? The game is very different when you can't micro. Do I think Genius' poor play is solely because of lag? No, qxc played a solid, solid game. But I'm not ready to make the claim "qxc >>>>>>>>>>>>> Genius".
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2472
On March 27 2011 04:32 Towni wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:28 Logros wrote:
Wow Genius has the same problems as MVP!!! He also can't UPGRADE and expand because of lag OMFG!!!111!1!


This!

And it all came down to qxc's drops in the early game where he evened up the worker count and took his 3rd.

yeah there must be a 10 minute delay at least, getting your forge at 21:00
dr Helvetica <3
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2473
On March 27 2011 04:30 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:29 Scila wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:27 Owii wrote:
Genius was 0/0/0 for 90% of the game because of lag right?


Lag leads to FRUSTRATION which leads to focusing on the lag, forgetting things, getting demoralized etc, which can easily lead to playing quite differently from your actual level.

Wow really?
CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE KOREANS!!!

And i repeat myself to support this.

They could have trained 1-2 days on NA, to get used to lag.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2474
I wouldn't be taking TSL has the end all be all of where the world stands at the moment.

Until we see the best players play at a LAN event where everyone is on equal footing, it's up in the air. IEM is the most recent telling. The World Championships are coming up.
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2475
On March 27 2011 04:32 Jibba wrote:
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On March 27 2011 04:28 Namu wrote:

They played bad, no where near their level in GSL...

It could also be that they haven't taken their opponent seriously and are getting punished for it.

It's probably easier to get AdelScott, Thorzain and qxc replays than it is to get them from FD, MVP and Genius, but my guess is that only one side put in the effort.

That's what I thought. Genius was always a very confident player, and after having Code A Ace absolutely destroy the IEM it wouldn't be surprising if they underestimated their (to them) unknown opponents.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2476
Husky is wrong in one respect. Foreigners were not completely dominated in SC1 during the initial progaming days with foreigners beating Korean progamers in Korea and doing pretty well. SC2 is just starting everyone has an equal footing similar to SC1 progaming when it was just starting, but also foreigners are prepared to play the game professionally when SC2 came out.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2477
On March 27 2011 04:32 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:30 kNyTTyM wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:29 tofucake wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:28 CongoJack wrote:
Wow Adel nice comeback.

1) What?
2) You're soooooo far behind the cast


lag


im sure lag is a factor but mvps decision to attack adels main at the end of game was really bad, losing that army + his meds cost him the game.. if he didnt it would have been a sure win


well I was referring to him being like 10 minutes behind in the cast. But thanks for chiming in
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2478
ping 201 from US to Seoul, so not too bad for me
coldonthecob
Profile Joined February 2011
47 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2479
I laughing at all the ass pained fanboys making up excuses for their precious Korean players. deal with it.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2480
yay DT's
it's been too long
I have no quote!
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