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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2481
On March 27 2011 04:33 stormchaser wrote:
I'm still finding it odd that the koreans have not been playing well in this tournament except for OGS.MC I guess....


Cause MC is a beast. Just a beast.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2482
On March 27 2011 04:32 mistax wrote:
GSL WORLDCHAMPIONSHIP WHERE NO LAG IS INVOLVE AND FOREIGNER GETTING DESTROYYEED

not only gsl. Basically every lan event. IEM Global Finals, Kaspersky Invitational etc etc.
No carpal tunnel no skill
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2483
On March 27 2011 04:33 xza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:31 Lann555 wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:30 EnderCraft wrote:
I want to see the Korean reaction to the amazing foreigner play. Someone go on the K-SC2 community sites and do some translating


It's pretty much the same as here probably

1/3th blames lag
1/3th thinks MVP is an overrated tool
1/3th is trying to troll the first 2/3th


1/4th talking about how awesome foreigners are ;D


They fit in the troll 1/3rd.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hehe
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2484
This thread is so hilarious. People complain about obvious lag in the MVP/Adel series (given MVP might have lost regardless), so then to prove the point that it wasn't the lag, the people arguing against it use a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MATCH to prove that MVP didn't lose because of lag, by pointing out Genius's upgrades. Wtf? lol.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2485
On March 27 2011 04:32 monkey5476 wrote:
It doesn't matter what sort of silly logic you use: 400 ms ping is completely unplayable.


Cite your source for 400 ms?
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2486
On March 27 2011 04:32 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:28 Namu wrote:

They played bad, no where near their level in GSL...

It could also be that they haven't taken their opponent seriously and are getting punished for it.

It's probably easier to get AdelScott, Thorzain and qxc replays than it is to get them from FD, MVP and Genius, but my guess is that only one side put in the effort.


Ye, I think thats the main thing playing here. Starcraft has always been largely about dedication/preperation. Showing up with no plan and thinking you can half-ass your way through a game only works if you are massively better then your opponent. And although I think Koreans are a bit betterr...they aren't that much better that they can play at 50% and still win

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hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2487
2 reapers is gonna scout this
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2488
On March 27 2011 04:32 imbs wrote:
i like how you idiots conveniently forget how the recent tournament (where there was no lag whatsoever) went. is it really so hard to see how qxc, not even a good foreigner, is winning against genius?


Genius was 1/0. QXC was 2/2, 3/3 by the end. How can you possibly blame lag for that game-deciding discrepancy? Especially when Genius was capable of picking up ~10 units simultaneously after the big battle.
siewkeat
Profile Joined October 2010
282 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2489
On March 27 2011 04:32 imbecile wrote:
Anyone blaming lag for Korean problems/bad micro: MC won his games with godlike micro. I find it hard to believe that MC has a better connection than all other Koreans.


MC won when he push with 3 gates and his opponent have like 3 lings
he needed to go colossus void where he can 1a forward in the 2nd game

MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2490
On March 27 2011 04:32 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: < Xel'Naga Caverns >
[image loading]
(P)MVP_Genius 0 vs 1 [image loading] (T)FXO.qxc

QXC spawns as Red Terran @7
Genius spawns as Blue Protoss @ 1

2:30
Genius going for 10-gate-gas. QXC being very cautious and scouts for proxies a lot before scouting the Protoss main. QXC with 10-gas-rax.

4:30
Genius on 1 gate and building a twilight council at the bottom of his base. 1-base DTs incoming!

QXC with 3-rax techlabs I believe. QXC with 2 reapers. How interesting.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
March 26 2011 19:34 GMT
#2491
Reapers against DT build.... interesting.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Glemdening
Profile Joined April 2010
Bulgaria70 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2492
Thank you Tastless and Artossis for really knowing how to hype up players that actually suck or are as standard as a normal masters player on ladder. You really are good comentatiors (no irony honest!). Genious is actually bad, he was bad even at Blizzcon. And for the people that argue its all lag i say SUCK IT UP! Everyone has lag!
No brain, no pain
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2493
On March 27 2011 04:34 imareaver3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:32 imbs wrote:
i like how you idiots conveniently forget how the recent tournament (where there was no lag whatsoever) went. is it really so hard to see how qxc, not even a good foreigner, is winning against genius?


Genius was 1/0. QXC was 2/2, 3/3 by the end. How can you possibly blame lag for that game-deciding discrepancy? Especially when Genius was capable of lifting up ~10 units simultaneously after the big battle.

Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2494
On March 27 2011 04:31 Phaint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: < Xel'Naga Caverns (Crossmap Spawns Only) >
[image loading]
(P)MVP_Genius 0 vs 1 [image loading] (T)FXO.qxc

QXC spawns as Red Terran @7
Genius spawns as Blue Protoss @ 1


Thank god its only cross map on this map!!!

ROFL
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2495
Looks like the build he's been practicing against Whire-Ra
<3
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2496

On March 27 2011 04:30 Ulargg wrote:
ping to us server from seoul;

Target Name: us.logon.battle.net
IP: 12.129.206.130
Date/Time: 27-3-2011 4:29:17 to 27-3-2011 4:29:44

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 21 0 0.0 0 25 1 [218.55.109.1]
2 21 0 0.0 0 85 5 [211.207.112.249]
3 21 0 0.0 0 64 5 [58.229.28.129]
4 21 0 0.0 0 81 7 [58.229.31.101]
5 21 0 0.0 0 26 2 [58.229.28.13]
6 21 0 0.0 1 22 4 [175.126.127.1]
7 21 0 0.0 1 18 1 [118.221.7.34]
8 21 0 0.0 1 53 3 [58.229.14.246]
9 21 0 0.0 1 58 6 pos2-3.cr02.seo01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.149.109]
10 21 0 0.0 175 233 178 TenGE12-1.br02.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.50.126]
11 21 0 0.0 139 202 142 [192.205.35.145]
12 21 0 0.0 140 217 148 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.34]
13 21 0 0.0 140 202 147 cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]
14 21 0 0.0 139 188 145 gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
15 21 0 0.0 140 212 146 [12.122.255.74]
16 21 0 0.0 140 273 154 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]

Which is playable...

Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2497
On March 27 2011 04:29 Scila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:27 Owii wrote:
Genius was 0/0/0 for 90% of the game because of lag right?


Lag leads to FRUSTRATION which leads to focusing on the lag, forgetting things, getting demoralized etc, which can easily lead to playing quite differently from your actual level.

so true...
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2498
Reapers gonna scout darkshrine, omg O.o
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2499
On March 27 2011 04:32 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:28 Namu wrote:

They played bad, no where near their level in GSL...

It could also be that they haven't taken their opponent seriously and are getting punished for it.

It's probably easier to get AdelScott, Thorzain and qxc replays than it is to get them from FD, MVP and Genius, but my guess is that only one side put in the effort.


Clearly, they might all have gone into those matchs thinking it was already won and only thinking about their next matchs against koreans.

I also think that Genius is not the best protoss out there.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 26 2011 19:35 GMT
#2500
On March 27 2011 04:34 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:32 monkey5476 wrote:
It doesn't matter what sort of silly logic you use: 400 ms ping is completely unplayable.


Cite your source for 400 ms?


FXO guy posted earlier in the thread. He played from Korea
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