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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2441
I'm gonna go out and just say it, but from the looks of things, MC > koreans. Might be wrong though. MC just seems like he's on a different level than the rest of his countrymen.
PHC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States472 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2442
On March 27 2011 04:28 Char711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:27 TheDefinition wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:26 PHC wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:24 n00b3rt wrote:
It's so laggy that Genius's expansion is 5 minutes late, and lag also caused mvp to attack mindlessly when being up on army, upgrades, tech and mining bases, thus handing adel the win. Now, as the issue is solved, let's watch white dudes own koreans


Moon's joke at IEM was funny. This however, is not tasteful.

Why?

/agree

This isn't even as bad. Moon's was actually worse, if you want to be technical about it, I think.

The Koreans are simply getting outplayed right now. Surprising, yes, but it's happening.


No. Moon said that for Carmac, who got a lot of flak for saying that in an article he wrote for SK-Gaming. Has nothing to do with race you two are making it out to be. Let's move on and enjoy the games.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2443
On March 27 2011 04:30 Ulargg wrote:
ping to us server from seoul;

Target Name: us.logon.battle.net
IP: 12.129.206.130
Date/Time: 27-3-2011 4:29:17 to 27-3-2011 4:29:44

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 21 0 0.0 0 25 1 [218.55.109.1]
2 21 0 0.0 0 85 5 [211.207.112.249]
3 21 0 0.0 0 64 5 [58.229.28.129]
4 21 0 0.0 0 81 7 [58.229.31.101]
5 21 0 0.0 0 26 2 [58.229.28.13]
6 21 0 0.0 1 22 4 [175.126.127.1]
7 21 0 0.0 1 18 1 [118.221.7.34]
8 21 0 0.0 1 53 3 [58.229.14.246]
9 21 0 0.0 1 58 6 pos2-3.cr02.seo01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.149.109]
10 21 0 0.0 175 233 178 TenGE12-1.br02.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.50.126]
11 21 0 0.0 139 202 142 [192.205.35.145]
12 21 0 0.0 140 217 148 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.34]
13 21 0 0.0 140 202 147 cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]
14 21 0 0.0 139 188 145 gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
15 21 0 0.0 140 212 146 [12.122.255.74]
16 21 0 0.0 140 273 154 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]

Which is playable...



If that is correct for the games they are playing, then lagging is not an excuse for the korean losses. That is more than playable for anyone.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:33:05
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2444
On March 27 2011 04:31 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
The foreigners are all playing fantastically, I love the upgrade-heavy play.


Yeah :D I even liked how qxc played at IEM finals, tbh, his builds just didn't quite work out. Loved the attempt at air play. He's kind of a TLO in that regard but doesn't get half the love

ParkourTerran fighting
mistax
Profile Joined March 2011
United States415 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2445
GSL WORLDCHAMPIONSHIP WHERE NO LAG IS INVOLVE AND FOREIGNER GETTING DESTROYYEED

User was warned for this post
yiNyO
Profile Joined February 2011
132 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2446
qxc is playing from spain
genius from korea

so they are playing on US
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2447
On March 27 2011 04:31 Endorsed wrote:
On what server is this played? Koreans are higher seeded right, so they have the better latency right???


It's on pretty much every page in this thread now.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2448
On March 27 2011 04:28 Char711 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:27 TheDefinition wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:26 PHC wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:24 n00b3rt wrote:
It's so laggy that Genius's expansion is 5 minutes late, and lag also caused mvp to attack mindlessly when being up on army, upgrades, tech and mining bases, thus handing adel the win. Now, as the issue is solved, let's watch white dudes own koreans


Moon's joke at IEM was funny. This however, is not tasteful.

Why?

/agree

This isn't even as bad. Moon's was actually worse, if you want to be technical about it, I think.

The Koreans are simply getting outplayed right now. Surprising, yes, but it's happening.


You know that Carmac, the Polish interviewer and organizer of IEM, made him say that, right?
monkey5476
Profile Joined January 2011
United States133 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2449
It doesn't matter what sort of silly logic you use: 400 ms ping is completely unplayable.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2450
On March 27 2011 04:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: < Xel'Naga Caverns >
[image loading]
(P)MVP_Genius 0 vs 1 [image loading] (T)FXO.qxc

QXC spawns as Red Terran @7
Genius spawns as Blue Protoss @ 1

2:30
Genius going for 10-gate-gas. QXC being very cautious and scouts for proxies a lot before scouting the Protoss main. QXC with 10-gas-rax.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Towni
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria144 Posts
March 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#2451
On March 27 2011 04:28 Logros wrote:
Wow Genius has the same problems as MVP!!! He also can't UPGRADE and expand because of lag OMFG!!!111!1!


This!

And it all came down to qxc's drops in the early game where he evened up the worker count and took his 3rd.
h3aT
Profile Joined November 2010
United States30 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2452
On March 27 2011 04:31 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:30 EnderCraft wrote:
I want to see the Korean reaction to the amazing foreigner play. Someone go on the K-SC2 community sites and do some translating


It's pretty much the same as here probably

1/3th blames lag
1/3th thinks MVP is an overrated tool
1/3th is trying to troll the first 2/3th


This made me lol.

Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2453

LOL, you guys do realize that when you can't use your units to their potential and win battles because of lag then you have to remake your army instead of expanding and upgrading.......
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2454
On March 27 2011 04:31 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:30 EnderCraft wrote:
I want to see the Korean reaction to the amazing foreigner play. Someone go on the K-SC2 community sites and do some translating


It's pretty much the same as here probably

1/3th blames lag
1/3th thinks MVP is an overrated tool
1/3th is trying to troll the first 2/3th


1/4th talking about how awesome foreigners are ;D
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2455
I agree that genius got outplayed there and koreans are way more slack about getting upgrades then koreans, but i cant help but think that the lag is affecting their play/distracting them i think had this been an offline tournament we would see some different results.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2456
On March 27 2011 04:29 Tiax;mous wrote:
Damn I feel bad for TL Crew , they are doing such a great job with this tournament but lag problem is kinda ruining the fun at the moment


No people endlessly bitching and making excuses for why the player they chose lost is kinda ruining the fun.

People this is some great games of SC2, being shown on a great stream with some great casters.

Enjoy it.
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2457
I see a lot of people mentioning the effect of lag on your gameplay if you aren't used to playing in that environment. Let's pretend you're preparing for a match in a tournament with a nice prize pool. You know you will play your opponent on the NA server. Do you:

a.) play on the NA server and get used to playing in that environment

or

b.) play and then blame it on an unfamiliar environment?

Being unfamiliar with an environment is a question of preparation. If you aren't prepared for it, that's your mistake.
PackAttack
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2458
husky and chill make an awesome casting duo
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2459
On March 27 2011 04:30 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:29 Scila wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:27 Owii wrote:
Genius was 0/0/0 for 90% of the game because of lag right?


Lag leads to FRUSTRATION which leads to focusing on the lag, forgetting things, getting demoralized etc, which can easily lead to playing quite differently from your actual level.

Wow really?
CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE KOREANS!!!



there is def some latency, but not the rediculous amount a lot of people are thinking.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
March 26 2011 19:33 GMT
#2460
I think QXC moving to Europe and starting to own proves once again that EU>KR>>>NA.
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