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AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2401
The foreigners are all playing fantastically, I love the upgrade-heavy play.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
hdi
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria9 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2402
On March 27 2011 04:26 Kazzabiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 12:22 FXOpen wrote:
Guys you are talking about delay in seconds.... Let me put it into perspective.

When I was in Korea, ping to NA was 310-410 ms.

Accordingly to someone close to me in korea, since the japan earthquake its now almost double that.

I dont know what the seconds delay or whatever would be... I guess it would depend. But i'd say it effects those micro based players.

Thank god someone finally said this



So if I am correct that would be less than half a second, right? Sorry guys but you can't say MVP lost JUST because of that.
Man is a pupil, pain is his teacher.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2403
On March 27 2011 04:27 ndrew! wrote:
DAMN THE LAG, IT PREVENTS GENIUS FROM GETTING EXPOS AND ANY UPGRADES !

lol, pretty much this. I wish people used their brains more..
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2404
Great to see us foreigners are putting up a fight.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2405
On March 27 2011 04:28 Lann555 wrote:
Fascinating stuff so far. Really shows the power of preperation. The Koreans seem to be going in without any sort of real gameplan. They just dick around a bit and expect to roll some random foreigner. The foreigners are coming with strong builds and clearly know how to exploit their opponent.



no no no it's all the lag
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2406
On what server is this played? Koreans are higher seeded right, so they have the better latency right???
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2407
The words "lag" and "latency" should be wordfiltered to "an excuse for shitty play".

Just think that would be hilarious.
Psycosquirrel
Profile Joined October 2008
United States161 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2408
I don't buy the lag arguments for one second. Both genius and MVP have been outplayed, simple as that. Try to disguise it under the veil of lag all you want, but the results tell the story.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2409
On March 27 2011 04:30 Ulargg wrote:
ping to us server from seoul;

Target Name: us.logon.battle.net
IP: 12.129.206.130
Date/Time: 27-3-2011 4:29:17 to 27-3-2011 4:29:44

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 21 0 0.0 0 25 1 [218.55.109.1]
2 21 0 0.0 0 85 5 [211.207.112.249]
3 21 0 0.0 0 64 5 [58.229.28.129]
4 21 0 0.0 0 81 7 [58.229.31.101]
5 21 0 0.0 0 26 2 [58.229.28.13]
6 21 0 0.0 1 22 4 [175.126.127.1]
7 21 0 0.0 1 18 1 [118.221.7.34]
8 21 0 0.0 1 53 3 [58.229.14.246]
9 21 0 0.0 1 58 6 pos2-3.cr02.seo01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.149.109]
10 21 0 0.0 175 233 178 TenGE12-1.br02.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.50.126]
11 21 0 0.0 139 202 142 [192.205.35.145]
12 21 0 0.0 140 217 148 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.34]
13 21 0 0.0 140 202 147 cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]
14 21 0 0.0 139 188 145 gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
15 21 0 0.0 140 212 146 [12.122.255.74]
16 21 0 0.0 140 273 154 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]

Which is playable...



what about spain to us?
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2410
On March 27 2011 04:30 eNbee wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 27 2011 04:27 PlosionCornu wrote:
Guys, when you have that much latency even you focus starts to dwindle, I know first hand.
You get soo mad about it that you actually forget how to play well, thus forgetting upgrades expansions etc.


I'm not sure if you're joking or not -_-


I was sort of fearing qxc was throwing the game there, after defending the 2base all-in, not emping the phoenixes, he lost a lot more than he should have. Good job hanging in there though.


I assume all games are on the US server again? QXC being in Europe and all. So sort of equal latency, 100-150 range for both. Sounds fair to me.


Kr to US: 350-400
EU to US: 110-170

k
Baby_Seal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States360 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2411
On March 27 2011 04:27 ndrew! wrote:
DAMN THE LAG, IT PREVENTS GENIUS FROM GETTING EXPOS AND ANY UPGRADES !


Lol, well said.
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2412
Lag doesn't cause lack of upgrades, poor expansion timings or strange decision makings.

Honestly, I didn't expect this result at all. Adelscott was amazing and Qxc seems to be delivering us another "upset".
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2413
Koreans with 300 APM, so they're too fast that little lag can cause an issues to them.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:32:19
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2414
On March 27 2011 04:30 Ulargg wrote:
ping to us server from seoul;

Target Name: us.logon.battle.net
IP: 12.129.206.130
Date/Time: 27-3-2011 4:29:17 to 27-3-2011 4:29:44

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 21 0 0.0 0 25 1 [218.55.109.1]
2 21 0 0.0 0 85 5 [211.207.112.249]
3 21 0 0.0 0 64 5 [58.229.28.129]
4 21 0 0.0 0 81 7 [58.229.31.101]
5 21 0 0.0 0 26 2 [58.229.28.13]
6 21 0 0.0 1 22 4 [175.126.127.1]
7 21 0 0.0 1 18 1 [118.221.7.34]
8 21 0 0.0 1 53 3 [58.229.14.246]
9 21 0 0.0 1 58 6 pos2-3.cr02.seo01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.149.109]
10 21 0 0.0 175 233 178 TenGE12-1.br02.lax04.pccwbtn.net [63.218.50.126]
11 21 0 0.0 139 202 142 [192.205.35.145]
12 21 0 0.0 140 217 148 cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.34]
13 21 0 0.0 140 202 147 cr84.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.123.30.249]
14 21 0 0.0 139 188 145 gar5.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.25]
15 21 0 0.0 140 212 146 [12.122.255.74]
16 21 0 0.0 140 273 154 mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242]

Which is playable...


nvm.
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2415
Go qxc ! Go PnzerKing aka GoOdy :D !!!
DeMusliM !!!
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2416
So lame how the foreigners won't get the credit they deserve because people will just blame lag for the Koreans losing.
siewkeat
Profile Joined October 2010
282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-26 19:32:29
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2417
On March 27 2011 04:29 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
Damn i guess lag keeps you from getting upgrades right?


people need to realize if you are losing battles and units that you shouldn't you do not have the premium to get further upgrades and expansions until you rebuild you army

else you would just died straight away
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2418
On March 27 2011 04:29 siewkeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 04:27 Overpowered wrote:
On March 27 2011 04:27 ndrew! wrote:
DAMN THE LAG, IT PREVENTS GENIUS FROM GETTING EXPOS AND ANY UPGRADES !

Exactly!


more like genius has not adapt to play with the lag and go more upgrade and macro without relying too heavy on micro-oriented composition and build



So 2 Base All-ins are micro oriented strategies .. hmmm.

BitByBit.Prime is not terrible, he is just micro oriented, thanks for explaining that to me.
Phaint
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada211 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2419
On March 27 2011 04:31 MoonBear wrote:
Match 2: < Xel'Naga Caverns (Crossmap Spawns Only) >
[image loading]
(P)MVP_Genius 0 vs 1 [image loading] (T)FXO.qxc

QXC spawns as Red Terran @7
Genius spawns as Blue Protoss @ 1


Thank god its only cross map on this map!!!
Shruikan
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal2 Posts
March 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#2420
When were this games played?
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