EPT[NASL] Players (final) - Page 201
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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied. Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't. | ||
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Geo.Rion
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BarnabeJonez
United States23 Posts
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TheAura
96 Posts
He is one of the hardest working people for e-sports, he has proven himself in the past, and he has done so much for esports. Now that he has more time we all know he will practice more and try his absolute best in NASL. Is it too much to give this man, who has done so much more for esports than anyone else who applied, a chance? Show how much we respect what he has done, and he is clearly a good player as he made the first GSL (when others on the list have failed multiple times), and now that he can play again he will be fine. Also i am rather excited to see artosis in league action, every week. He knows so much more about the game than most of the people on the list, and it is exciting to get to se him train and put all his knowledge to use. | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
looks like a good roster though, too bad dimaga applied late, i really wanted to see him in | ||
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DrunkenTemplar
Australia647 Posts
On March 30 2011 22:14 infinity2k9 wrote: Morrow is proven with both far far more than Artosis with both races. All i remember from Artosis in SC2 is he disconnected in a tournament and whined so much that he should have been given a win that he was temp banned. So your argument is now that Artosis is whiny and that should be reason for him not to be accepted lol? There are infinitely more valid arguments than that which you can use against some of the players who were accepted. Also you completely missed my morrow point. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
For example i can't believe he'd get in over say, Mondragon. I have no doubt who i'd put my money on to produce better results in Mondragon vs Artosis regardless of what we have seen so far in SC2. I know theres a million kids who are like OMG TASTOSIS now SC2 has been out but Mondragon as an actual player is even more of a legend. | ||
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CursedFeanor
Canada539 Posts
NASL will be awesome! | ||
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OTIX
Sweden491 Posts
I'm obviously exaggerating a lot here just to explain what I mean. I don't have any real issues with the organization the way it is, as long as it doesn't go any further in that direction. It seems the ro16 matchups are predetermined and not chosen after the fact and really that's the most important thing here. | ||
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
On March 30 2011 18:17 KaveX wrote: I don't think it's about being fair to the players, but about some sort of sportive competition environment. More appropriate than WWE: "series of showmatches". For long-term success, the NASL has to make sure that the league is more than just hundreds of showmatches with a high prize-money pool. This is something many SC2 events have been lacking. Just take the World Cyber Games or the ESL Pro Series: One is clearly set up to be like the olympics, with nationality playing an important role, having qualifiers in lots of countries and having a somewhat equal distribution where no country can get more than three slots. The other is a national league with a big substructure and its winner can definitely call himself the national champion, noone would disagree. Can the winner of a tournament with 50 of the world's best players invited without any formalized selection process call himself world champion? Contrary to the winner of WCG and IEM, I doubt it. In future seasons, this will probably look different and I'm sure that the NASL people will work towards that direction. However, having "rigged" groups is something they definitely have to get rid of during this process. It's totally fine for an event that serves no other purpose than to provide a good entertainment value for the viewers, but if you're trying to create a huge brand like the NASL does, there are more things to take into consideration. For now, I can live with it, but just don't get used to it. After all, making everything formal and transparent serves the purpose to make the competition more legitimate. Are MLB, NFL, and NBA seasons illegitimate? New York Yankees and the Red Sox consistently field two of the better teams in baseball yet they are in the same division every year, meaning that one has a high shot to miss the playoffs while a team with 10 less wins against lesser competition gets in. Why doesn't baseball change it, having rivalry games with two good teams draws huge ratings. You can bet if someone sets of a league they are going to try and keep rivals in the same divisions when possible, (great example of this was the Big 10 conference expansion, although they have set rivalry cross division games every year). This is totally normal to do as long as you don't completely stack one division to an unreasonable level. | ||
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DrunkenTemplar
Australia647 Posts
On March 30 2011 23:07 infinity2k9 wrote: It wasn't an argument it was just a recollection of what Artosis has done in SC2 besides the GSL. MorroW is a terrible comparison, he's already placed highly in tournaments with his new race, and proved he's still one of the best. For example i can't believe he'd get in over say, Mondragon. I have no doubt who i'd put my money on to produce better results in Mondragon vs Artosis regardless of what we have seen so far in SC2. I know theres a million kids who are like OMG TASTOSIS now SC2 has been out but Mondragon as an actual player is even more of a legend. Ok you still don't seem to get why I compared Morrow and Artosis. I compared them because using your first post only, you could say the same thing about Morrow, which we both agree would be a retarded reason to not have him in. My point is that implying player X shouldn't get in ONLY because they changed race is stupid. I'm not arguing for or against Artosis here. And yes I agree Mondi would be epic, I even posted in this thread earlier saying the exact same thing. #Edit for fail quote | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
I just wish it were open qualifiers at the end of the day, imo 16 going up and down at the end of the first league isn't even enough. I think it should be more like 16 staying IN. that would make it more cutthroat and give more people a chance. | ||
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Fearlezz
Croatia176 Posts
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KaveX
Germany59 Posts
On March 30 2011 23:26 feanor1 wrote: Are MLB, NFL, and NBA seasons illegitimate? Honestly? US sports actually does tend to be more about entertainment than about 100% fairness compared to European sports. Here in Europe, something like this would be unthinkable, also because, unlike US sports, the clubs are less strongly tied to the league. If Germany and England were put into the same World Cup group instead of a drawing, it would be a huge deal for us Europeans. Thinking about it, it might really be more of a cultural thing. Anyway, like I already said, I don't even consider it that big of a deal in NASL's first season. Might be bad for some players, but it's okay. The thing is just that I would be very upset if IEM or WCG did it, though, and to a slightly smaller extent GSL and MLG. Therefore, I concluded that it should be NASL's objective to also become one of the competitions that have so much meaning behind them that nothing should be rigged for entertainment's sake. It's up to them to either pursue this strategy or to focus on providing super-exciting games and not caring about the rest. | ||
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sinii
England989 Posts
Perhaps EG decided that he wasn't good enough to be one of their 5 picked players? Which seems crazy as i honestly think with the exception of Idra he is probably the most qualified. Oh well sad day for UK esports, and also NASL's business model for subscriptions in the UK :p | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
He was left out because he can't play and that's it.. pick another subject to complain.. When he recovers i'm sure he will be in NASL because he can compete with everybody | ||
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Strelok
Ukraine320 Posts
On March 30 2011 16:10 DND_Enkil wrote: Ah true, i hope Strelok and MaNa was able to provide some evidence aswell, since Strelok at least has struggled a lot with visa rejections in the past. Maybe Mouz manager was able to guarantee it somehow? I never had any single visa rejection. Sometimes i couldn't come just because organizators didn't send me documents in time or informed me about tournament too late. | ||
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sinii
England989 Posts
On March 31 2011 00:03 shell wrote: Man he's injured.. Incontrol is EG and this league has strong bonds with EG so why would they leave out demuslim if they tought he could compete? do you see him complaining? He was left out because he can't play and that's it.. pick another subject to complain.. When he recovers i'm sure he will be in NASL because he can compete with everybody He's a professional player, he knows it's not in his interest to complain. His good friend Rotterdam as good as complaining though is a very clear indication of Demuslims position and health might i add. | ||
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