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Players such as Jinro, HuK, and Adelscott did not apply for this tour, so don't ask why they aren't on this list. DIMAGA, Kas, and LaLush turned applications in late so they will not appear either. Please take some time to learn who exactly applied.

Please inform yourself about who applied and who didn't.
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 30 2011 09:43 GMT
#3961
On March 30 2011 18:17 KaveX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 17:46 urashimakt wrote:
On March 30 2011 17:29 CEPEHDREI wrote:
"The next thing we did was to look at fun and exciting rivals and try to pair them: I.E. IdrA vs Tyler, Zenio… and Grubby vs Moon. "

WHY? thats just dumb. Hey WWE, bye Sport.

I think it's possible to show discontent with a non-randomized grouping without likening them to a series scripted events. Grubby hasn't been told to take a dive. There are probably people who prefer it this way: it guarantees the fans will see match-ups they want to see. I'd agree that it's kind've a raw deal to some players, since it can stack them in groups that they're unlikely to progress out of, which could cause them to not place where they might've otherwise. Still a far cry from professional wrestling.

I don't think it's about being fair to the players, but about some sort of sportive competition environment. More appropriate than WWE: "series of showmatches". For long-term success, the NASL has to make sure that the league is more than just hundreds of showmatches with a high prize-money pool. This is something many SC2 events have been lacking.

Just take the World Cyber Games or the ESL Pro Series: One is clearly set up to be like the olympics, with nationality playing an important role, having qualifiers in lots of countries and having a somewhat equal distribution where no country can get more than three slots. The other is a national league with a big substructure and its winner can definitely call himself the national champion, noone would disagree.

Can the winner of a tournament with 50 of the world's best players invited without any formalized selection process call himself world champion? Contrary to the winner of WCG and IEM, I doubt it. In future seasons, this will probably look different and I'm sure that the NASL people will work towards that direction. However, having "rigged" groups is something they definitely have to get rid of during this process. It's totally fine for an event that serves no other purpose than to provide a good entertainment value for the viewers, but if you're trying to create a huge brand like the NASL does, there are more things to take into consideration. For now, I can live with it, but just don't get used to it. After all, making everything formal and transparent serves the purpose to make the competition more legitimate.

I don't disagree at all. Several good points and it's just a matter of time until we see what role NASL fills in our SC2 enjoyment.
Who dat ninja?
Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
March 30 2011 09:56 GMT
#3962
I'm a bit late to the party here, but I'm thrilled with the last spots going to top koreans, if the production value is high, NASL is gonna be as epic as the GSL always is =D
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 30 2011 09:57 GMT
#3963
was mondragon to late, only video or what was the reason not to choose him ?
NASL will be so GREAT !!!
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 30 2011 09:58 GMT
#3964
One question has still not been answered for me.

WHEN DOES IT START?

Anyone knows?


Off-season = best season
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
March 30 2011 09:58 GMT
#3965
Putting players in groups to generate rivalry is not wrong. They are trying to keep them balanced and spaced with team, ability and race then making room so that in group play there is some interesting backstory with a few games.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 30 2011 10:06 GMT
#3966
Good list of players :D. I figured that why Demuslim wouldn't get picked if he was fit and well he probably would have.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
qbs
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland771 Posts
March 30 2011 10:09 GMT
#3967
I would like to see LZ tbh :/
DeMusliM !!!
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 10:22:33
March 30 2011 10:12 GMT
#3968
Completely (yes) sacrificing balance between the groups in favor of arbitrary "rivalries" is a pretty disgusting decision. I suppose next time Idra will be lucky enough to be in a group with a much less skilled player (Cruncher). I could somewhat swallow one rivalry, but two? You are purposely rigging the groups for "entertainment" and as such some players have a better chance at getting out of their groups. This is acceptable only when it's due to seeds or random chance. It pays to be a completely uninteresting player as then you'll not form rivalries. Very disappointing.

Actually, even worse you could still have balanced them better even while maintaining the "exciting rivalries", but for whatever reason chose not to.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
March 30 2011 10:16 GMT
#3969
Would you have chosen Mondragon if you knew he'd win his first Round in TSL or was he declined because of other reasons?
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 10:22:04
March 30 2011 10:20 GMT
#3970
On March 30 2011 19:16 MBH wrote:
Would you have chosen Mondragon if you knew he'd win his first Round in TSL or was he declined because of other reasons?


I think even if they knew he'd win his first round, it's one Bo3 and that's like...ALL we've seen of him in SC2.

EDIT: Although I would have liked to see him in there. But his video did say he deserved to be in NASL because he was worse than everyone else xD
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
March 30 2011 10:24 GMT
#3971
On March 30 2011 18:58 Redox wrote:
One question has still not been answered for me.

WHEN DOES IT START?

Anyone knows?




2nd week of april.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 30 2011 10:30 GMT
#3972
for rly RIVALS the best would have been cruncher vs idra because
+ Show Spoiler +
after cruncher raped him in tsl so hard and made smilie
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Grandpipe
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia17 Posts
March 30 2011 10:37 GMT
#3973
brackets look stacked. Cannot wait for this to happen.
Snoyarc
Profile Joined January 2011
United States101 Posts
March 30 2011 10:40 GMT
#3974
On March 30 2011 19:30 CoR wrote:
for rly RIVALS the best would have been cruncher vs idra because
+ Show Spoiler +
after cruncher raped him in tsl so hard and made smilie


The groups/players selected we finished before the TSL 3 match.
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 10:53:02
March 30 2011 10:52 GMT
#3975
nvm
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
March 30 2011 10:52 GMT
#3976
no offence, but wtf is it with group 4 and 5 xD. Fcs looks like a freaking bomb wil explode within these groups. but non the less i think it will be

AWESOME!!

BTW: if Rainbow, Boxer, MC and stuf play in NASL, doesnt that collide with GSL?
The Wolfpack - Metalband from the Netherlands
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#3977
On March 30 2011 19:52 Skrelt wrote:
no offence, but wtf is it with group 4 and 5 xD. Fcs looks like a freaking bomb wil explode within these groups. but non the less i think it will be

AWESOME!!

BTW: if Rainbow, Boxer, MC and stuf play in NASL, doesnt that collide with GSL?

They don't have to leave Korea unless/until they make it to the final bracket, which means they should only have to be out a few days to film whatever they have to film and then head home.
Who dat ninja?
aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
March 30 2011 11:29 GMT
#3978
no TSL koreans ( Cliiiiide )
but still a amazing lineup
cant wait
Cj Entus | Effort | Prime | MarineKing | mouz | HasuObs
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
March 30 2011 11:35 GMT
#3979
Where is oGsSuperNova omg? O__O
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 30 2011 11:39 GMT
#3980
On March 30 2011 05:10 Xeris wrote:
After separating the players by region, we went down the list and selected players who: a) were considered “top” players and b) were fan favorites


Wasn't there a post where Xeris claimed that the criteria for NASL were:

Skill
Skill
Skill
Skill
Fame
(or something similar)

...?
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