EPTgreat games, and now im gonna download some thorzaine replays haha
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Shady
Austria115 Posts
great games, and now im gonna download some thorzaine replays haha | ||
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dtz
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Shooks
Australia256 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:08 Titorelli wrote: Speaking of latency. Aren't the games played on the NA server? So it's a huge advantage for the NA players like Tyler, is it not? I thought if it's NA vs EU, they go NA to EU to NA? Or the other way around, I think | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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TicketoHELL
Canada368 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:08 Titorelli wrote: Speaking of latency. Aren't the games played on the NA server? So it's a huge advantage for the NA players like Tyler, is it not? its based on seed i believe but you switch back and forth between servers | ||
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:04 KhAlleB wrote: Did you really feel the replay casting? from my part they were always sync up. If it wasnt my 3rd TSL i would not knew it was from rep On March 20 2011 07:07 Glimred wrote: I completely disagree. Replay or not this event was amazingly exiting for me, I cursed out fruitdealer for not punishing that 3 CC play and I was nervous as shit because I did not know if the Emperor would be able to take his game. I honestly don't see the difference between having the games live and livecasting the replays if the event is played online. You can't see the players anyway because it's not an offline event, so what difference does it make if you watch the games with a few seconds delay when live or with a few days delay when casted from replays? No, that's not really the way it works. Of course I wouldn't notice it, but by knowing that it's only replay cast it takes out a huge proportion of the excitement about the matches by making me know "oh, it all happened and all results are fixed already." It is not about seeing a qualitative difference in the moderation or games, it's about how the games affect me as a viewer. | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:06 teekesselchen wrote: I know, that was what I referred to with "that TL has made a bad experience regarding this."... And still I think that the live experience would be absolutely worth the potential threat of maybe wondering whether someone might have cheated, really. If this would've been live and Boxer had disced? Wow, that would've caused such an intense moment! That would've been just huge! This way it was kinda like "oh yeah, we already decided on this years ago, and here is what happened...". Pretty boring to be honest. What would be intense about that? It happened in a BW tournament once and it took like an hour for a decision to be made, and I don't know about anyone else but it was just about the least intense hour of BW I've ever watched. There's nothing intense about waiting around while admins and pros go through the long process of judging the outcome of a game. | ||
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DemiSe
883 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:10 Shooks wrote: I thought if it's NA vs EU, they go NA to EU to NA? Or the other way around, I think It's decided by the seeds of the players. First game is on the server that the player with the higest seed naturally plays on. So for example in the Tyler vs Strelok match, where Tyler is the number one seed it went: Na, Eu, Na. | ||
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gamefan15
50 Posts
but nightends playstyle looked to me like he might have been a bit to nervous while contrary to that tylers P looked very confident. e.g. how he engaged where others wouldnt and used perfect forcefields. also epic thorzain series. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:07 Azarkon wrote: He handled the bunker pressure in G1 quite well - this very thread was full of "OMG FD INSANE" right after he stopped any marines from getting into the bunkers and forced Thorzain to cancel his bunker. He did not handle the 7 marines very well. But part of this might be because he did not expect the 7 marines, which was a risky move right after he made a huge round of drones. He moved his spine crawler to take out the bunker, by the way. I included the 7 marines right after as part of the bunker pressure. That single move sealed the deal for FD. I don't know why FD didn't continue to scout after the bunker, but just assumed that that the T was going to back off. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:08 Titorelli wrote: Speaking of latency. Aren't the games played on the NA server? So it's a huge advantage for the NA players like Tyler, is it not? KR vs EU games are obv played on Na as evertything else is unplayable. NA vs KR/EU switch back and forth between servers with the first game starting on the higher seeds server. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On March 20 2011 06:58 teekesselchen wrote: I don't understand this. Granted, I might have a different perspective, since I know a bit about the logistical nightmares behind everything. That aside though, I cannot imagine anyone watching the stream and constantly thinking about the fact that it's a replay. Once it's started and the casters have really gotten into it it makes no difference to me.I am pretty disappointed that it's all replay casts. I do understand the major issue of potential cheating, but think that the top 32 playing in such a tournament should be trusted to a bigger amount, even though I acknowledge that TL has made a bad experience regarding this. I know that there are many people who think otherwise, but also a lot of people sharing my point of view: Replaycasts are plain boring. Seeing something that happened some random time in the past is something totally different than seeing it live and emphazising with the players, which is totally impossible when seeing it in the knowledge of "it's just a replay.". For a good, tense game, I want to feel with my stars and not just think "I wonder how he feels right now about the game he played yesterday", come on... It has also been discussed to death internally and live is not an option, period Edit: I can understand people who don't want to watch matches of which they already know the result (and I know people who usually don't watch VODs for that reason, either live or not at all), but this is different imho. No one except the players and a few people in the administration knows the result, so it's very much a live experience, everyone still sees it at the same time (so it's not like watching a recorded soccer match or whatever). Just look at IRC during the cast for example... | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:10 Mithriel wrote: the 35k viewers was only for the HQ stream right? Or does it also calculate the viewers on the LQ stream? there were about 3k on the LQ only, it doesnt calculate with the rest of the crowd on the HQ stream | ||
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TicketoHELL
Canada368 Posts
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Phearlock
Norway400 Posts
And now I want nothing more than to time travel forward about 20 hours and see day 2. Absolutely wonderful entertainment so far TL, thank you all. ^^ | ||
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venge1155
United States174 Posts
As far as feedback goes, the stream seemed to go great from my end. I watched on the HQ stream and I did not experience any sync issues at all. I thought the games where enjoyable (thought I missed Tyler's games so I can't wait to catch up on them) and I really can not wait for tomorrows matches. In my head a cool thing to add someday, would be some type of post round panel, via webcam or skype, to discuss the games from a pro perspective. Maybe even have one or too of the players around for a interview about how they felt about the match. Just my 2 cents. (this is my first TSL btw) | ||
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Shooks
Australia256 Posts
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teekesselchen
Germany886 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:10 huameng wrote: What would be intense about that? It happened in a BW tournament once and it took like an hour for a decision to be made, and I don't know about anyone else but it was just about the least intense hour of BW I've ever watched. There's nothing intense about waiting around while admins and pros go through the long process of judging the outcome of a game. Seeing something unexpected and obviously very important happening and only beeing able to hope for the outcome that feels right for oneself makes a very intense moment for people who really emotionally care for the game running. Okay, when it takes that long when the situation isn't very clear to rate it's a different story when it drags on for too long. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On March 20 2011 07:12 mdma-_- wrote: KR vs EU games are obv played on Na as evertything else is unplayable. NA vs KR/EU switch back and forth between servers with the first game starting on the higher seeds server. Hmm I really like the switching back and forth policy. It seems well thought-out and fair by TSL admins. Unfortunately, the Koreans all played in KR vs EU today, so they were unable to do any switching. But that's to be expected since the Europeans crushed the TSL qualifiers.~ | ||
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
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