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Come on TL, time to live report in the live report threads, instead of endless whining.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 14 2011 11:33 GMT
#2181
On March 14 2011 20:31 eluv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 20:28 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
OMG he Bunker RUSHED! Everyone talk about how good it was!


lol such a lame game. Bronze players can bunker rush.


Just to be clear, if a bronze player tried to do that bunker crush against Leenock, he would be crushed. Crushed horribly. We've seen top level zergs defend these kinds of rushes for months now - but MKP outmicro'd so he came away with the win.

so true. Also love leaving one marine to finish the hatchery... Leenock was thinking. Ok ill lose the hatch but ill get all those damm Marines.... Denied.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 14 2011 11:33 GMT
#2182
Someone needs to put up an image or GIF of John's cameo.

I wasn't paying attention so I missed it, unfortunately. Too busy typing up posts in various threads.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
March 14 2011 11:34 GMT
#2183
On March 14 2011 20:32 Mainland wrote:
I like watching marine scv all ins. There's so many decisions a zerg can make. A relatively low APM response would be to give up the 2nd hatch and see what you can do with 16 drones off one base and spinecrawlers vs an all in with 9 SCVs mining.


Not a winning move, since the terran has mules that more than offset the lower worker count. I'd love to be proven otherwise, so if you have replays I'd love to see them.
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
March 14 2011 11:34 GMT
#2184
No interviews?!
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
March 14 2011 11:34 GMT
#2185
John!
I <3 Plexa.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 14 2011 11:34 GMT
#2186
If I can take a moment of your time.

Poll: How did you find the OP?

I prefer standard OP. (66)
 
38%

It was fine. (55)
 
32%

Disliked the way matches are scattered. (34)
 
20%

Disliked the match result/recommendation (6)
 
3%

I didn't like the OP at all. (6)
 
3%

Disliked the way players were represented (5)
 
3%

172 total votes

Your vote: How did you find the OP?

(Vote): Disliked the match result/recommendation
(Vote): Disliked the way matches are scattered.
(Vote): Disliked the way players were represented
(Vote): I didn't like the OP at all.
(Vote): I prefer standard OP.
(Vote): It was fine.


@
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
March 14 2011 11:35 GMT
#2187
why no interview?
You know what I'm talking about
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
March 14 2011 11:35 GMT
#2188
I like the result; I dislike the games. Huk was somewhat disappointing. I've watched his stream before, and I think it's due to nerves. His control can really be good - I remember an awesome PvP where he ended up with like 5 colossus in the red while destroying an equal amount of enemy colossus - but he wasn't really showing that these games.

Glad choya is out though.

And poor leenock. Didn't know who to root for in that group.
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 14 2011 11:36 GMT
#2189
On March 14 2011 20:35 namedplayer wrote:
why no interview?


They probably decided not to do it for the Up & Down matches, can't blame them.
@
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 11:36:50
March 14 2011 11:36 GMT
#2190
Huk is good and has good micro, I'm pretty sure he's nervous or something, if you have watched his stream you'd know what he's capable of .
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 11:40:38
March 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#2191
I'm really glad MKP bunker rushed and won, because it shows how important the mental state is at high level competition.

Think about it. Poor Leenock just lost 3 games in a row, why would you want to show mercy at that point? As Artosis put it, Leenock might have not been in the proper mental state at that point. And MKP totally understood this, and delivered the killing blow swiftly and without mercy.

Being able to get into your opponent's head and screw him over that way is something Nestea and MKP have, and Leenock doesn't.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
March 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#2192
On March 14 2011 20:09 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 20:08 vol_ wrote:
cereal out the nose can happen! I was eating popcorn chicken from kfc one and i laughed so hard some of it came out of my nose.. But tasteless is right it has to be chewed up a bit

Did you ever imagine that story would come in handy like this?


It gets better, there was still some in my nose so i did a bushmans blow (hold one nostril and blow it out the other) and some snotty popcorn chicken shot out and prceeded to stick to the window of the starbucks i was sitting outside of.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
March 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#2193
[image loading]
who is this?
You know what I'm talking about
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
March 14 2011 11:38 GMT
#2194
On March 14 2011 20:28 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
OMG he Bunker RUSHED! Everyone talk about how good it was!


lol such a lame game. Bronze players can bunker rush.


This was not just a bunker rush like you would see on ladder. Take into account that this was the second game in a Bo3 series, on in which MKP was ahead with 1-0. At the same time, take into account that Leenock was on a 0-3 streak at the moment, losing a game to Nestea that he probably felt for sure he had in the bag (Game 2). Also taking into account that both Nestea and MKP have been in the Finals of the GSL (hell, they even played against each other there in an epic Bo7).

With all of those things to account for, there is almost no doubt that Leenock was doubting himself by this point. Had he held the bunker rush, what then? MKP and Leenock would enter Game 3, and Leenock would have to be really careful about another potential allin, thus psychologically forcing Leenock to play a safer game and thus a "weaker" opening.

Bo3 as opposed to Bo1 are just as much about your mechanics, build orders, strategy, game sense (the things that are present in Bo1) as your mind set (mostly occurring in series play).
@DreamingBird
sqrt
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1210 Posts
March 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#2195
On March 14 2011 20:37 namedplayer wrote:
[image loading]
who is this?


A bunch of cool guys.
@
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 14 2011 11:39 GMT
#2196
On March 14 2011 20:34 sqrt wrote:
If I can take a moment of your time.
+ Show Spoiler +

Poll: How did you find the OP?

I prefer standard OP. (66)
 
38%

It was fine. (55)
 
32%

Disliked the way matches are scattered. (34)
 
20%

Disliked the match result/recommendation (6)
 
3%

I didn't like the OP at all. (6)
 
3%

Disliked the way players were represented (5)
 
3%

172 total votes

Your vote: How did you find the OP?

(Vote): Disliked the match result/recommendation
(Vote): Disliked the way matches are scattered.
(Vote): Disliked the way players were represented
(Vote): I didn't like the OP at all.
(Vote): I prefer standard OP.
(Vote): It was fine.





It's a good setup, but was confusing to navigate through at first. I think just a standard one here is easier to deal with for simplicty's sake. Thanks for the effort though! Wouldn't have made it through the morning if I didn't know whether or not HuK made Code S xD.
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
March 14 2011 11:40 GMT
#2197
On March 14 2011 20:34 sqrt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
If I can take a moment of your time.

Poll: How did you find the OP?

I prefer standard OP. (66)
 
38%

It was fine. (55)
 
32%

Disliked the way matches are scattered. (34)
 
20%

Disliked the match result/recommendation (6)
 
3%

I didn't like the OP at all. (6)
 
3%

Disliked the way players were represented (5)
 
3%

172 total votes

Your vote: How did you find the OP?

(Vote): Disliked the match result/recommendation
(Vote): Disliked the way matches are scattered.
(Vote): Disliked the way players were represented
(Vote): I didn't like the OP at all.
(Vote): I prefer standard OP.
(Vote): It was fine.



If you want feedback, I'd prefer to have some kind of result summary/overview. That would make it a lot easier if you missed the matches and just want to check on the results. Everything else well done.
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
March 14 2011 11:45 GMT
#2198
On March 14 2011 20:38 orz.fail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 20:28 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
OMG he Bunker RUSHED! Everyone talk about how good it was!


lol such a lame game. Bronze players can bunker rush.


This was not just a bunker rush like you would see on ladder. Take into account that this was the second game in a Bo3 series, on in which MKP was ahead with 1-0. At the same time, take into account that Leenock was on a 0-3 streak at the moment, losing a game to Nestea that he probably felt for sure he had in the bag (Game 2). Also taking into account that both Nestea and MKP have been in the Finals of the GSL (hell, they even played against each other there in an epic Bo7).

With all of those things to account for, there is almost no doubt that Leenock was doubting himself by this point. Had he held the bunker rush, what then? MKP and Leenock would enter Game 3, and Leenock would have to be really careful about another potential allin, thus psychologically forcing Leenock to play a safer game and thus a "weaker" opening.

Bo3 as opposed to Bo1 are just as much about your mechanics, build orders, strategy, game sense (the things that are present in Bo1) as your mind set (mostly occurring in series play).


Great post, wish I could explain things as well as you did.

Anyone who complains about the lameness of a bunker rush clearly doesn't understand what competition is about, and how important the mind set is to winning.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 14 2011 11:45 GMT
#2199
On March 14 2011 20:34 sqrt wrote:
If I can take a moment of your time.

I prefer standard op, but good job still I think standard is more clear and easy to read.
(and you have a green tag not closed properly in OP, in the fun fact "first PvP played on this map)
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
March 14 2011 11:46 GMT
#2200
sorry, but what is OP?
WOrd, yo.
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