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On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push. It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ...
Its easy to transition into hive with 4base econ, not easy to supports a stargate with 4gates off 1base....
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On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote: Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech Robo bay is the equivalent actually.
Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
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Morrow has higher APM than MC right now, he's clearly winning the game thus far.
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On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote: Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech
What is your opinion of a "hive tech equivalent for toss?" Colossus take a ton to tech to, Robo facility + Robo Bay + Range to start making colossus and make them effective, I'm sure morrow could easily have gotten a hive and infestation pit, or Drops or anything else other than trying to ram 50 roaches at a time into a wall of stalker/sentry/immortal/collosus with better upgrades.
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At least roaches are better than roaches hydras. But this let you stockpile so much gaz that infestors, or at least 3/3 upgrade should work out nicely.
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On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote: what i dont get:
why still roach hydra?
mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm.
Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success.
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On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push. It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ... No it's not. Worst comparison I ever heard. Or maybe you mean a roach push should last for 15 minutes?
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On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push. It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ... Uh... it's not at all.
The game developed into a macro game and Morrow was in excellent position. First attack, he picked off sentries. Second attack, he picked off collosi. Then he just stuck on roaches against stalker/immortal.
He may have more success in practice with roach instead of infestor, but that doesn't mean it's actually capable of taking out someone like MC in late game. He probably just doesn't have as much experience with it.
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On April 24 2011 00:52 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:50 Fyzar wrote:On April 24 2011 00:49 Milvus wrote: Morrow is playing so well! But MC is on 3 bases... He plays soo strange =S. Going mass roach, floating a shitton of gas, making a few hydras still going mass roach, still floating a shitton of gas. Why in the world do zergs keep trying to do this when it's clearly not working =S. Because they wouldn't be able to complain if they were doing well. So zerg players are deliberately losing because they like to rage?
Get out retard.
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Come on MorroW! Try TLO's crazy styles with White-Ra's special tactics to take out MC. Can't just play standard with MC.
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On April 24 2011 00:54 oo inflame oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote: Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech Robo bay is the equivalent actually. Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Carriers and colossus is the protoss equivalent to hive tech.
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On April 24 2011 00:54 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote: what i dont get:
why still roach hydra?
mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm. Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success. I hardly think one series should totally invalidate an entire method of play.
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On April 24 2011 00:54 HuHEN wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:On April 24 2011 00:50 ellirc wrote: WHY no hive tech morrow? Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push. It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ... Its easy to transition into hive with 4base econ, not easy to supports a stargate with 4gates off 1base....
It's not easy. MC will simply roll him while he waits for Broodlords/Ultra. That tech switch takes a lot of time and it's very risky unless u have a big lead.
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On April 24 2011 00:54 oo inflame oo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote: Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech Robo bay is the equivalent actually. Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Maybe you should learn toss's tech tree then? After cyber core it splits into 3 paths, citadel/robo/stargate. They all have one/two buildings after that, archives/robobay/fleet beacon/shrine. These final tech buildings enable templar, carriers, mothership, DTs and colossus. Those are the highest tech Protoss units. So yes, colossus is the equivalent.
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On April 24 2011 00:54 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote: what i dont get:
why still roach hydra?
mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm. Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success.
If at first you dont succeed, just give up and go back to the strat which has failed you over and over....
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On April 24 2011 00:53 Fyzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:52 Lennon wrote:On April 24 2011 00:50 sinii wrote: meh roach key worn out much?!
Jesus man stop chucking the same unit at him... There's no alternative. What the hell are you smoking, there sure as hell is an alternative to massing roaches -.-.
There's no feasible alternative. It's either this or Mutas which insta-lose versus a 2 base timing push.
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On April 24 2011 00:52 Hirnfrost wrote: morrow is playing more and more like idra kinda sad I think agree.
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Did morrow scout MC expansion ?
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On April 24 2011 00:57 kapistar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 00:52 Hirnfrost wrote: morrow is playing more and more like idra kinda sad I think agree.
Sad... Or ironic?
Somewhere, Idra is laughing.
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just read what morrow wrote about PvZ and stop telling him what to do. he tried in practise and uses what works for him the best. it's not like he had no chance in game 1 and he's playing vs MC....
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