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HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2361
On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:50 ellirc wrote:
WHY no hive tech morrow?


Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push.
It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ...


Its easy to transition into hive with 4base econ, not easy to supports a stargate with 4gates off 1base....
oo inflame oo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States286 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2362
On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote:
Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs



Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech

Robo bay is the equivalent actually.


Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2363
Morrow has higher APM than MC right now, he's clearly winning the game thus far.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2364
On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote:
Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs



Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech


What is your opinion of a "hive tech equivalent for toss?" Colossus take a ton to tech to, Robo facility + Robo Bay + Range to start making colossus and make them effective, I'm sure morrow could easily have gotten a hive and infestation pit, or Drops or anything else other than trying to ram 50 roaches at a time into a wall of stalker/sentry/immortal/collosus with better upgrades.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2365
At least roaches are better than roaches hydras. But this let you stockpile so much gaz that infestors, or at least 3/3 upgrade should work out nicely.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2366
On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote:
what i dont get:

why still roach hydra?

mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm.


Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success.
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
April 23 2011 15:54 GMT
#2367
On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:50 ellirc wrote:
WHY no hive tech morrow?


Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push.
It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ...

No it's not. Worst comparison I ever heard. Or maybe you mean a roach push should last for 15 minutes?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 15:58:38
April 23 2011 15:55 GMT
#2368
On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:50 ellirc wrote:
WHY no hive tech morrow?


Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push.
It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ...

Uh... it's not at all.

The game developed into a macro game and Morrow was in excellent position. First attack, he picked off sentries. Second attack, he picked off collosi. Then he just stuck on roaches against stalker/immortal.

He may have more success in practice with roach instead of infestor, but that doesn't mean it's actually capable of taking out someone like MC in late game. He probably just doesn't have as much experience with it.
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
April 23 2011 15:55 GMT
#2369
On April 24 2011 00:52 Daralii wrote:
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On April 24 2011 00:50 Fyzar wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:49 Milvus wrote:
Morrow is playing so well! But MC is on 3 bases...

He plays soo strange =S. Going mass roach, floating a shitton of gas, making a few hydras still going mass roach, still floating a shitton of gas.
Why in the world do zergs keep trying to do this when it's clearly not working =S.

Because they wouldn't be able to complain if they were doing well.

So zerg players are deliberately losing because they like to rage?

Get out retard.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 23 2011 15:55 GMT
#2370
Come on MorroW! Try TLO's crazy styles with White-Ra's special tactics to take out MC. Can't just play standard with MC.
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 23 2011 15:55 GMT
#2371
On April 24 2011 00:54 oo inflame oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote:
Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs



Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech

Robo bay is the equivalent actually.


Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

Carriers and colossus is the protoss equivalent to hive tech.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
April 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#2372
On April 24 2011 00:54 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote:
what i dont get:

why still roach hydra?

mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm.


Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success.

I hardly think one series should totally invalidate an entire method of play.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
April 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#2373
On April 24 2011 00:54 HuHEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:50 ellirc wrote:
WHY no hive tech morrow?


Because he did a build that focused on a very strong roach push.
It's like saying "why no stargate" to someone who goes for a 4-gate build ...


Its easy to transition into hive with 4base econ, not easy to supports a stargate with 4gates off 1base....


It's not easy. MC will simply roll him while he waits for Broodlords/Ultra. That tech switch takes a lot of time and it's very risky unless u have a big lead.
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 15:57:11
April 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#2374
On April 24 2011 00:54 oo inflame oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:52 Yaotzin wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:51 oo inflame oo wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:50 ibogdandx wrote:
Im tired of players not making hive tech -.- ffs



Toss doesn't need the tech equivalent of hive tech

Robo bay is the equivalent actually.


Probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

Maybe you should learn toss's tech tree then? After cyber core it splits into 3 paths, citadel/robo/stargate. They all have one/two buildings after that, archives/robobay/fleet beacon/shrine. These final tech buildings enable templar, carriers, mothership, DTs and colossus. Those are the highest tech Protoss units. So yes, colossus is the equivalent.
HuHEN
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom514 Posts
April 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#2375
On April 24 2011 00:54 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:53 DiaBoLuS wrote:
what i dont get:

why still roach hydra?

mix mutas or drops in is necessary vs toss atm.


Mutas are bad on most of the maps and MorroW tried drops vs Hasu with no success.


If at first you dont succeed, just give up and go back to the strat which has failed you over and over....
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 23 2011 15:56 GMT
#2376
On April 24 2011 00:53 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:52 Lennon wrote:
On April 24 2011 00:50 sinii wrote:
meh roach key worn out much?!

Jesus man stop chucking the same unit at him...


There's no alternative.

What the hell are you smoking, there sure as hell is an alternative to massing roaches -.-.


There's no feasible alternative. It's either this or Mutas which insta-lose versus a 2 base timing push.
kapistar
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland17 Posts
April 23 2011 15:57 GMT
#2377
On April 24 2011 00:52 Hirnfrost wrote:
morrow is playing more and more like idra
kinda sad I think

agree.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1681 Posts
April 23 2011 15:57 GMT
#2378
Did morrow scout MC expansion ?
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 15:58:44
April 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#2379
On April 24 2011 00:57 kapistar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 00:52 Hirnfrost wrote:
morrow is playing more and more like idra
kinda sad I think

agree.


Sad... Or ironic?

Somewhere, Idra is laughing.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#2380
just read what morrow wrote about PvZ and stop telling him what to do. he tried in practise and uses what works for him the best. it's not like he had no chance in game 1 and he's playing vs MC....
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