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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2601
On March 01 2011 22:31 NikonTC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:27 ccHaZaRd wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:25 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:21 Gunman_csz wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:16 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:12 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:10 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.

Im sorry to say, but Ace is just better than Morrow in this series. Nothing to do with Imbalances.


He raped IdrA the same way. With what was the Phoenix buff reasonable? Its a 200 HP (80 Shields, 120 HP) unit , fastest in the game with a very unique ability. I don't see the reason why you would buff its building time when it was insanely good to begin with.

Also the Colossus - the other tech tree - 350 HP Range 6 in the beginning, range 9 after with 30 AoE damage. Its just ridiculous and Blizzard just nerfed the wrong stuff with the Templar. (well it was the right nerf, but the nerf was too hard while leaving the Colossus WHICH DOES COUNTER EVERYTHING(!) better than its designed counters better than them untouched) -_-

Holy damn, you sure like whining. I always see you in these LR thread complaining about imbalances and why the german player didnt advance bla bla bla. Yeah, sure you obviously know better than Blizzard, who has 100 000 matches of data to go by to balance the game. Why don't you aply for a blizzard job?


He is not whining but stating his opinion, and it is widely accepted that PvZ is broken! even Protoss programers say it (Hell even Ace himself said it, check Artotsis interview!), so ......

Plus blizzard makes mistakes and are constantly balancing the game. look at the amount of times they have been tinkering with the bunker alone..

My point being: Stop talking about balance all together. its useless. Focus on improving your own game because if you're losing, it was YOU who did something wrong, not anything else. Watch the replay, analyze what you did wrong, what could've been done differently etc. Being stuck in this "Pheonixes are just too good" mentality does nothing but hurt you in improving.


lol i bet you wouldn't say that to idra


I would :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Tell me that doesn't describe IdrA to a T. And most of the TL forums for that matter...


Yeah, unfortunately you're the "unskilled person making poor decisions and reaching erroneous conclusions" when evaluating Idra's performance as a progamer.

Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
March 01 2011 13:37 GMT
#2602
IdrA vs WhiteRa GOOO!
möp
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
March 01 2011 13:37 GMT
#2603
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore


because of the quaklive and cs players
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 01 2011 13:37 GMT
#2604
On March 01 2011 22:36 Lori_ftw wrote:
Go buy Intel CPUs, if you don't already have one!


To bad that they fucked up on 1155, so you cant buy any new Intel eq. now if you dont want to buy yesterdays tech.
I am not young enough to know everything.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
March 01 2011 13:37 GMT
#2605
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
March 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#2606
goes out and back in... CLASSIC NERD
Hi!
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#2607
On March 01 2011 22:37 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.


The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#2608
On March 01 2011 22:37 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.


That whows how much they care about SC2 then, when no pro gamers play on 4:3 in Sc2.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:39:24
March 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#2609
On March 01 2011 22:34 Shika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:29 DayJP wrote:
sponsors shouldnt take streaming time like this


You must be joking. Do you think the event would be possible without the sponsors? Either they get their 10 minutes/day promoting their product on the stream and you get an awesome tournament to watch or you get nothing to watch at all. You choose.

Sponsors - and especially electronic sponsors like Intel - should do it much better / interesting than having two guys talk about it ... which is rather boring. Make a video or have some pictures to illustrate things and most certainly dont have one fake lack of knowledge. "Oh that is a wafer" ... that is something every kid nowadays should have recognized.

Having people of such differing height always makes interviews awkward and thus .... get these guys a table and two seats.

Just my two cents on how to improve this kind of performance.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
March 01 2011 13:38 GMT
#2610
On March 01 2011 22:37 vrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.


LOL, and in front of every gaming station they have this HUGE ass widescreen for the audience :D :D
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
March 01 2011 13:39 GMT
#2611
On March 01 2011 22:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.


Nö!
möp
NikonTC
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:42:26
March 01 2011 13:39 GMT
#2612
On March 01 2011 22:34 Fa1nT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:31 NikonTC wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:27 ccHaZaRd wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:25 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:21 Gunman_csz wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:16 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:12 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:10 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.

Im sorry to say, but Ace is just better than Morrow in this series. Nothing to do with Imbalances.


He raped IdrA the same way. With what was the Phoenix buff reasonable? Its a 200 HP (80 Shields, 120 HP) unit , fastest in the game with a very unique ability. I don't see the reason why you would buff its building time when it was insanely good to begin with.

Also the Colossus - the other tech tree - 350 HP Range 6 in the beginning, range 9 after with 30 AoE damage. Its just ridiculous and Blizzard just nerfed the wrong stuff with the Templar. (well it was the right nerf, but the nerf was too hard while leaving the Colossus WHICH DOES COUNTER EVERYTHING(!) better than its designed counters better than them untouched) -_-

Holy damn, you sure like whining. I always see you in these LR thread complaining about imbalances and why the german player didnt advance bla bla bla. Yeah, sure you obviously know better than Blizzard, who has 100 000 matches of data to go by to balance the game. Why don't you aply for a blizzard job?


He is not whining but stating his opinion, and it is widely accepted that PvZ is broken! even Protoss programers say it (Hell even Ace himself said it, check Artotsis interview!), so ......

Plus blizzard makes mistakes and are constantly balancing the game. look at the amount of times they have been tinkering with the bunker alone..

My point being: Stop talking about balance all together. its useless. Focus on improving your own game because if you're losing, it was YOU who did something wrong, not anything else. Watch the replay, analyze what you did wrong, what could've been done differently etc. Being stuck in this "Pheonixes are just too good" mentality does nothing but hurt you in improving.


lol i bet you wouldn't say that to idra


I would :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Tell me that doesn't describe IdrA to a T. And most of the TL forums for that matter...

Except IdrA is the actual progamer here, and you posting this "cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions" is the exact definition of this.

Just stop insulting progamers. IdrA isn't even allowed to defend his opinions.


I actually edited my post, before you finished posting yours.

But to elaborate, believe it or not I was a big IdrA fan until a few weeks ago. I rooted for him in the Jinro vs IdrA match and was massively disappointed when he lost. RIGHT up until the point where he said in the post-game interview "zerg is broken so I didn't bother practicing very much".

And I'm still a fan of him, despite that. I just think he displays the following characteristics from the wiki link.

"tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they can be trained to substantially improve."
"IdrA crushes the marine push, absolutely demolishes this 2 rax play. Would not be suprised to see a GG from IdrA at any moment" Day[9]
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 01 2011 13:39 GMT
#2613
On March 01 2011 22:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.


This is wrong, as any competitive player of any fighting game, or any FPS will readily tell you.
Frallan
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden56 Posts
March 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#2614
Darrgghh. Bought the HD pass. SC2 HD doesnt work. Running on firefox Pretty dissapointed so far. Any help?

On topic. I really hope Morrow can pull up some miracle here and go through.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
March 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#2615
On March 01 2011 22:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:37 vrok wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.


The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.

100% wrong.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7085 Posts
March 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#2616
On March 01 2011 22:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:37 vrok wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:36 Jiddra wrote:
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore

It's for CS and QL. CRT screens are pretty much mandatory for pro players.


The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.

Uh, yeah sure if you can get your hands on one of those pricey lcds which support 125hz. For a LAN event it makes a lot more sense to just stick with cheap crts for fps games.
GalacToss
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom7 Posts
March 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#2617
Awww, Idra vs WhiteRa is going to be awesome! Watching it at work............................ I love my job :-)
Can You Feeeeel The Wrath of GalacToss!!!!!!!! WHHAT!!! London? Where the hell is Edinburgh?? I do this for Scotland!!
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
March 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#2618
Man, I thought my SC2 was running for a good 2 minutes, until I realized the music came from the stream...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 01 2011 13:41 GMT
#2619
On March 01 2011 22:39 Jinsho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:38 mTw|NarutO wrote:
The advantage of the CRT is long gone to be honest.


This is wrong, as any competitive player of any fighting game, or any FPS will readily tell you.


Enlighten me what the advantage is then.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
March 01 2011 13:41 GMT
#2620
I'd say idra's about 4:1 favorite as white ra isn't anywhere near to his beastly performance before he decided to take a break from sc2. Still rooting for hin though!

Someone please LR!
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
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