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MisterPuppy
Profile Joined August 2010
161 Posts
March 01 2011 13:30 GMT
#2561
is this guy discussing how to 4 Gate in TVP?
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2562
Take is amazing at looking interested.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2563
Guys, I check the first page and every one has finished their games. Is IEM finished for today?
End my suffering
Jaeng
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada110 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2564
yawn... so predictions for upcoming matches?
NikonTC
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:32:42
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2565
On March 01 2011 22:27 ccHaZaRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:25 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:21 Gunman_csz wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:16 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:12 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:10 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.

Im sorry to say, but Ace is just better than Morrow in this series. Nothing to do with Imbalances.


He raped IdrA the same way. With what was the Phoenix buff reasonable? Its a 200 HP (80 Shields, 120 HP) unit , fastest in the game with a very unique ability. I don't see the reason why you would buff its building time when it was insanely good to begin with.

Also the Colossus - the other tech tree - 350 HP Range 6 in the beginning, range 9 after with 30 AoE damage. Its just ridiculous and Blizzard just nerfed the wrong stuff with the Templar. (well it was the right nerf, but the nerf was too hard while leaving the Colossus WHICH DOES COUNTER EVERYTHING(!) better than its designed counters better than them untouched) -_-

Holy damn, you sure like whining. I always see you in these LR thread complaining about imbalances and why the german player didnt advance bla bla bla. Yeah, sure you obviously know better than Blizzard, who has 100 000 matches of data to go by to balance the game. Why don't you aply for a blizzard job?


He is not whining but stating his opinion, and it is widely accepted that PvZ is broken! even Protoss programers say it (Hell even Ace himself said it, check Artotsis interview!), so ......

Plus blizzard makes mistakes and are constantly balancing the game. look at the amount of times they have been tinkering with the bunker alone..

My point being: Stop talking about balance all together. its useless. Focus on improving your own game because if you're losing, it was YOU who did something wrong, not anything else. Watch the replay, analyze what you did wrong, what could've been done differently etc. Being stuck in this "Pheonixes are just too good" mentality does nothing but hurt you in improving.


lol i bet you wouldn't say that to idra


I would :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Tell me that doesn't describe IdrA to a T. And most of the TL forums for that matter...

(Not that I'm suggesting he's unskilled Just not as skilled as he thinks he is)
"IdrA crushes the marine push, absolutely demolishes this 2 rax play. Would not be suprised to see a GG from IdrA at any moment" Day[9]
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2566
On March 01 2011 22:31 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Guys, I check the first page and every one has finished their games. Is IEM finished for today?


No, one more game left. IdrA vs MorroW
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
awha
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1358 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2567
On March 01 2011 22:30 eloist wrote:
The quality of the actual games is really, really, really good so far.


I was thinking the same thing, solid games so far
lasto
Profile Joined September 2010
141 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2568
I actually felt bad for the younger guy lol!
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2569
On March 01 2011 22:29 d.Apollo wrote:
time on next match?

random anything? ESL IEM schedules rarely work.

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
Jungosi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany186 Posts
March 01 2011 13:31 GMT
#2570
On March 01 2011 22:30 eloist wrote:
The quality of the actual games is really, really, really good so far.


True, though I die a little bit inside whenever Ace roflstomps our foreign top-players
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
March 01 2011 13:32 GMT
#2571
On March 01 2011 22:31 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Guys, I check the first page and every one has finished their games. Is IEM finished for today?


tomorrow plays group b
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
March 01 2011 13:32 GMT
#2572
I'm not sure wheter I should be happy I understand German or not. How long can you talk about a processor?
We know nothing.
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
March 01 2011 13:32 GMT
#2573
On March 01 2011 22:31 Blaec wrote:
Take is amazing at looking interested.

haha indeed :D
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
March 01 2011 13:32 GMT
#2574
On March 01 2011 22:24 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:18 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:14 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.


Sure it's true, it's exactly that to be honest.

Simple math proves it:
One phoenix costs 150/100, one roach costs 75/25. This means, you spend 150/100 to be able to lift off a 75/25 unit. This is not cost-efficient at all. If you go for that in a "normal" game you have nowhere near the gateway-count to kill stuff, pure mass-roaches from a good 2-base economy would stomp you into the ground.


You are being ridiculous. You want to go into math? Lets go on the hardcounter map. We've seen Adelscott put enormous pressure just with gatewayunits. They become insanely strong with the abilities they have (forcefield, guardian shield) and due to the range of the roach its not really able to make full potential of its "costs".

-_- and if 50% of you army is lifted its worth 0. Well not exactly zero since you still have to kill them, but 50% of your army can be nullified within seconds.
Yes, 50% of your army can be NULLIFIED within seconds. That's the whole point, nullfied and NOT killed. When I invest more ressources into "nullfying" something without actually being able to kill it, it's NOT cost-efficient.
.


That's where you are wrong. Nullifying something is better than killing - that's the whole point. If your phoenixes lift up my 8 hydras, not to mention they are going to kill most of them, my hydras were dealing 0 damage!
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
March 01 2011 13:32 GMT
#2575
1 min till Idra vs White-ra!!!.
Prostak
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland192 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2576
there are still like 6 games left to play today LOL
when?
schedule is a little bit delyed ;p
♥ EmpireHappy, roxkisBratOK, imbaFXOStrelok EmpireNerchio, MǂStephano, mTwDIMAGA dignitasNaniwa, aTnSocke, DuckloadRa ♥
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2577
On March 01 2011 22:31 NikonTC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:27 ccHaZaRd wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:25 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:21 Gunman_csz wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:16 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:12 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:10 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.

Im sorry to say, but Ace is just better than Morrow in this series. Nothing to do with Imbalances.


He raped IdrA the same way. With what was the Phoenix buff reasonable? Its a 200 HP (80 Shields, 120 HP) unit , fastest in the game with a very unique ability. I don't see the reason why you would buff its building time when it was insanely good to begin with.

Also the Colossus - the other tech tree - 350 HP Range 6 in the beginning, range 9 after with 30 AoE damage. Its just ridiculous and Blizzard just nerfed the wrong stuff with the Templar. (well it was the right nerf, but the nerf was too hard while leaving the Colossus WHICH DOES COUNTER EVERYTHING(!) better than its designed counters better than them untouched) -_-

Holy damn, you sure like whining. I always see you in these LR thread complaining about imbalances and why the german player didnt advance bla bla bla. Yeah, sure you obviously know better than Blizzard, who has 100 000 matches of data to go by to balance the game. Why don't you aply for a blizzard job?


He is not whining but stating his opinion, and it is widely accepted that PvZ is broken! even Protoss programers say it (Hell even Ace himself said it, check Artotsis interview!), so ......

Plus blizzard makes mistakes and are constantly balancing the game. look at the amount of times they have been tinkering with the bunker alone..

My point being: Stop talking about balance all together. its useless. Focus on improving your own game because if you're losing, it was YOU who did something wrong, not anything else. Watch the replay, analyze what you did wrong, what could've been done differently etc. Being stuck in this "Pheonixes are just too good" mentality does nothing but hurt you in improving.


lol i bet you wouldn't say that to idra


I would :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Tell me that doesn't describe IdrA to a T. And most of the TL forums for that matter...

Idra is unskilled? Rofl. Are you sure you're not the one being described by that?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2578
Hahahaha TaKe is looking confused :D with all that data
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ccHaZaRd
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada1024 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2579
lol take looks like a bobble head
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2580
On March 01 2011 22:30 Housemd wrote:
Just wanted to ask, if two people get the same number of points, do they play like a tiebreaker or something?

Since they are playing BO3 I reckon they would look at how the scores in the games went (one player went 8-5 and other went 8-6, player that went 8-5 advances) and/or look at the result in their BO3.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
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