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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2581
On March 01 2011 22:24 busbarn wrote:
interview with IdrA if anyone's interested


I love idra in video interviews. Kid's so manner haha.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2582
On March 01 2011 22:32 Garnet wrote:
1 min till Idra vs White-ra!!!.

hahah ppl are so naive... THIS IS IEM!
Hi!
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2583
On March 01 2011 22:29 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:28 Armsved wrote:
I dont know what he is saying about this computer chip, but he is saying it in german so it must be awsome


No, it's not. Its some very basic hardware knowledge that today every child knows....


Just because you know about this it does not mean everybody does. I know quite a few gamers that simply don't care about their pc specs. They simply buy a computer that is already configurated or put everything in it that brings the most power.

A promotion that can only be understood by some nerds is a) not needed (because the "nerds" know about it and b) would only confuse average viewers that walk by or sit there to watch these "esports" things.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
lasto
Profile Joined September 2010
141 Posts
March 01 2011 13:33 GMT
#2584
On March 01 2011 22:33 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Hahahaha TaKe is looking confused :D with all that data


It looks like he just read off his cue card.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
March 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#2585
On March 01 2011 22:25 vyyye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:24 Nimic wrote:
Does the HD stream keep buffering for anyone else? It isn't constantly, but still often enough to make it quite annoying to watch.

Is on your end, been fine for me since the first game of the day.


There's no way my connection can't handle it. Particularly since I watched GSL in HQ with no problems an hour ago.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
March 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#2586
On March 01 2011 22:29 DayJP wrote:
sponsors shouldnt take streaming time like this


You must be joking. Do you think the event would be possible without the sponsors? Either they get their 10 minutes/day promoting their product on the stream and you get an awesome tournament to watch or you get nothing to watch at all. You choose.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:35:46
March 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#2587
On March 01 2011 22:32 Alpina wrote:
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On March 01 2011 22:24 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:18 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:14 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.


Sure it's true, it's exactly that to be honest.

Simple math proves it:
One phoenix costs 150/100, one roach costs 75/25. This means, you spend 150/100 to be able to lift off a 75/25 unit. This is not cost-efficient at all. If you go for that in a "normal" game you have nowhere near the gateway-count to kill stuff, pure mass-roaches from a good 2-base economy would stomp you into the ground.


You are being ridiculous. You want to go into math? Lets go on the hardcounter map. We've seen Adelscott put enormous pressure just with gatewayunits. They become insanely strong with the abilities they have (forcefield, guardian shield) and due to the range of the roach its not really able to make full potential of its "costs".

-_- and if 50% of you army is lifted its worth 0. Well not exactly zero since you still have to kill them, but 50% of your army can be nullified within seconds.
Yes, 50% of your army can be NULLIFIED within seconds. That's the whole point, nullfied and NOT killed. When I invest more ressources into "nullfying" something without actually being able to kill it, it's NOT cost-efficient.
.


That's where you are wrong. Nullifying something is better than killing - that's the whole point. If your phoenixes lift up my 8 hydras, not to mention they are going to kill most of them, my hydras were dealing 0 damage!


The phoenixes that are doing the lifting are also doing 0 damage, so the point is moot. Phoenixes don't just disable units. They disable themselves in the process.

This is why you need more phoenixes than hydras, or a lot of gateway support.
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
March 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#2588
On March 01 2011 22:33 Lobo2me wrote:
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On March 01 2011 22:30 Housemd wrote:
Just wanted to ask, if two people get the same number of points, do they play like a tiebreaker or something?

Since they are playing BO3 I reckon they would look at how the scores in the games went (one player went 8-5 and other went 8-6, player that went 8-5 advances) and/or look at the result in their BO3.


Yea, I was thinking that too, I am trying to see which players are out and which are still in. I think the tiebreaker will probably be the series the two players played against each other?
Fantasy is a beast
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
March 01 2011 13:34 GMT
#2589
On March 01 2011 22:31 NikonTC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:27 ccHaZaRd wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:25 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:21 Gunman_csz wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:16 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:12 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:10 LittLeD wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Protoss is just beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry to say that, but Phoenix buff is just not reasonable by Blizzard. And if you say its because MorroW commited to the roachrush, its not true. It can look absolutely the same even with hydras on the field, since you can just lift up everything and Hydras suffer even more from Phoenixdamage.

Im sorry to say, but Ace is just better than Morrow in this series. Nothing to do with Imbalances.


He raped IdrA the same way. With what was the Phoenix buff reasonable? Its a 200 HP (80 Shields, 120 HP) unit , fastest in the game with a very unique ability. I don't see the reason why you would buff its building time when it was insanely good to begin with.

Also the Colossus - the other tech tree - 350 HP Range 6 in the beginning, range 9 after with 30 AoE damage. Its just ridiculous and Blizzard just nerfed the wrong stuff with the Templar. (well it was the right nerf, but the nerf was too hard while leaving the Colossus WHICH DOES COUNTER EVERYTHING(!) better than its designed counters better than them untouched) -_-

Holy damn, you sure like whining. I always see you in these LR thread complaining about imbalances and why the german player didnt advance bla bla bla. Yeah, sure you obviously know better than Blizzard, who has 100 000 matches of data to go by to balance the game. Why don't you aply for a blizzard job?


He is not whining but stating his opinion, and it is widely accepted that PvZ is broken! even Protoss programers say it (Hell even Ace himself said it, check Artotsis interview!), so ......

Plus blizzard makes mistakes and are constantly balancing the game. look at the amount of times they have been tinkering with the bunker alone..

My point being: Stop talking about balance all together. its useless. Focus on improving your own game because if you're losing, it was YOU who did something wrong, not anything else. Watch the replay, analyze what you did wrong, what could've been done differently etc. Being stuck in this "Pheonixes are just too good" mentality does nothing but hurt you in improving.


lol i bet you wouldn't say that to idra


I would :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

Tell me that doesn't describe IdrA to a T. And most of the TL forums for that matter...

Except IdrA is the actual progamer here, and you posting this "cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions" is the exact definition of this.

Just stop insulting progamers. IdrA isn't even allowed to defend his opinions.
TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
March 01 2011 13:35 GMT
#2590
wich stream are playing? theres a man talking. he looks like someone of the sopranos
NapstaR
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany128 Posts
March 01 2011 13:35 GMT
#2591
actually intel pays most of this show ^^ no doubt they want some advertisement time too :D
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
March 01 2011 13:35 GMT
#2592
No games are currently going on, wait a little bit.
Zorkey
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands167 Posts
March 01 2011 13:35 GMT
#2593
(my opinion)its not really that 1 unit is OP for protoss. its just easy for them to force you todo 1 thing. and they just "counter" that. wich you have to "counter" again, and so on, your always trailing the facts.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2594
On March 01 2011 22:34 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 22:25 vyyye wrote:
On March 01 2011 22:24 Nimic wrote:
Does the HD stream keep buffering for anyone else? It isn't constantly, but still often enough to make it quite annoying to watch.

Is on your end, been fine for me since the first game of the day.


There's no way my connection can't handle it. Particularly since I watched GSL in HQ with no problems an hour ago.


This HD Stream is a lot higher res and bitrate then the GSL HQ stream.
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Lori_ftw
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany286 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2595
Go buy Intel CPUs, if you don't already have one!
möp
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 13:36:33
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2596
On March 01 2011 22:35 TeMiL wrote:
wich stream are playing? theres a man talking. he looks like someone of the sopranos


He is. He is talking about a processor. You have to sit it out

Edit: appears he's done ^^
We know nothing.
robice
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Germany114 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2597
Haha the promoter of Intel is sooo bad. Everyone whos still in the hall should be sleeping by now.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2598
well wow. This has officially made me decide to go to sleep (and miss some very interesting games).
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2599
Oh.
My.
God.
What the fuck was that?
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 01 2011 13:36 GMT
#2600
Very strange that they are playing on 4:3 screens. Must feel really fucked up, I did'nt even think they made screens in 4:3 anymore
I am not young enough to know everything.
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