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Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
January 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#81
Owned doesnt work for me right now, is there another stream or restream?
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#82
russian host is amazing, speaks at least 4 languages and is knowledgable about all the games alike.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 23 2011 12:39 GMT
#83
From what I've seen I'd much rather watch a bit of QL than anymore CS, so I'm not complaining that the SC is a little delayed today ^^
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 12:42 GMT
#84
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#85
cooller needs to keep his cool
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 23 2011 12:46 GMT
#86
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.

it's hard to commentate CS. it's a game where skill is in extremely small nuisances that happen all over the map. Even the amazing shots are hard to appreciate you pretty much would need a slow mo cam to really enjoy them.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 12:51:43
January 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#87
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.


On January 23 2011 21:46 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.

it's hard to commentate CS. it's a game where skill is in extremely small nuisances that happen all over the map. Even the amazing shots are hard to appreciate you pretty much would need a slow mo cam to really enjoy them.


Well, yes and no. When many people say there's a lot happening around the map, that's not particularly true. Most of the time teams don't initiate action at both sites at the same time. Even if they split a single site, their opponents usually put pressure on one side of a site's entry versus the other which delays action on one of the sides. Plus, by looking at the overviews and positioning, most of the commentators know where the action will take place and by whom.

The slow-mo option was once in the game in previous versions, but as 1.6 was updated over the years, it broke the auto-director feature and eliminated slow-motion. I think it can still be enabled, but it's not nearly as cool as it once was in 1.5 and previous versions.
@colindeshong
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
January 23 2011 12:47 GMT
#88
QuakeLive is amazing. If there's one competitive game that Starcraft 2 fans should also follow it's Quake. The amount of detail that goes into this game is absolutely crazy, it's the same feeling I get when I watch an amazing SC2 player.

Strenx played t7 damn well, his rockets are amazingly on target.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 23 2011 12:48 GMT
#89
QL is indeed much nicer to watch than CS. but im suffering from gaming sickness and had to stop watching after 5 minutes. ..... watching very quickly moving 3d images from an ego perspective gives me headache and makes me feel sick.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Eggcake
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland722 Posts
January 23 2011 12:50 GMT
#90
OMG those rails from cooller!
Ser3nitynow
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden89 Posts
January 23 2011 12:50 GMT
#91
whiteraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lets go!
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
January 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#92
is there a difference between quake live and quake3?
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 12:53 GMT
#93
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
January 23 2011 12:55 GMT
#94
GO STRENX
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 12:56 GMT
#95
wow at one time it hought strenx would die

wow 9k viewers but going to be more when sc2 coms up
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 12:59:49
January 23 2011 12:56 GMT
#96
On January 23 2011 21:53 philly5man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.

Actually I'd say only Artosis does actually know high-level play, as an actual player I'd say that HDGamer would be at least close to being better at SC2 than either Day9 or Tasteless. '

Quake seems like fun to watch, really fast-paced. I don't really like FPS in general but this seems allright, Gunz is fine as well.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
January 23 2011 12:56 GMT
#97
On January 23 2011 21:52 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
is there a difference between quake live and quake3?


There are a few differences with physics, damage of weapons, etc
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 23 2011 12:56 GMT
#98
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:46 Sfydjklm wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.

it's hard to commentate CS. it's a game where skill is in extremely small nuisances that happen all over the map. Even the amazing shots are hard to appreciate you pretty much would need a slow mo cam to really enjoy them.


Well, yes and no. When many people say there's a lot happening around the map, that's not particularly true. Most of the time teams don't initiate action at both sites at the same time. Even if they split a single site, their opponents usually put pressure on one side of a site's entry versus the other which delays action on one of the sides. Plus, by looking at the overviews and positioning, most of the commentators know where the action will take place and by whom.

No i don't mean it action wise, i mean strategical decisions wise.

The slow-mo option was once in the game in previous versions, but as 1.6 was updated over the years, it broke the auto-director feature and eliminated slow-motion. I think it can still be enabled, but it's not nearly as cool as it once was in 1.5 and previous versions.

well this is the sort of thing im talking in particular:


You can't appreciate this shot unless there is a replay and slow mo function
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 12:58:35
January 23 2011 12:57 GMT
#99
On January 23 2011 21:52 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
is there a difference between quake live and quake3?


I can't touch on this too much as the exact changes are unknown but there is differences. I believe CPMA (a mod) for Quake 3 was used during its competitive cycle which dramatically changed how the players moved compared to Quake Live. Also, other things like tweaked weapon damage (most notably, the Lightning Gun... and the Railgun, maybe?)

Funnily enough, even after the switch to Quake Live the top players from Quake 3 basically maintained their dominance. (Cypher, Cooler, Rapha, DaHanG, Spartie, etc...)
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
January 23 2011 12:57 GMT
#100
On January 23 2011 21:56 ZeraToss wrote:
wow at one time it hought strenx would die

wow 9k viewers but going to be more when sc2 coms up

its actually more than 9k, since there are also some on the premium stream ^^ (+ i think there is also a russian stream )
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