• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 12:41
CET 18:41
KST 02:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1303 users

[IEM] EU Finals Day 4 - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 102 Next
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#121
On January 23 2011 22:01 lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:53 philly5man wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.


I can't think of a time in CS history where a well-known player was also a commentator consistently. In over the past decade of following CS, the moments I recall having players commentate were extremely rare and when they did they said very little. CS is no longer very strategically uniform in nature which makes it difficult to predict the movements of a given team (unless in obvious rush and splits which aren't very common anymore). I definitely see the value in having a knowledgeable commentator, but Joe doesn't need to beat Fnatic in order to know what both the trends are in-game and the players that will make a big difference in rounds.


Yeah, fair point. For me, over the years the best commentary has been provided when a host (like Joe), has been joined by a current pro (like Vesslan or Xeqtr a few years ago, or Carn or similar, more recently).
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#122
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#123
I'd rage so hard at this tbh. Still, baller Cooler comment. :> Horrible horrible admins.
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#124
Come on make a decision so we can get some SC on the go!
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
January 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#125
Cooller alltimes lucky
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#126
sooo frustrating for players i suppose, i think they'll replay
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 13:14:10
January 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#127
Altthough I generally dont care about quake, watching this made me so angry.
Basically Strenx was dominating until the lags, he would have had this easily.
Off-season = best season
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#128
On January 23 2011 22:11 cArn- wrote:
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller


??? Cooler also had laggz so he was just lucky to get the fragz....
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
January 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#129
On January 23 2011 22:11 cArn- wrote:
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller

yeah right...it´s not like cooller didn´t have lags and asked for pause during the game...
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#130
lol i can't is something up with the stream?
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#131
Is the stream lagging really bad for anyone else?
Also pretty disgraceful admin work.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#132
Anyone elses stream just died?
It appears I have been chosen.
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#133
On January 23 2011 22:15 ZeraToss wrote:
lol i can't is something up with the stream?


They are just taking a short break waiting for admin decision. o.O
Lyrok
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany85 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#134
Streams down @ ESL page?
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#135
Stream down or is it just me?
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#136
Yep. Stream has gone.
phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#137
yep, stream is dead.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2609 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#138
On January 23 2011 22:15 Lyrok wrote:
Streams down @ ESL page?


no just f5
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
anzient
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark119 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#139
my premium is down
"Protoss make phoenix, Terran make banchee, Protoss win" <3 MC
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#140
own3d having some problems, they're usually good about getting it back up quickly at least ><
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 102 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 19h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 494
RotterdaM 282
trigger 75
BRAT_OK 69
RushiSC 35
MindelVK 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22748
EffOrt 923
Stork 528
ggaemo 350
firebathero 249
Barracks 200
PianO 76
Hyun 68
Aegong 53
Zeus 46
[ Show more ]
soO 38
yabsab 31
Sexy 25
ToSsGirL 25
Movie 19
SilentControl 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe1172
League of Legends
C9.Mang0119
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr66
Other Games
Grubby4908
Gorgc2678
FrodaN790
B2W.Neo339
ToD234
Liquid`VortiX155
Mew2King115
IndyStarCraft 112
Livibee108
QueenE90
monkeys_forever63
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 40
• naamasc233
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3965
Other Games
• WagamamaTV211
• Shiphtur48
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 19h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
3 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.