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philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#121
On January 23 2011 22:01 lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:53 philly5man wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.


I can't think of a time in CS history where a well-known player was also a commentator consistently. In over the past decade of following CS, the moments I recall having players commentate were extremely rare and when they did they said very little. CS is no longer very strategically uniform in nature which makes it difficult to predict the movements of a given team (unless in obvious rush and splits which aren't very common anymore). I definitely see the value in having a knowledgeable commentator, but Joe doesn't need to beat Fnatic in order to know what both the trends are in-game and the players that will make a big difference in rounds.


Yeah, fair point. For me, over the years the best commentary has been provided when a host (like Joe), has been joined by a current pro (like Vesslan or Xeqtr a few years ago, or Carn or similar, more recently).
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#122
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#123
I'd rage so hard at this tbh. Still, baller Cooler comment. :> Horrible horrible admins.
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
philly5man
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom356 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#124
Come on make a decision so we can get some SC on the go!
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
January 23 2011 13:12 GMT
#125
Cooller alltimes lucky
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#126
sooo frustrating for players i suppose, i think they'll replay
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 13:14:10
January 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#127
Altthough I generally dont care about quake, watching this made me so angry.
Basically Strenx was dominating until the lags, he would have had this easily.
Off-season = best season
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#128
On January 23 2011 22:11 cArn- wrote:
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller


??? Cooler also had laggz so he was just lucky to get the fragz....
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
January 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#129
On January 23 2011 22:11 cArn- wrote:
fucking douchebags really, I bet they did it on purpose that's way too good for cooller

yeah right...it´s not like cooller didn´t have lags and asked for pause during the game...
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#130
lol i can't is something up with the stream?
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#131
Is the stream lagging really bad for anyone else?
Also pretty disgraceful admin work.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#132
Anyone elses stream just died?
It appears I have been chosen.
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#133
On January 23 2011 22:15 ZeraToss wrote:
lol i can't is something up with the stream?


They are just taking a short break waiting for admin decision. o.O
Lyrok
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany85 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#134
Streams down @ ESL page?
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#135
Stream down or is it just me?
Raskit
Profile Joined July 2009
579 Posts
January 23 2011 13:15 GMT
#136
Yep. Stream has gone.
phos4
Profile Joined October 2009
Germany226 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#137
yep, stream is dead.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2608 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#138
On January 23 2011 22:15 Lyrok wrote:
Streams down @ ESL page?


no just f5
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
anzient
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark119 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#139
my premium is down
"Protoss make phoenix, Terran make banchee, Protoss win" <3 MC
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#140
own3d having some problems, they're usually good about getting it back up quickly at least ><
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