• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:52
CEST 11:52
KST 18:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 638 users

[IEM] EU Finals Day 4 - Page 6

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 102 Next
wopaahh
Profile Joined January 2011
150 Posts
January 23 2011 13:00 GMT
#101
On January 23 2011 21:57 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:56 ZeraToss wrote:
wow at one time it hought strenx would die

wow 9k viewers but going to be more when sc2 coms up

its actually more than 9k, since there are also some on the premium stream ^^ (+ i think there is also a russian stream )

ye 6k http://www.own3d.tv/live/17481 rus stream also
EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
January 23 2011 13:01 GMT
#102
On January 23 2011 21:53 philly5man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.


I can't think of a time in CS history where a well-known player was also a commentator consistently. In over the past decade of following CS, the moments I recall having players commentate were extremely rare and when they did they said very little. CS is no longer very strategically uniform in nature which makes it difficult to predict the movements of a given team (unless in obvious rush and splits which aren't very common anymore). I definitely see the value in having a knowledgeable commentator, but Joe doesn't need to beat Fnatic in order to know what both the trends are in-game and the players that will make a big difference in rounds.
@colindeshong
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:02 GMT
#103
Quake is such a nice spectator game.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 23 2011 13:03 GMT
#104
On January 23 2011 21:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:53 philly5man wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:47 lectR wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:42 philly5man wrote:
The commentators usually know so little about competitive CS that it makes the game boring. Need people that actually know the highest level of the game to commentate, not people that have dabbled in it.


Isn't Joe the commentator for CS as well? If so, he has plenty of experience.



He's English and has been commentating CS games for ages, and that's pretty much my reasoning for saying that commentators don't know the game enough. I'm English and played at the top level for a while and I've never played against him. You only know so much from watching the game. Why does everyone respect the commentary of Day9, Artosis, Tasteless etc? Because they know the game through playing it at the highest level.

Actually I'd say only Artosis does actually know high-level play, as an actual player I'd say that HDGamer would be at least close to being better at SC2 than either Day9 or Tasteless. '


I don't know about HD's accomplishments. What are they? Day9 and Tasteless both competed at WCG tournaments (among others) for BW and Day9 at least was A on ICCup, a level that translates roughly to really-fucking-great in SC2. No, Day nor Tasteless have played at the top level of SC2 but their BW pasts are pretty impressive. They've focused on commentating now but the games are similar and the experience carries over.
:O
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 23 2011 13:04 GMT
#105
On January 23 2011 21:57 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:56 ZeraToss wrote:
wow at one time it hought strenx would die

wow 9k viewers but going to be more when sc2 coms up

its actually more than 9k, since there are also some on the premium stream ^^ (+ i think there is also a russian stream )


lol forgot about that thx, maybe its 20k? any body knows how much ppl watchin premium
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
wopaahh
Profile Joined January 2011
150 Posts
January 23 2011 13:05 GMT
#106
On January 23 2011 22:04 ZeraToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 21:57 mdma-_- wrote:
On January 23 2011 21:56 ZeraToss wrote:
wow at one time it hought strenx would die

wow 9k viewers but going to be more when sc2 coms up

its actually more than 9k, since there are also some on the premium stream ^^ (+ i think there is also a russian stream )


lol forgot about that thx, maybe its 20k? any body knows how much ppl watchin premium

premium doesn't have a viewer counter
Hirnfrost
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany938 Posts
January 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#107
lol nice pause....
After Mondays and Tuesdays even the Calender says W T F
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#108
R O F L M A O

Strenx is gonna beat an admin, no doubt
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
January 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#109
Wow, worst fucking admins ever? Lets just have them play with lag when both are complaining, then pause just at the end? :>
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-23 13:09:40
January 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#110
.
Never seen that, took 3min for someone to react to that...
NoiR
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
January 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#111
lol, strenx gotta be pissed

he said 'lags, pause' at 5-1 and it paused at 5-6 ololol

wtf^^
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#112
Cooller with that pimp-bigsmile haha.
It appears I have been chosen.
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
January 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#113
what the fuck is this seriously ?
Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
BasedSwag
Profile Joined April 2010
Algeria418 Posts
January 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#114
On January 23 2011 22:09 chrisolo wrote:
lol, strenx gotta be pissed

he said 'lags, pause' at 5-1 and it paused at 5-6 ololol

wtf^^


Russian admins
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#115
On January 23 2011 22:09 BasedSwag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 22:09 chrisolo wrote:
lol, strenx gotta be pissed

he said 'lags, pause' at 5-1 and it paused at 5-6 ololol

wtf^^


Russian admins

the admins are from ESL.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
January 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#116
wow... i would rage so hard :D
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#117
Big drama incoming! xD
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#118
Cooller is such a baller ;d.
It appears I have been chosen.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#119
QL manner community :D!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
iamcup
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
January 23 2011 13:11 GMT
#120
wow admins really messed up
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 102 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 281
mouzHeroMarine 176
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 10647
Hyuk 1729
ggaemo 1552
Horang2 1137
firebathero 911
Hyun 661
Larva 610
actioN 445
Noble 233
Leta 173
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 117
Mong 99
EffOrt 65
ivOry 7
Sharp 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever636
XcaliburYe569
ODPixel135
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1136
Super Smash Bros
Westballz37
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor276
Other Games
gofns6440
Fuzer 203
Mew2King72
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2042
UltimateBattle 161
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta43
• LUISG 10
• Dystopia_ 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV560
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9m
CranKy Ducklings10
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4h 9m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
6h 9m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 1h
OSC
1d 14h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.