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No balance whining. 2-day temp bans will be handed out like candy.
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#801
On January 23 2011 14:51 EzCheeze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 14:50 allowicious wrote:
I'm pretty sure MVP was a lot more cost effective in that first huge battle. The lings and banelings clumped up way too much on the ramp, and a few tank shots killed all of them. So even though MVP lost that actual battle, I think MVP still came out ahead in terms of cost effectiveness, since more than 90% of Nestea's lings/banelings did nothing. Once the speedlings/blings died, all Nestea really had was mutas, which were cleaned up by better upgraded marines.


When isn't terran more cost-effective?


What I meant, was he was way more cost-effective than he should have been. Given a wide open area and those two exact same armies, Nestea would have absolutely rolled MVP with far less losses.
lalalalala~~~
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#802
that tank on the ramp was fucking crucial

i was surprised that MVP was able to conjure up that much shit on 2 base. i think he was just pressuring with that 1 tank with the marine drops in the high ground while macroing up a mega army back home. although the reinforcements nestea picked off seemed like a good amount...

MVP just too crazy good + tank on ramp.
MahatmaSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#803
And that, my friends, is why MVP is the no1 player in the world.
Team ZeNEX fighting!
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#804
This is the problem with Tastosis hyping NesTea up too much after game 1. People think he's perfect when he actually made a lot of mistakes in that game. Just take off the tinted glasses people and really think hard about the game.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Knutzi
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway664 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#805
fuck was hoping nestea would take this in a quick 3-0 so i can watch jinro before i go to bed : (
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#806
On January 23 2011 14:51 smocca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 14:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On January 23 2011 14:47 Fruscainte wrote:
It seems like there are only like 30 people there

-_-

Considering they just had to move everyone forward so they could add more seats.... No, wtf are you basing that on?


Awesome ty for posting that.



Yeah thanks

I guess it's just the camera angles that I think there are so little people there. Fan fucking tastic news that it is packed. How many people are there, if anyone knows?
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#807
The big mistake wasn't just the tech structure placement. It was the fact that Nestea didn't have 2 carapace to counteract 2-2 marines. Another mistake was the lack of hatcheries. Nestea's money was through the roof. MVP's pressure probably caused Nestea to forget to add hatcheries so that he'd have enough larvae to spend everything.
REEBUH!!!
CarlyZerg
Profile Joined December 2010
United States113 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#808
On January 23 2011 14:48 LunarC wrote:
2-2 marines rape 2-0 zerglings and 0-0 mutas.


This was the other problem, if you got 3 bases you should really be hitting 3 simultaneous upgrades (1 for air, 2 for ground out of double evo).
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#809
On January 23 2011 14:52 5unrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 14:50 SilverJohnny wrote:
People balance whining from bronze league need to sit down. MVP played really damn smart, NesTea didn't get "abused" by a broken race, he got beat by a really strong 2base attack that was planned perfectly based on positions.


yeah obv all the whining here are from bronze league. Can't people like you learn that posting smartass comments like that will just incite more "whining"



In North Korea? WTF does that mean? How do you have access to the internet?
Jieun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States247 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#810
This entire game made me facepalm, both players played like shit.

MVP let his 16 marine squad die to 3 banelings, Nestea rebuilds his tech at his natural (wtf?). Nestea crushes MVP's marines and leaves the tank at the ramp only to run into the base of MVP and lose all his mutas...

I honestly feel like I was watching a gold level game.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#811
Can we just say stuff about players and forget about words op up map position etc ?
Blistering is kind hard for a third I guess .... or the next is jungle ?
Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#812
I think that MVP actually made more mistakes and lost more units for no reward yet he still won the game. Marines seem to be "throw away" units yet they do sick sick damage, especially deadly with those upgrades.

I don't think moving the tech tree or lair would have made any difference there. In fact I don't even see how a Zerg can stop that if the Terran plays methodically enough :S
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#813
Jinro on the screen, practicing :O
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#814
On January 23 2011 14:51 Zerglot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 14:47 mango_destroyer wrote:
MVP had much more superior upgrades not sure why everyone saying NesTea outplayed MVP.


If you bothered to look it was 2-1 ground and 2-0 air for nestea vs 2-2 marines and 0-0 tanks


Exactly bro, superior upgrades. Or you cant count?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#815
@The mods, Are you guys going to be giving out weeklong temp bans for balance discussion in the finals thread next week?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#816
Nestea thought that MVP's entire force was at the rocks so he wasn't as careful as he should have been, while MVP held a few back because he knew Nestea was going to try to counter.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#817
yeah obv all the whining here are from bronze league. Can't people like you learn that posting smartass comments like that will just incite more "whining"

They might as well be, compared to the level of play here.
How about you guys take your whining somewhere else? See the big banner and the red text?
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#818
You have to remember, those extra bases are 600minerals that probably didn't pay for themselves. Rather than being a benefit they were most likely a hindrance to stopping that attack. Except for maybe the extra larva.
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#819
Just because u guys spotted no mistakes doesnt mean he played a perfect game... how can u guys have such a strong opinion about that anyway without watching the replay. o.O

-Baneling movement wasn't to good.
-Lost to much mutas and didn't kill enough from the reinforcements.
-Counterattack was bad, because he had still terran units in his base and no banelings left.

That were the major flaws i saw in that game from nestea .. but i guess there were a lot more.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
January 23 2011 05:53 GMT
#820
On January 23 2011 14:52 skrzmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 14:50 speedphlux wrote:
Why is the GSL starting earlier and earlier ?!
At first, it was 1 PM my time - perfect time for watching StarCraft 2. Then it moved to 11 AM my time and today, I gotta fucking wake up at 7 AM to watch one of the most important games in StarCraft 2 history ?! I mean, WTF ?! Are you serious ?
Why are they doing this ? Can someone explain the poor stupid bastard ?
Thanks in advance !


uh shadd up we gotta like watch it at 4 am everyday this change is decent for people in the west

Sometimes the games aren't even over before I have to go to school.
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