I kinda feel that had nestea done exactly what he did except placed his lair and tech structures at his natural/third he'd had been so much better off. He couldve sacced the main and went for the big push as T went through the open main area rather than at the choke.

Easy to say as a spectator though...

MrCon

France29748 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#762

Nestea rebuilding his tech structure in his nat when his main is being destroyed and he has a fourth far away makes me sad...
And taking a quick 4th and making no upgrade at all then being rolled by 2-2 (then 3-2) bio and 2-0 mech is not smart too :/

Blue

Norway359 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#763

how can I listen to the koreans commentators?

soupchicken

United States322 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#764

I've had a lot of success with infestors vs. that army composition. fungal the bio and use infested terran to abuse seige tank friendly fire. I'm not sure why I never see this in high level play, there probably is a reason, but tank marine pushes don't really scare me anymore. I feel like if you substituted his 20 mutas for 10 infestors, this would have been a different game.

Then I'm nowhere near as good as Nestea or Idra so there has to be a reason why I never see this in pro play.

PikaXchU

Singapore379 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#765

The battle pretty much came down to that siege tank at the ramp, which created a small choke which bunched up NesTea's units which died to siege tank splash. Also to note, NesTea could have attacked the rocks with the Mutas, causing the attacks to bounce off to the marines and siege tanks behind it.

SilverJohnny

United States885 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#766

People balance whining from bronze league need to sit down. MVP played really damn smart, NesTea didn't get "abused" by a broken race, he got beat by a really strong 2base attack that was planned perfectly based on positions.

a176

Canada6688 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#767

zerg does not need saturated bases to maintain zergling production

SilverLeagueElite

United States626 Posts

January 23 2011 05:50 GMT

#768

Does Incredible Miracle team have any sponsors? I don't see any on the clothes they wear.

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#769

That was pretty bad play, after using all his banelings to kill the army, he counter attacked with pure ling/muta at a ramp against a big ball of marines.

I'm rooting for MVP but that was =\ to see Nestea screw up so bad.

CarlyZerg

United States113 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#770

crazy fucking games so far, Nestea won the game he looked liek he was losing and so did MvP

smocca

United States83 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#771

On January 23 2011 14:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

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Considering they just had to move everyone forward so they could add more seats.... No, wtf are you basing that on?

Awesome ty for posting that.

StyLeD

United States2965 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#772

On January 23 2011 14:48 1Eris1 wrote:
Im a zerg and I can say that MVP just has amazing macro. He played that 100%, never giving up. Nestea played about 99.9999999% perfect =(

Maybe for the first half of the game, then

1) getting a fast 4th but not droning it
2) sacrificing half of his army to take out marines while the tanks got a couple rounds off each
3) sacrificing the other half to take out marines of equal number

He threw away his entire army going after marines, and by the time he realized he blew his load he had 2k in the bank constantly and no way to spend it.

In actually his mistakes were very very small in number, but I wouldn't say he played perfect or near-perfect as you say. Throwing away your entire army b/c you get overeager for a win isn't 99.999%

KorvMoij

Sweden327 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#773

On January 23 2011 14:49 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

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Considering they just had to move everyone forward so they could add more seats.... No, wtf are you basing that on?

jag hatar tidzoner :/ att vakna såhär tidigt borde vara olagligt i sverige

but really good gamegood counter by the terran

Zerglot

Australia229 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#774

On January 23 2011 14:47 mango_destroyer wrote:
MVP had much more superior upgrades not sure why everyone saying NesTea outplayed MVP.

If you bothered to look it was 2-1 ground and 2-0 air for nestea vs 2-2 marines and 0-0 tanks

inamazon

Canada21 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#775

gl jinro!

jalstar

United States8198 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#776

On January 23 2011 14:50 speedphlux wrote:
Why is the GSL starting earlier and earlier ?!
At first, it was 1 PM my time - perfect time for watching StarCraft 2. Then it moved to 11 AM my time and today, I gotta fucking wake up at 7 AM to watch one of the most important games in StarCraft 2 history ?! I mean, WTF ?! Are you serious ?
Why are they doing this ? Can someone explain the poor stupid bastard ?
Thanks in advance !

US viewers always have to stay up until 3-6 AM to watch the game, Euros have no right to complain about this lol.

hewtrain

Australia89 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#777

mods are such butthurt idiots

User was banned for this post.

Cryptic

Canada44 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#778

Nestea was behind on ups and had about 2.5k/1.5k in the bank. He could have played that better and it would have been a lot more even.
Macro mistake by Nestea not getting the extra hatches he needed to support such an early 4 base cost him the game. I am curious how it would have played out if he had been able to spend all of his money, though; you don't often see 4 base full power.

EzCheeze

United States81 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#779

On January 23 2011 14:50 allowicious wrote:
I'm pretty sure MVP was a lot more cost effective in that first huge battle. The lings and banelings clumped up way too much on the ramp, and a few tank shots killed all of them. So even though MVP lost that actual battle, I think MVP still came out ahead in terms of cost effectiveness, since more than 90% of Nestea's lings/banelings did nothing. Once the speedlings/blings died, all Nestea really had was mutas, which were cleaned up by better upgraded marines.

When isn't terran more cost-effective?

User was temp banned for this post.

kiniko

Canada163 Posts

January 23 2011 05:51 GMT

#780

On January 23 2011 14:48 MrCon wrote:

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::mod edit::

There will be no balance complaints, racial whining, any further stupid fucking comments in this, or any other GSL thread. I'm tired of having to go through the thread and ban people who think they're so clever and witty after terran wins a game and say "oh so u still dont think terran is op wololololol". It's not funny, and it leads to unnecessary flamewars and heated discussions which are NOT needed in a Live Report thread. That means stupid shit like "sc2 is better than bw", "he threw the match", etc. are all bannable.

If you fail to heed this warning you will be issued with a 2-day temp ban, ezpz.

hero mod

now lets get back to discussing the game instead of discussing balance