EPTIt is a cultural thing: those words are very strong and are to be avoided in but the most extreme of situations. That's not to say there is a draconian suppression of works containing swearing: swearing is allowed on TV after 10, on cable at all times, and in limited, relevant context during the day.
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
It is a cultural thing: those words are very strong and are to be avoided in but the most extreme of situations. That's not to say there is a draconian suppression of works containing swearing: swearing is allowed on TV after 10, on cable at all times, and in limited, relevant context during the day. | ||
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Tomo009
Australia96 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:30 Jibba wrote: Because it's less socially acceptable to swear publicly in the US and Canada. You can argue about the etymology and significance all you want, but it's simply a different culture. Changing the way someone thinks on a website is not the same as changing society at large. But it's an international broadcast, therefore there are obviously going to be culture differences. Truth is in a lot of places people just don't care about words, Australian media is heavily censored but you can't walk 10m in most public areas without someone screaming profanity in one way or another. Clearly hyperbole but people just accept it generally, it's stranger for someone to be offended and call someone out on it, in fact it is almost socially wrong to do so. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:30 Talin wrote: It's just mindblowing. Makes me wonder how much EG has to fail (as a team, so not only clinging to Idra's individual success) for people to get off hyping their roster which is sub-par even by American standards. =/ Unless they buy a whole new roster, the house in Korea won't do much good. That's maybe a bit bold statement. It's however clear that idra is byfar their best player, saying they are subpar or worse than koreans however... I think Code A is making it quite clear, there's plenty of room for foreigners in there, and the best in code S. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
i dunno about the swearing but ive been playing Hon and the majority of the people swear like crap. mostly from EU. seriously, they swearing is nonstop to the point of making no sense anyways, like the results. | ||
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Eggcake
Switzerland722 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:34 Tomo009 wrote: But it's an international broadcast, therefore there are obviously going to be culture differences. Truth is in a lot of places people just don't care about words, Australian media is heavily censored but you can't walk 10m in most public areas without someone screaming profanity in one way or another. Clearly hyperbole but people just accept it generally, it's more strange for someone to be offended and call someone out on it, in fact it is almost socially wrong to do so. Well if we consider all of the cultures globally, then no matter what somebody does or says or how he approaches the interview, from at least one culture's point of view he will be doing something wrong anyway. In such a situation, it's best just to express yourself and your own culture in your interview, and only avoid things that are universally frowned upon (which swearing by no means is). | ||
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pAzand
Sweden539 Posts
And btw, one of the main reasons swearing is so accepted here in Sweden are AMERICAN culture (Music, sitcoms etc). And yeah, we're also not hipocrytical americans  | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:35 Zarahtra wrote: That's maybe a bit bold statement. It's however clear that idra is byfar their best player, saying they are subpar or worse than koreans however... I think Code A is making it quite clear, there's plenty of room for foreigners in there, and the best in code S. This is the beginning of the first round of code A. I think it will go way uphill from here, once all the lesser players get weeded out. | ||
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LunArMerlin
Germany119 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:29 fUddO wrote: I know that, but parents don't tend to think that way. . Because someone mentioned Germany earlier I might want to throw something interesting in this discussion: In Germany it is actually considered that swearing has positiv effect to Children as long as it is a form of letting out frustrations or anger unless it is not directed towards the parents and / or the government. German literature often advise parents to let their children swear from time to time, but being cautious about not letting it get out of control. (For those of you, who can read german here's a little exam of that: http://books.google.com/books?id=CMbKZY0c7c0C&pg=PA29 ) | ||
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:29 esperanto wrote: Actually there is not (ppl just dont say german cursewords that often on tv, when they do its not censored). Some talkshows in the 90s put in the "beep" sound, but only to look like american talkshows... But you are right its like the german censoring of too violent contents in videogames (green blood etc...), gotta respect other cultures. Anyway... thanks Idra and Jinro, you made awesome games today. All the time I sitting at my desk ripping apart random papersheets I found cause the tension was killing me. Thats the kind of games we wanna see. Awesome skill, long back and forth games. I hope you both advance at least in ro8. Good luck. No you absolutly mustn't respect cultures for having unfounded & backward beliefs about the correlation between cursing/seeing red blood/etc & turning into a psychopath. Next thing you'll be respecting people killing women for being raped. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + It's from an old swedish television show aimed mostly at children. The guy says like ''Goddamn fucking piece of shit car''. XD The american culture regarding this makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
Its not that the US is prissy about swearing in everyday life its that on television the programs are rated much the same as films due to language content as well as the voilence nudity etc. If you have swearing then it doesnt get to go on in a prime TV spot so hence they dont like unnecessary swearing. Really isnt an issue with internet television though unless you are aiming to open it to a wider audience later. I also believe this is the case in some of the countries people are saying its fine to swear on TV. Yea it is but not during certain times of day when children are more likely to be watching it isnt. | ||
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zeru
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HAUER
Denmark208 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:34 InvalidID wrote:English has some of the "strongest" swear words of any language. For example, if Jinro had said "crap" it would have been fine for daytime American TV, but "shit" is not. That is simply not true. You've been well conditioned by the FCC I can tell. American curse words are rather weak without any punch to them. It only has an effect on American because you are used to them being 'bleeped' on television. Any English or Australian person would laugh at this... -.- | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
I DON'T SEE ENOUGH FOREIGNER CHEERING AND DISCUSSION FOR NEXT GROUPSTAGE!?!?!?!? | ||
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fryy
Australia103 Posts
Love how american tv wont allow swearing but its fine to kill and fire guns whenever you like. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On January 11 2011 23:40 HAUER wrote: That is simply not true. You've been well conditioned by the FCC I can tell. American curse words are rather weak without any punch to them. It only has an effect on American because you are used to them being 'bleeped' on television. Any English or Australian person would laugh at this... -.- A quick Google reveals that both England and Australia censor swearing on tv. | ||
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