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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:07 Shikyo wrote: I missed it, after how many Gateways did he place his Twilight Council? No one saw? By the way, it's really strange that the Blink stalker rush works so well against Zerg since both speedroaches and speedlings destroy the stalkers in cost even with blink. | ||
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Oleksandr
United States227 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:13 Shikyo wrote: No one saw? By the way, it's really strange that the Blink stalker rush works so well against Zerg since both speedroaches and speedlings destroy the stalkers in cost even with blink. What game are you playing? It sounds fun; I want in. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:13 Shikyo wrote: No one saw? By the way, it's really strange that the Blink stalker rush works so well against Zerg since both speedroaches and speedlings destroy the stalkers in cost even with blink. Speedroaches aren't out yet and speedlings only work against small balls when there's lots of lings. Throw in a FF or Zealot and it's quite a lot worse. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:17 wintergt wrote: I missed the games vs nestea (preparations for newyear's party), were they worth watching? No, they were two typical protoss all-ins and nestea was completely unprepared both times | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:16 Numy wrote: Speedroaches aren't out yet and speedlings only work against small balls when there's lots of lings. Throw in a FF or Zealot and it's quite a lot worse. Well it isn't like Blink gives additional damage, so if you don't micro your Stalkers will lose as hard as before. Blink mostly creates a positional advantage and the ability to take badly damaged stalker out of battle so they can recharge their shields. | ||
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Mangooze
Netherlands301 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:20 Saechiis wrote: Well it isn't like Blink gives additional damage, so if you don't micro your Stalkers will lose as hard as before. Blink mostly creates a positional advantage and the ability to take badly damaged stalker out of battle so they can recharge their shields. Think you underestimate blink. If the Zerg doesn't completely destroy the army after each engagement it becomes rather bad for him. The ability to save units is massive in a fight. It's kinda contrary to what Zergs like doing(Building as little army as possible). So it's deadly if not prepared for 100% | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:16 Numy wrote: Speedroaches aren't out yet and speedlings only work against small balls when there's lots of lings. Throw in a FF or Zealot and it's quite a lot worse. Well, blink Stalker normally doesn't really get sentries, so it's going to be 1 or 2 FF max and actually speedlings work just fine for cost vs even like 20 blink Stalkers(assuming you have the ~80+ speedlings you should). Oh but yeah if they abuse the terrain really well it's going to be a problem, but like that game Nestea just had 0 units. Also it doesn't matter if Z normally likes making as few units as possible since blink stalker like this is allin and if you hold it you win, so you should use every larva for units | ||
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debasers
737 Posts
On January 01 2011 00:15 Oleksandr wrote: What game are you playing? It sounds fun; I want in. 1 roach against 1 stalker, is dead even, sometimes they kill each other, the thing is, one roach are twice as cheap as a stalker. So, yeah, they are good against stalkers. | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
Thanks bro | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
Not sure the complete list of all that he has done... but anytime I see his name pop up it involves a lot of winning. Aside from the match against TOP he has been rolling. | ||
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koppik
United States676 Posts
Anyhow, I'm guessing that Terran all kill against Protoss in the TvP matchup would have gone the other way if MC started for the Protosses (and played). | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4556 Posts
On December 26 2010 11:59 bearhug wrote: That makes a lot of difference. MK plays safer now, meaning that no cheese like proxy zealot or VR attack can kill him. I think he will beat MC in the next GSL. As I thought, still not even. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
I haven't seen any unique builds from him, so is it just his unit control and game sense? Does he just know how to read situations better and choose the right build, then execute it better than anyone else? What's his secret? Most people were baffled by Fruitdealer's success in GSL 1, but came to discover that after any early aggression, his opponents would just let him be through the midgame and he would just drone/tech like crazy to get ahead(things have changed a lot since then and his success with that style has dwindled accordingly). Is MC doing something similar? Does he have some specific timings in his play style that allow him to get ahead but can be exploited? Or is it something else? What are other Protosses learning from him? | ||
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debasers
737 Posts
On January 01 2011 01:18 Tachion wrote: As someone who doesn't play Protoss I'm a bit baffled behind the reasons for MC's success. I haven't seen any unique builds from him, so is it just his unit control and game sense? Does he just know how to read situations better and choose the right build, then execute it better than anyone else? What's his secret? Most people were baffled by Fruitdealer's success in GSL 1, but came to discover that after any early aggression, his opponents would just let him be through the midgame and he would just drone/tech like crazy to get ahead(things have changed a lot since then and his success with that style has dwindled accordingly). Is MC doing something similar? Does he have some specific timings in his play style that allow him to get ahead but can be exploited? Or is it something else? What are other Protosses learning from him? Really? MC does builds that are VERY different from the normal Protoss guy, he has his own style and executes it almost perfectly. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On January 01 2011 01:21 debasers wrote: Really? MC does builds that are VERY different from the normal Protoss guy, he has his own style and executes it almost perfectly. That's awfully vague. Try to be more specific please. | ||
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