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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1181
Why no Marauders when he sees mass Roach? He had two Barracks with tech labs.
I am the Town Medic.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1182
On December 20 2010 12:01 SmoKim wrote:
this is pretty anti climatic, IdrA is outplaying qxc badly



That's not necessarily anti climactic for me. I'm sure closer games with nail-biting finishes would be unbelievably entertaining, yes, but its also somewhat epic to see the raw power of an unleashed gracken.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1183
qxc is great, but he has to practice vs rehab NA zerg all day while idra gets to practice vs top koreans.
Getz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States559 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1184
Its supposed to be this way.
Its like playing any already super hard game but playing it on insane difficulty.
If you can beat it you are rewarded greatly, if you fail you get nothing.
스타크래프트
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1185
On December 20 2010 12:02 coddan wrote:
Maybe they shouldn't have let idra choose all maps

lol yeh, even when the latency difference, IdrA would still have the edge on QXC. I dont think that was quite necessary but well, maybe it was IdrA's choice
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Lipski
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland373 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1186
lol, talk about outplayed when it's ZvT on scrap and blistering.
do you honestly think it wouldn't be different on delta and lt?
"i'll just train hard and win the next one"
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1187
so it turns out idra is pretty good
who knew?
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
December 20 2010 03:04 GMT
#1188
On December 20 2010 12:03 Hdizz wrote:
lame allowing idra to pick all the maps


Why?

Terrans usually say all maps are balanced.
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
December 20 2010 03:05 GMT
#1189
I find it really funny how QXC crushed everyone in the tourny and idrA so far is just destroying him.
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
December 20 2010 03:05 GMT
#1190
On December 20 2010 12:03 Hdizz wrote:
lame allowing idra to pick all the maps

How? It's their tournament, it was announced early. The grand prize is 1000$ and A CHANCE to win a laptop.

I'm confused how it's lame, it's not like they suddenly announced it, all contesters knew about it yet participated.
derp
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 03:05:35
December 20 2010 03:05 GMT
#1191
On December 20 2010 12:00 Unrealbr wrote:
The problem with this matchup is that it looks like QXC has some sort of fear when facing IdrA.
If i'm not mistaken qxc was smashed by IdrA in IEM and i guess that has stuck.
Watching these games against IdrA looks like it was me (bronze on ladder) training with a friend of mine (diamond on ladder)


QXC was the only player to put up much of a fight against IdrA during his MLG DC run (which is what I think you're talking about.) His TvZ is really good, IdrA is just playing really well. I don't think QXC is all that comfortable with 2 rax and IdrA sees that from against just about every top Korean Terran he plays.
CalmDown.Breathe
Profile Joined June 2010
United States176 Posts
December 20 2010 03:05 GMT
#1192
qxc needs to play standard turtle macro terran with precise aggression.

if initial aggression works -> qxc plays the game strong
if initial aggression fails -> qxc crumbles

when his initial push gets countered, he doesn't revert to standard but more cheese / fanciness... ie cloak banshee / marine drop in game 1 and blue flame hellion in game 2.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
December 20 2010 03:05 GMT
#1193
It's not like there are really any Zerg favoured maps in the pool to begin with. Maps which are seen as good for Zerg like Shakuras and Xel'Naga are generally just the most balanced.

The only blatantly unbalanced maps are the anti-Zerg ones. Zerg advantage on Scrap Station is nothing compared to Terran on Steppes.

A Terran getting free pick of maps would be unfair. A Zerg, not so much.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
December 20 2010 03:06 GMT
#1194
On December 20 2010 12:04 travis wrote:
so it turns out idra is pretty good
who knew?


Yeah...wtf who is this IdrA guy anyway?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
December 20 2010 03:06 GMT
#1195
On December 20 2010 12:06 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 12:04 travis wrote:
so it turns out idra is pretty good
who knew?


Yeah...wtf who is this IdrA guy anyway?

I only know of the Gracken
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Ghostpvp
Profile Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
December 20 2010 03:06 GMT
#1196
On December 20 2010 11:46 Glimred wrote:
Stonewall Grackson!

Lol'd.
E-Highfive!
Move Zig
babolatt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada312 Posts
December 20 2010 03:06 GMT
#1197
On December 20 2010 12:05 Exarl25 wrote:
It's not like there are really any Zerg favoured maps in the pool to begin with. Maps which are seen as good for Zerg like Shakuras and Xel'Naga are generally just the most balanced.

The only blatantly unbalanced maps are the anti-Zerg ones. Zerg advantage on Scrap Station is nothing compared to Terran on Steppes.

A Terran getting free pick of maps would be unfair. A Zerg, not so much.


9/10, would rage again.

Seriously I hope you're trolling.
"Alright, Lets poop out a daily" Day9
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
December 20 2010 03:07 GMT
#1198
It's EGs tournament and Idra is the "final boss"

It isn't suppose to be easy to win the computer, I don't get why everyone thinks everything is suppose to be 100% fair. That isn't the point. This is a bonus, an additional chance at something.

God dammit the "fair fair fair" bs that goes on non stop on this forum just gets old. Their rules, their tournament, and their final boss. You want the damn computer beat idra on his turf for it. Someone will eventually do it and it will be that much more epic.
relyt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1073 Posts
December 20 2010 03:07 GMT
#1199
i remember idra saying the zergs in north america are bad. i wonder if qxc is playing poorly againts idra because he can't practice against any good zergs.
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
December 20 2010 03:07 GMT
#1200
Gracken is protecting his MSI pearl!
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
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