On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote: So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.
Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?
Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).
The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote: So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.
Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?
Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).
The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
On November 16 2010 21:47 MiNDtriX wrote: Can't just FoxeR change his damn ID already? What's the point of having the same ID of a legend when you're getting famous yourself?
Didn't he change it to Optimus? Isn't he now part of Prime? Doesn't he use the ID OptimusPrime?
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote: So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.
Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?
Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).
The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote: So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.
Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?
Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).
The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
On November 16 2010 21:47 MiNDtriX wrote: Can't just FoxeR change his damn ID already? What's the point of having the same ID of a legend when you're getting famous yourself?
Didn't he change it to Optimus? Isn't he now part of Prime? Doesn't he use the ID OptimusPrime?
He hasn't changed ID yet, yes he is part of Prime.
On November 16 2010 21:18 The KY wrote: So does anyone else think that there just aren't enough really good Protoss players in Korea, and it's nothing to do with race balance? You could probably count the 'protoss hope' candidates on one hand, so I don't find it surprising when there are no Toss players in the later rounds.
Um. Your argument is that ALL THOSE players who were protoss who didnt qualify were just.. bad... ?
Well, here's my argument. If they were zerg or terran, do you think they would have made it further?
No, not all, just most. The brackets are pretty random, players like Tester and Nada go out, and guys who don't belong there get through. It's impossible to predict whether if said protoss players were zerg or terran they would have got through, so it's not relevant.
By the way, it wasn't an argument. Just an interested question
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/S-class - Luckily, Tester and Nada are both S class so the 'randomness' is over after GSL 3, and frankly there was no way to pre-seed until these initial GSL tournaments. I personally feel far more sorry for people who have not attained S class and have been knocked out by proven top level players (GSL performances).
The thing is, how do you know they weren't beaten by players of equal or better standard? The fact is, you don't until they compete in the GSL-proper. We do know that SKSS/Nada are class players, but they may have played poorly or been the worse players on the day, rather than been at the bad end of cheese/race balance.
Is Cezanne out or did he change name? Making a list of players who qualified for all three seasons. I might have missed some since some people may have changed names
On November 16 2010 21:44 Raidern wrote: grats team liquid 3/4 is huuuuge! thats really awesome
its a shame huk didn't make it, but he can do it next time hopefully
I don't even think there are any more GSL opens..?
Seems a little bit like HuK's on a fall from grace.
Actually I think the GSLs that will be next year just means he wont be seeded, so hell either have to face seeded players to qualify as well as having to play any new comers who could be ex bw pros etc
You are wrong. You should probably not comment if you have no idea what you are talking about. The outline for next years tournaments has been laid out and the GSL will no longer be an open tournament.
On November 16 2010 21:47 MiNDtriX wrote: Can't just FoxeR change his damn ID already? What's the point of having the same ID of a legend when you're getting famous yourself?
Didn't he change it to Optimus? Isn't he now part of Prime? Doesn't he use the ID OptimusPrime?
He hasn't changed ID yet, yes he is part of Prime.
This.
Giant facepalm if he goes by BoxeRPrime in ro64 ..
EPT
