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Ancient.eu
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania621 Posts
November 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#2821
I have missed the games today because of work. Can someone be so kind as to share his account for an evening so that I can see the games ? Please PM.

User was warned for this post
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#2822
On November 01 2010 22:16 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:14 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Yaotzin wrote:
Terran still dominating GSL despite all their whinging.


Terran has all the name former BW pros, it's more like former BW pros > WC3/otherRTS noobs than anything else

Yawn always some excuse. Tournament results prove conclusively that Terran is very strong, despite them whining up a storm.

Just like how FruitDealer's win proved conclusively that zerg didn't need a buff, or Terran a previous nerf? Not really.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#2823
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.



Actually if you watched the panel, they said that the Terran >> Protoss until the late game was a PROBLEM, and that they wanted to fix it.
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Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
November 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#2824
On November 01 2010 22:17 Sanguinarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


-100 sheild times 30 units?

Yeah 1 ghost can do about 2.5-3k damage with the new clumping.

Actually just like 1.5k - but thats still too much.


Then learn how to spread out your units like Terran have to do against Banelings?
AJ-
Profile Joined April 2010
United States316 Posts
November 01 2010 13:18 GMT
#2825
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


aoe spell man, come on
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2826
On November 01 2010 22:18 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:17 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


-100 sheild times 30 units?

Yeah 1 ghost can do about 2.5-3k damage with the new clumping.

Actually just like 1.5k - but thats still too much.


Then learn how to spread out your units like Terran have to do against Banelings?


because EMPs travel the same speed as banelings?
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2827
On November 01 2010 22:16 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


Yeah but each EMP hit about 10 units.


So its the Terrans fault that the P has one clumped group? On the other site P users always give the hint to SPREAD YOUR UNITS and storms are shit. Sometimes I dont understand the world =/
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Tx-MisfiT
Profile Joined February 2008
United States283 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 13:20:32
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2828
On November 01 2010 22:14 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:10 Shakes wrote:
HopeTorture a second place last season and a top 4 finish this season, surely on the sum of results he deserves to hold the "best SC2 player" right now?


Doing very well in two single elimination tournaments doesn't make you the 'best SC2 player'; perfect example is Select, won both TL Opens and got to the finals of MLG DC but Idra totally stomped him and undoubtedly showed he was the stronger player at the time. Don't think Hopetorture deserved his win here and can't understand people praising his play - he didn't make any gross mistakes but in situations where neither player does, he loses. His BW progaming experience is what helps gets him through IMO, as a player he hasn't done anything outstanding recently.


I would say back to back Ro4 in the GSL is pretty impressive. There are the exceptions, but most players are given the "great" title after winning championships. He has to really win something before being considered the best.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2829
On November 01 2010 22:18 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.



Actually if you watched the panel, they said that the Terran >> Protoss until the late game was a PROBLEM, and that they wanted to fix it.


In that case, I hope they do it soon.
zemiron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States481 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2830
On November 01 2010 22:11 Hanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


You're not excited for Nada/Boxer? Wow


I think their match will be great, but only one of them can go on and I just prefer a greater racial mix no matter who the players are.
"Fractal alligators. Like a normal alligator, but instead of arms, there are more alligators." -Day9
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2831
On November 01 2010 22:18 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.



Actually if you watched the panel, they said that the Terran >> Protoss until the late game was a PROBLEM, and that they wanted to fix it.


They said exactly this. I just dont know how they are going to fix it.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 01 2010 13:19 GMT
#2832
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

.


they did say that thats why they said they will still have more patches in future. each race should have a 50/50 winning rat regardless early/mid/late game.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2833
On November 01 2010 22:18 eggs wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 TimeOut wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 MrCon wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 Jayson X wrote:
is tasteless even casting? He throws one or two lines in and artosis does all the rest...
Maybe it's not his day...

Not only he throws 2 lines, but they're the same 2 lines he uses everyday.


petition to fire tasteless inc?


Day9, DjWheat and Artosis for GSL 2011?


am i the only one that isn't all that into DjWheat?


He's definitely doesn't understand the game enough to cast GSL well, but neither does Tasteless

Day9 is a self-absorbed commentator who operates better alone in his echo chamber with his fans

IMO the best commentator team would be Artosis doing color and analysis paired with a very solid play by play guy, but unfortunately Jason Lee has a much better job at Arirang
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
necmon
Profile Joined September 2010
194 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2834
EMP vs Protoss is quite similar to baneling vs terran. Or storm versus terran. It's not too different and it can be solved by doing the same as terrans have to do versus the spells of the other races (i.e. spread out...).
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2835
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.

No, they said that's how the view the MU at the moment. They specifically said they don't want it to be like that.

On November 01 2010 22:17 Kraznaya wrote:
Nice concession ty

Not sure you know what that word means..
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2836
Just like the marine vs baneling, spreading your units makes ghosts much less cost effective. boxer microed, genius didn't. Nice play by both terrans.
EGM guides me
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2837
On November 01 2010 22:19 AmstAff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 HollowLord wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


Yeah but each EMP hit about 10 units.


So its the Terrans fault that the P has one clumped group? On the other site P users always give the hint to SPREAD YOUR UNITS and storms are shit. Sometimes I dont understand the world =/


nobody says to spread for storm, they say to move out of storm
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2838
On November 01 2010 22:16 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:14 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Yaotzin wrote:
Terran still dominating GSL despite all their whinging.


Terran has all the name former BW pros, it's more like former BW pros > WC3/otherRTS noobs than anything else

Yawn always some excuse. Tournament results prove conclusively that Terran is very strong, despite them whining up a storm.

If most of the Zs weren't lined up in the same bracket, it'd be a much different distribution...also Kyrix/Foxer was extremely close. So it could've been easily 2 Zs and 2 Ts. (7 Zergs and 6Ts in Ro16), so stop reverse-QQing.
the farm ends here
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 13:20:49
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2839
Tasteless today was a "off" but he is a excellent caster stop posting bullshit...
Everyone have bad days. You can do a think right 106161 times but if you fail one than you are the worse. Fish memory...
I Can Fly...
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
November 01 2010 13:20 GMT
#2840
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.


They don't want it to be that way. Dustin Browder specifically addressed that.

If you buff gateway units 4 gate is now unstoppable, if you nerf terran... zerg rolls over them. Protoss is probably gonna be stuck with 2gate robo till HoTS.
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