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Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2861


am i the only one that isn't all that into DjWheat?


I can't speak for everyone else, but I think he's great!
And these games were totally worth staying up for!

Although calling in sick to work today AND tomorrow might be an issue ha ha.
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2862
On November 01 2010 22:22 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:18 Ocedic wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:17 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:16 AmstAff wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Jotoco wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 PulseSUI wrote:
the power of ghosts.. realy scared once terrans start to use them. :/


Ghosts are WAY TOO effective against protoss. This is true. They did what, 3 THOUSAND damage INSTANTLY.

I moarn for protoss. Truelly, an Elder race should have evolved more than lowly and young Terrans.


I didnt saw 30 Ghosts... 1 EMP => -100 shields


-100 sheild times 30 units?

Yeah 1 ghost can do about 2.5-3k damage with the new clumping.

Actually just like 1.5k - but thats still too much.


Then learn how to spread out your units like Terran have to do against Banelings?


baneling/zergling vs marines is melee vs ranged, when you spread out you're still doing most of your dps, especially when you consider the marines attack animation.

spreading out p units in such a way vs a bio ball will cut the p dps incredibly while allowing the ball to focus the units a few at a time.

its not the same situation.


Chargelots do pretty good against EMP tbh
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2863
On November 01 2010 22:20 ZeGzoR wrote:
i trade emp for storm any day as terran.


if half the terran-HP consist of something that can be taken away with one EMP we can definitely talk about that

still, in this game EMP didn't win it for ITR, he won it by cleaning up ALL the colossi an (almost?) ALL the gateway-units with the first push; he did a great job there not letting nexgenius macro a colossus-force that would've pretty much one-shotted all of his bio-army; the ghosts with EMP afterwards was basicly just clean-up
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Keldaur
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain55 Posts
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2864
On November 01 2010 22:16 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:14 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Yaotzin wrote:
Terran still dominating GSL despite all their whinging.


Terran has all the name former BW pros, it's more like former BW pros > WC3/otherRTS noobs than anything else

Yawn always some excuse. Tournament results proof conclusively that Terran is very strong, despite them whining up a storm.


Can't believe people who watchs some amazing series, from incredible players who are miles ahead them whining like little childs.

Enjoy the matchs. If you only learned about this series that terran is OP, then you got a problem man.
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2865

On November 01 2010 22:14 Jehct wrote:
Doing very well in two single elimination tournaments doesn't make you the 'best SC2 player'; perfect example is Select, won both TL Opens and got to the finals of MLG DC but Idra totally stomped him and undoubtedly showed he was the stronger player at the time. Don't think Hopetorture deserved his win here and can't understand people praising his play - he didn't make any gross mistakes but in situations where neither player does, he loses. His BW progaming experience is what helps gets him through IMO, as a player he hasn't done anything outstanding recently.




Are you seriously comparing TL opens with GSL? Jesus....

And yeah, you cant say he is best, bust by results, he is now most consistant player in GSL.
Will be really interesting to see him vs new hot shot Foxer, they have diferent styles, wondering which one will prevail. Both have alot of reasons to win, beside great money on line, ITR for back to back finals, and Foxer for continuing his great run, of beating awesome players this GSL.
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
shynee
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada180 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 13:25:16
November 01 2010 13:23 GMT
#2866



Actually if you watched the panel, they said that the Terran >> Protoss until the late game was a PROBLEM, and that they wanted to fix it.


Not exactly. The late game is still a problem because then, Protoss >> Terran. So..

Early game - T > P
Mid game - T = P
Late game - P > T
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#2867
On November 01 2010 22:21 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.

No, they said that's how the view the MU at the moment. They specifically said they don't want it to be like that.

On November 01 2010 22:17 Kraznaya wrote:
Nice concession ty

Not sure you know what that word means..


You avoided my point completely, and therefore conceded it



Your point is terrible. Tester? Sangho? Former BW pros, losing to Terrans.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#2868
On November 01 2010 22:22 zemiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:12 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:10 zemiron wrote:
Wow, it's looking like a pretty boring semifinals. Three Terrans and a Zerg. Ugh... I'll watch, but I'm not really that excited.


if you're not excited about Boxer or Nada, you're not excited about Starcraft


Or I have a different opinion than everyone else. I didn't come to Starcraft 2 from Brood War, so Boxer and Nada don't mean much to me. I prefer mixed matchups instead of mirror matchups regardless of who is playing. And please don't flame me because I'm a "noob" fan or whatever.

If non-mirror matchups is all it takes for you to get excited about a game then I have good news for you, there are plenty of gold and above tourneys that should be right up your alley.
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Deadlift
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States358 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#2869
Note: I play random so I'm not biased but...

To everyone whining about EMP and making absurd assumptions about how much damage it does, you realize zealots, stalkers and sentries don't even have 100 shields to begin with right?
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
November 01 2010 13:24 GMT
#2870
On November 01 2010 22:20 necmon wrote:
EMP vs Protoss is quite similar to baneling vs terran. Or storm versus terran. It's not too different and it can be solved by doing the same as terrans have to do versus the spells of the other races (i.e. spread out...).


Quite different since the entire damage is upfront and can be cast at 10 range. Storm takes 4 seconds to do all its damage
LeaD
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 13:25:36
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2871
What was this thing about Hope-torture not going over to sake Genius's hand when he was asked to do it? Was this reported or is someone just making that up?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2872
On November 01 2010 22:23 Keldaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:14 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:13 Yaotzin wrote:
Terran still dominating GSL despite all their whinging.


Terran has all the name former BW pros, it's more like former BW pros > WC3/otherRTS noobs than anything else

Yawn always some excuse. Tournament results proof conclusively that Terran is very strong, despite them whining up a storm.


Can't believe people who watchs some amazing series, from incredible players who are miles ahead them whining like little childs.

I enjoyed the first series greatly.

Enjoy the matchs. If you only learned about this series that terran is OP, then you got a problem man.

I learned it long ago, I'm just tired of Terran players starting this asinine idea that they're now UP. They're all doing it, and they're all full of shit.
Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2873
On November 01 2010 22:20 necmon wrote:
EMP vs Protoss is quite similar to baneling vs terran. Or storm versus terran. It's not too different and it can be solved by doing the same as terrans have to do versus the spells of the other races (i.e. spread out...).


Except in both cases, microing can happen after the banelings roll on screen or after the storm hits. You don't see many Terrans spreading beforehand to avoid storms, and considering the T1 units accompanying ghosts are all ranged, it makes spreading your army beforehand incredibly ineffective.
/)*(\
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 13:28:10
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2874
On November 01 2010 22:22 Gudeldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:20 ZeGzoR wrote:
i trade emp for storm any day as terran.


LOL you're crazy. Storm does 80 damage (if you sit still inside it like a moron), EMP does 100 damage instantly.


Templar are cheaper, and can be summoned instantly anywhere with a Pylon or Warp Prism.

Also, Storms can kill while EMP cannot.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2875
On November 01 2010 22:21 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:16 Gaxton wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:16 TimeOut wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 MrCon wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 Jayson X wrote:
is tasteless even casting? He throws one or two lines in and artosis does all the rest...
Maybe it's not his day...

Not only he throws 2 lines, but they're the same 2 lines he uses everyday.


petition to fire tasteless inc?


Day9, DjWheat and Artosis for GSL 2011?


What about Jason Lee?

Do you like when a protoss slips his canon in your backside, YES OR NO ?




DjWheat Artosis would be awesome
#1 Terran hater
QkDown
Profile Joined February 2010
United States214 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2876
On November 01 2010 22:22 Gudeldar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:20 ZeGzoR wrote:
i trade emp for storm any day as terran.


LOL you're crazy. Storm does 80 damage (if you sit still inside it like a moron), EMP does 100 damage instantly.

not to mention ghost is t2 and templar is t3 (and cant invis)
NINJA DOWN NINJA DOWN
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2877
On November 01 2010 22:24 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:21 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:20 Yaotzin wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:17 Crissaegrim wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:12 Sanguinarius wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 abrasion wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:07 Sanguinarius wrote:
Sigh, another GSL with no protoss - I hope blizzard realizes that Protoss really isnt doing well. Esp in TvP


According to Blizzcon, P is OP over T - prepare for incoming nerf to Psi Storm (not joking btw)


According to the blizzcon pannel, Terran >> Protoss until the late game.

both game 2 and 3 were decided in the early game - when toss is at a disadvantage.

Game 4 was mid-late game, but no HTs were out yet - another 2-3 mins would have been late game.


I dont understand why blizz wants to maintain a T>>P early game and P>T late game stance.

Why dont they make it so that either race has a chance to take it early game or late game. Wouldnt that lead to more exciting games between back and forth advances, rather than terran racing to finish toss off as soon as possible?

Still moaning the lack of protoss in the GSL.

No, they said that's how the view the MU at the moment. They specifically said they don't want it to be like that.

On November 01 2010 22:17 Kraznaya wrote:
Nice concession ty

Not sure you know what that word means..


You avoided my point completely, and therefore conceded it



Your point is terrible. Tester? Sangho? Former BW pros, losing to Terrans.


B-Teamer and Estro A-teamer (equivalent of a B-team on another team lol) never nearly as prominent as ITR, Boxer, or Nada

learn some history
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
November 01 2010 13:25 GMT
#2878
On November 01 2010 22:24 Kishime wrote:
Note: I play random so I'm not biased but...

To everyone whining about EMP and making absurd assumptions about how much damage it does, you realize zealots, stalkers and sentries don't even have 100 shields to begin with right?


Basically everyone but random players or top players should be barred from talking about balance.
hdkhang
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia183 Posts
November 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#2879
On November 01 2010 22:20 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:18 eggs wrote:

On November 01 2010 22:16 TimeOut wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 Kraznaya wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:15 MrCon wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:08 Jayson X wrote:
is tasteless even casting? He throws one or two lines in and artosis does all the rest...
Maybe it's not his day...

Not only he throws 2 lines, but they're the same 2 lines he uses everyday.


petition to fire tasteless inc?


Day9, DjWheat and Artosis for GSL 2011?


am i the only one that isn't all that into DjWheat?


He's definitely doesn't understand the game enough to cast GSL well, but neither does Tasteless

Day9 is a self-absorbed commentator who operates better alone in his echo chamber with his fans

IMO the best commentator team would be Artosis doing color and analysis paired with a very solid play by play guy, but unfortunately Jason Lee has a much better job at Arirang


Have to agree with you on that one. If however Artosis needs Tasteless to be there to be at 100%, then it might be detrimental to pair him up with someone else. Hopefully this isn't the case... or hopefully Tasteless picks up his game a bit.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
November 01 2010 13:26 GMT
#2880
On November 01 2010 22:25 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:22 Gudeldar wrote:
On November 01 2010 22:20 ZeGzoR wrote:
i trade emp for storm any day as terran.


LOL you're crazy. Storm does 80 damage (if you sit still inside it like a moron), EMP does 100 damage instantly.


Templar are cheaper, and can be summoned instantly anywhere with a Pylon or Warp Prism.


Oh please.

I'm not whining about TvP, but silly comments like this..
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