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On October 28 2010 22:00 Doko wrote:
I don't know jack about ZvZ but if...
roach > baneling/roach
roach > ling
roach > baneling
why go anything but roach at all? do you die to very early banelings or something?
Well. On non fastexpandable maps speeling bane into muta can be a viable strategy for mapcontrol. However thats pretty much it, we're back to the hour long super boring zvzs we've had during the beta.
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nah they interviewed TLO twice and Torch. Artosis kinda got an interview because he had to come back to commentate. Only Idra got the exemption i think.
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On October 28 2010 21:55 oZii wrote:
how to beat idrA be unpredictable thats been the case time and time again. I like idrA alot but anytime someone switches it up on him it gets him everytime.
It really does, hidden expansions, proxy stargates, surprise banelings. For those that dont know people also said it about him in BW rofl. But Im sad to see him go and he is very good, I guess nobody was really prepared for how many zergs would make it through and how many ZvZs there would be.
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On October 28 2010 22:01 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 21:58 Weavel wrote:
Better player won. It's sad, but true. Better player? No Better ZvZ'er? Yes He deserved his win obviously but I'm confident IdrA's ZvT and ZvP is stronger than Zenio's.
Idra beat terran scrubs to get here
Zenio beat MVP
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On October 28 2010 22:01 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
It was painfully obvious IdrA was a complete fish out of water in ZvZ.
Zenio won with typical crazy Koreans practicing any match up like mad.
ZvZ is a roll of dice? Are you saying IdrA got swept because of bad luck? Get real.
ZvZ is not a roll of dice, Idra got destroyed both games because first game he misplayed, second game he went a horrible strategy that has not seen use in some time cause its so easily destroyed.
Artosis strategy was very solid, I am actually going to use it for my DQ games from now on because its so hard to secure that front expansion if you play against a retarded zerg that likes to go Ling Muta.
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On October 28 2010 22:02 Gaxton wrote:Only interviews the winner. Always been that way.
TLO was interviewed too everytime he lost...
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I'm sure Artosis will interview IdrA later.
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On October 28 2010 22:01 Valikyr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 21:58 Weavel wrote:
Better player won. It's sad, but true. Better player? No Better ZvZ'er? Yes He deserved his win obviously but I'm confident IdrA's ZvT and ZvP is stronger than Zenio's.
Im sure any non koaren player in the GSL is better than the koreans by the sounds of this thread..
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On October 28 2010 22:01 AJ- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:00 vrok wrote:On October 28 2010 21:56 kindle139 wrote:
idra should maybe join a serious sc2 team? Yeah, this. Idra needs a real team. Not a scrubby NA team with no presence in SK. you guys do know eg is going to sk
No offense to the EG guys currently in NA, but they just wont cut it. Machine is nowhere near the level of people like zenio and FD. I am pretty sure he has even admitted it.
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nice just got wrong where i said ensare would win
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On October 28 2010 21:58 Beyonder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 21:57 Deadlyfish wrote:
ZvZ is such a joke. So much luck involved.
Anyways, the better player won, so i'm happy :D These games were not luck at all though. Simply outplayed.
I agree he was outplayed, i'm just saying that you sort of have to guess what you're opponent is doing, and if you guess wrong, you die. In all the other matchups, you can still win even though you're being countered.
ZvZ is 3 units, like rock paper scissor, as so many people have already pointed out.
rock = roach
scissor = baneling
paper = zergling
In the first few mins of the game you have to make a few guesses, as i said. Obviously there is luck in all the matchups, but this one has wayyy more luck involved than the others 
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On October 28 2010 22:03 Integra wrote:
is it just me or does the transalator act really nervous when is doing the interviews?
He doesnt act, he really is nervous, he doesnt get paid to do the translations, he probably isnt used to being on camera "in front" of thousands of people.
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On October 28 2010 22:02 Gaxton wrote:Only interviews the winner. Always been that way.
Nope, interviewed TLO after his loss in season 1.
They usually interview foreigners win or lose.
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On October 28 2010 22:01 Flummie wrote:
Idra got outplayed.. just quit whining fanboys cuz there is a huge gap between USA/EU and koreans (and arguably SEA). Zenio was the better player by far!
I'd say the non-korean fanboys of everything korean are far more annoying than any other kind of fanboy.
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On October 28 2010 21:59 kindle139 wrote:
it was bm from zenio, what else do you call raising the pimp hand?
but i think idra can handle it.
oh yeah, and idra, when you talk about getting to the finals and you know, don't make it, you look like kind of an ass. :\
He said he was capable of getting to the finals. Look like an ass? Plenty of professional athletes say that their teams are capable of getting to championships. Half the NFL says it every week.
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Why not just build 1 spore at each mineral line in game 1?
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On October 28 2010 22:01 AJ- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2010 22:00 vrok wrote:On October 28 2010 21:56 kindle139 wrote:
idra should maybe join a serious sc2 team? Yeah, this. Idra needs a real team. Not a scrubby NA team with no presence in SK. you guys do know eg is going to sk
Even if they are, they stand absolutely no chance. At all. Besides Idra they don't have a single player capable of going anywhere. They can't even get anywhere in the NA tournaments.
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idrA was gracked 
His zvz really seemed miles below his other match-ups.
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First game wasn't a BO loss, IdrA made a lot of mistakes
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Last interview Idra said that his half of the bracket was doable and that he expects to meet Fruitdealer in the final. Now both are out.
Anyone know who will be HopeTorture's next opponent?
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