Maka wasn't at the top of his game during blizzcon. IIRC he was down with a high fever (or just barely recovered) at the time of blizzcon and I don't think what I saw at blizzcon was his full potential.

Welmu

Finland3295 Posts

October 25 2010 15:47 GMT

#2303

On October 26 2010 00:28 Jakalo wrote:
Oh good, he was joking cant you see?

Going in noble footsteps of Guemchi - bonjwa graphs.

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That was epic day :D

preacha

Norway210 Posts

October 25 2010 15:55 GMT

#2304

god damn, idra is good!

Beef Noodles

United States937 Posts

October 25 2010 16:45 GMT

#2305

On October 25 2010 22:02 joonp wrote:

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On October 25 2010 21:57 shynee wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:53 joonp wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:50 raidmaster wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:47 KingRajesh wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:44 Fallen.Sc wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:32 kataa wrote:

On October 25 2010 21:28 Telcontar wrote:
You can't play a macro game vs zerg without constant aggression and pinning him back. Gon needs to work on that.

How many times did he try and harass with hellions only go get pwned on all sides? How many times did he try and drop only to have it spotted and shut down before it even began? Everytime we see a good Zerg player win, we get so many Terrans saying "You need to be more aggressive." but the thing that makes a good zerg player is there ability to shut down harass.

Yeah , it's not really a balance topic but blizzard really need to look at zerg macro mechanics , or make some change so terran can keep up in a macro game. Because 1 rax fast expand dont work zerg will get ahead by like 15 drones.
And Harass don't seem that good if the zerg is not playing greedy and make 2 Spine crawler at natural with 4 roaches to kill helions and 3 queens to prevent banshee harass and spread creep faster. Even drops gets shut down by Muta / infestor creep spread and overlord placement helps a lot.

Terran needs to do something NEW. The same tired strategies aren't going to work.

QXC's Raven play was good enough to take a game off Idra.

Put it like this: Terran right now is in Zerg's position with the Mutalisk before discovering the Magic Box. Every Terran was like "LOL THORS ARE SUPPOSED TO HARD COUNTER MUTAS, L2P"...

Well, Terrans... It's your turn to L2P. Go back to the drawing board.

I partly agree with you but c'mon. Magix box is not a strategy nor anything that zerg discovered using the "drawing board". I would call it a bug. I think that with increased roach range magic box should be fixed. TvZ would be at least balanced somehow.

Terran players come out to whine once they get nerfed slightly. Nothing needs to be fixed, take your crying else where.

I bet if someone like Boxer said something needs to be fixed, you'd be all over that. Btw, he did say something along those lines.

No I wouldn't, and I don't care. Cry more now that ZvT is a more even match up?

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No where should you read my post as whine. I am merely expressing my opinion on how to view the GSL games in regards to balance and player quality.

It is very difficult to discuss balance based on performance in GSL. There are many other factors besides balance that determine the outcome of a game. IdrA and Fruitdealer have just flat out played more SC2 than either Boxer or Nada. At this early stage, I expect them to beat those old SC1 pros.

That being said, Boxer and Nada are clearly AMAZING at RTS. If in a few months (if they are training hard), they still cannot take games or win series against top zergs, then there is most likely a balance issue.

As the guy who makes all the Zerg "comprehensive looks." I will tell you I am VERY BIASED in favor of zerg. But, I want the game to be balanced more than anything. If top Terrans start to complain and talk about their limited options like the top zergs were, then I think the match up needs tweeking. (BTW: I mean TOP terrans. Not some recognizable "names" who have a fan-base but would get annihilated at GSL.)

If Boxer is complaining in a few more weeks, even as a biased zerg player, I would say the match up favors zerg and needs to be fixed.

OpticalShot

Canada6330 Posts

October 25 2010 16:53 GMT

#2306

Both Nada and IdrA moving on to the next round? Awesome!!

0neder

United States3733 Posts

October 25 2010 16:59 GMT

#2307

Idra v Nada Ro16? Oh snap!

gray-fox

Finland62 Posts

October 25 2010 17:10 GMT

#2308

Are interviews uploaded by gomtv? I was looking for the nada interview after the game...

I have season ticket btw

Hawker

United States35 Posts

October 25 2010 17:20 GMT

#2309

On October 26 2010 02:10 gray-fox wrote:
Are interviews uploaded by gomtv? I was looking for the nada interview after the game...

I have season ticket btw

The way to get to the interviews is to click league, click season 2, click GomCam.

roosten

125 Posts

October 25 2010 17:24 GMT

#2310

On October 26 2010 01:59 0neder wrote:
Idra v Nada Ro16? Oh snap!

Nada and IdrA can't meet until the semi finals.

gray-fox

Finland62 Posts

October 25 2010 17:25 GMT

#2311

On October 26 2010 02:20 Hawker wrote:

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The way to get to the interviews is to click league, click season 2, click GomCam.

Thank you sir, you are the best,.

monx

Canada1400 Posts

October 25 2010 17:33 GMT

#2312

damn 3 more Z for Ro16. I think Z will win this GSL again.

joonp

United States105 Posts

October 25 2010 17:33 GMT

#2313

I think Nada is indisputably a top terran right now. He is one of the very few Terrans whose macro is already extremely good with beautiful timing on almost everything and good micro.

I think a large reason why some people and terrans think that ZvT is imbalanced is because Terrans don't learn how to macro like most good Zergs have to in order to beat other races. In any match up the person who is out macroing their opponent is going to win, period. It's just that Zergs do it constantly. I highly anticipate Nada versus IdrA or Cool to see how their macro wars stack up.

Polygamy

Austria1114 Posts

October 25 2010 17:34 GMT

#2314

Wow all 2-0

Jacobs Ladder

United States1705 Posts

October 25 2010 17:35 GMT

#2315

On October 26 2010 02:33 joonp wrote:
I think Nada is indisputably a top terran right now. He is one of the very few Terrans whose macro is already extremely good with beautiful timing on almost everything and good micro.

I think a large reason why some people and terrans think that ZvT is imbalanced is because Terrans don't learn how to macro like most good Zergs have to in order to beat other races. In any match up the person who is out macroing their opponent is going to win, period. It's just that Zergs do it constantly. I highly anticipate Nada versus IdrA or Cool to see how their macro wars stack up.

I don't know. Both Rainbow and TheSTC are on a similar level. I'm really sad STC isn't able to compete in the GSL, since he is just BETTER than so many people.

s1eger

United States126 Posts

October 25 2010 17:35 GMT

#2316

i really want to see a long match for IdrA, almost everymatch he played was easy win. he is reallly good. and i want to see fruitdealer vs idra. i hate zvz but i am sure that it will be really awesome game

IPA

United States3206 Posts

October 25 2010 17:39 GMT

#2317

Why can't STC compete in GSL?

zzaaxxsscd

United States626 Posts

October 25 2010 17:41 GMT

#2318

On October 26 2010 02:39 IPA wrote:
Why can't STC compete in GSL?

military service apparently
I'm sure he could qualify, and probably go far...one of the best terrans in KR

andrewlt

United States7702 Posts

October 25 2010 17:41 GMT

#2319

I think Grack has a very favorable bracket. It's actually very possible that he might only play ZvT all the way to the finals. Only practicing one match-up is much easier than having to practice all three.

joonp

United States105 Posts

October 25 2010 17:41 GMT

#2320

On October 26 2010 02:39 IPA wrote:
Why can't STC compete in GSL?

I think he's serving in the korean army.