EPTIs it group A winner plays group B winner?
[GSL] Ro32 Day 2 - Page 118
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DotADeMoN
United States517 Posts
Is it group A winner plays group B winner? | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On October 26 2010 02:10 gray-fox wrote: Are interviews uploaded by gomtv? I was looking for the nada interview after the game... I have season ticket btw interviews can always be found here | ||
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forr4078
Korea (South)12 Posts
On October 26 2010 02:47 w_Ender_w wrote: I wonder what the Korean commentators say about IdrA during his matches? What the prevailing opinion of him is in Korea? Korean commentators only say the good things so what they say isn't much of a reference. He doesn't interact at all with the Korean fanbase, and doesn't participate in Gisado's win-streak matches, so most Koreans don't have any opinions beyond on what he has shown in GSL. His skill is widely recognized. He's vaguely known to be a hostile Zerg whiner. Being the only foreigner left in GSL2, many root for him. Most comments in the chatroom is about his hair loss, how old he looks compared to his age, and how his name is "Grack". | ||
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marcusklaas
Netherlands81 Posts
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Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:50 forr4078 wrote: Korean commentators only say the good things so what they say isn't much of a reference. He doesn't interact at all with the Korean fanbase, and doesn't participate in Gisado's win-streak matches, so most Koreans don't have any opinions beyond on what he has shown in GSL. His skill is widely recognized. He's vaguely known to be a hostile Zerg whiner. Being the only foreigner left in GSL2, many root for him. Most comments in the chatroom is about his hair loss, how old he looks compared to his age, and how his name is "Grack". Haha, thats hilarious. Thanks for posting  | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:51 marcusklaas wrote: Why didn't Artosis ask him about the JASON LEE incident where he called GRACK a VILLAIN!? Because you are misconstruing what jason lee actually said since he never even implied that idra was a villain. He was merely talking about how it's always good for competitive scenes to have that bad guy that the crowd can unite and hate on. Some might jump to conclude that idra could fill such a role, but jason lee said nothing to imply that he was thinking of idra at all, it was more a straight conversation about the concept of it. | ||
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Venus!
United States30 Posts
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:55 Venus! wrote: idrA showing what foreigners can do. Idra has played well but to be fair he hasn't been pitted against a really top notch player in GSL yet. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:55 Venus! wrote: idrA showing what foreigners can do. Well he's been training in Korea for 2+ years, so I wouldn't consider him just any foreigner. | ||
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Keldaur
Spain55 Posts
On October 26 2010 02:33 joonp wrote: I think Nada is indisputably a top terran right now. He is one of the very few Terrans whose macro is already extremely good with beautiful timing on almost everything and good micro. I think a large reason why some people and terrans think that ZvT is imbalanced is because Terrans don't learn how to macro like most good Zergs have to in order to beat other races. In any match up the person who is out macroing their opponent is going to win, period. It's just that Zergs do it constantly. I highly anticipate Nada versus IdrA or Cool to see how their macro wars stack up. I don't want to burst it for you, but you can't just compete on a macro game against zerg, except if you outplay him by a lot. That's how it's intended to be, not whining about it, but you are just wrong about what people is speaking about (even if they are, or are not right). They are talking about how zergs can go macro mode way easier than before and terran players can't hurt them for that in a reliable way.. I am not gonna say tvz is imbalanced yet, time will tell better than some random post right now. But i believe some zerg players should do the same before saying "it's balanced now". | ||
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:17 Keldaur wrote: I don't want to burst it for you, but you can't just compete on a macro game against zerg, except if you outplay him by a lot. That's how it's intended to be, not whining about it, but you are just wrong about what people is speaking about (even if they are, or are not right). They are talking about how zergs can go macro mode way easier than before and terran players can't hurt them for that in a reliable way.. I am not gonna say tvz is imbalanced yet, time will tell better than some random post right now. But i believe some zerg players should do the same before saying "it's balanced now". I personally think nada is a good terran, but I think it's too early to consider him a top terran, he needs to be matched up vs other top players first before we should conclude that. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
It's sheer mathematics why Z is unbeatable once you reach a certain time limit in the game (around the 9 minute mark nowadays). Larva inject increases economy exponentially...mules/chronoboost not so much. It's very highlighted in ZvT though, which is why it's impossible for T to win once the game goes past around the 9 minute mark (in beta it was worse - Z was unbeatable if they survived past the 7 minute mark into late game). A Zerg is going to win this GSL 100%. | ||
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Keldaur
Spain55 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:19 robertdinh wrote: I personally think nada is a good terran, but I think it's too early to consider him a top terran, he needs to be matched up vs other top players first before we should conclude that. I wasn't speaking about that, maybe my quote wasn't the best. I agree with you, i believe he needs more time to really adapt to sc2 (not saying he sucks, just he still has a lot more room to improve). So yeah, just give some time to the matchup to see how it evolves, and then we will see. I don't understand this rants about balance when it's too soon yet to judge (neither i understand zergs trolling about l2p, when it's true, you don't know neither if it's really balanced or you are just doing the same a lot of terrans were doing on 1.0... trolling zergs  )I play terran btw. | ||
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fantomex
United States313 Posts
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robertdinh
803 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:22 avilo wrote: I hope people realize that Z>T is not by anything magical that players are or aren't doing. It's sheer mathematics why Z is unbeatable once you reach a certain time limit in the game (around the 9 minute mark nowadays). Larva inject increases economy exponentially...mules/chronoboost not so much. It's very highlighted in ZvT though, which is why it's impossible for T to win once the game goes past around the 9 minute mark (in beta it was worse - Z was unbeatable if they survived past the 7 minute mark into late game). A Zerg is going to win this GSL 100%. Luckily fruitdealer didn't adopt this sort of attitude in GSL 1 and go in thinking that T is simply unbeatable for zerg. Also luckily skill is a factor in sc2. On October 26 2010 04:24 fantomex wrote: Player quality still seems really low. GSL would be better off as a 32 player double elimination tournament. I was in disbelief at how sanzenith played, even without ever testing out his build post patch (if that were the case at all) he should know the game well enough to intuitively understand what +1 range to roach would do to a fast expand that wasn't built properly. He seemed out of it in general though, he blocked his nexus with a cannon... He didn't pull probes to block ramp. His building locations were easily exploitable by roaches... There were some other pretty weak players in the ro32 as well but yea I agree the player quality still seemed sorta low. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:22 avilo wrote: Larva inject increases economy exponentially...mules/chronoboost not so much. It's very highlighted in ZvT though, which is why it's impossible for T to win once the game goes past around the 9 minute mark (in beta it was worse - Z was unbeatable if they survived past the 7 minute mark into late game). By that logic ZvP should be impossible past the 10 min mark as well. Obviously this is hardly the case. P's just never had the comfort of being able to harass and kill half of the Z's drones like T's did before with reapers, hellions, banshees so they had to learn how to perform proper timing attacks to force production/slow them down while expanding to take the lead. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:22 avilo wrote: I hope people realize that Z>T is not by anything magical that players are or aren't doing. It's sheer mathematics why Z is unbeatable once you reach a certain time limit in the game (around the 9 minute mark nowadays). Larva inject increases economy exponentially...mules/chronoboost not so much. It's very highlighted in ZvT though, which is why it's impossible for T to win once the game goes past around the 9 minute mark (in beta it was worse - Z was unbeatable if they survived past the 7 minute mark into late game). A Zerg is going to win this GSL 100%. There's a reason why your nobody considers you a top player. Your a huge hypocrite. Remember when terrans were getting pretty much free wins in tvz? You said "zergs just need to learn to play". But now that the match up is balanced you complain "zerg imba" but really its because you DON'T know how to play a macro game. Also if Zerg was sooo imba how come Loner destroyed Sen? Eh? Loner played tvz correctly he got his third fast while being aggressive with his army. Sorry you can't stay on 2 base vs 4 base and win very sorry I guess that is "imba" not. Learn to play your race more and stop crying its all you do when you post. I recommend watching QXC tvz and Loner's maybe you'll learn something :D On another note glad to see Idra make it to the RO16 was worried he might not make it like last time but he did. Really curious to see how far he will make it if he won that would be awesome but we'll see. RO16 should have some very good games ^^ | ||
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On October 26 2010 03:50 forr4078 wrote: Korean commentators only say the good things so what they say isn't much of a reference. He doesn't interact at all with the Korean fanbase, and doesn't participate in Gisado's win-streak matches, so most Koreans don't have any opinions beyond on what he has shown in GSL. His skill is widely recognized. He's vaguely known to be a hostile Zerg whiner. Being the only foreigner left in GSL2, many root for him. Most comments in the chatroom is about his hair loss, how old he looks compared to his age, and how his name is "Grack". Thanks for the explanation :D I think the Grack thing catching on everywhere is hilarious. | ||
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DamnCats
United States1472 Posts
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MLG_Wiggin
United States767 Posts
On October 26 2010 04:35 blade55555 wrote: There's a reason why your nobody considers you a top player. Your a huge hypocrite. Remember when terrans were getting pretty much free wins in tvz? You said "zergs just need to learn to play". But now that the match up is balanced you complain "zerg imba" but really its because you DON'T know how to play a macro game. Also if Zerg was sooo imba how come Loner destroyed Sen? Eh? Loner played tvz correctly he got his third fast while being aggressive with his army. Sorry you can't stay on 2 base vs 4 base and win very sorry I guess that is "imba" not. Learn to play your race more and stop crying its all you do when you post. I recommend watching QXC tvz and Loner's maybe you'll learn something :D On another note glad to see Idra make it to the RO16 was worried he might not make it like last time but he did. Really curious to see how far he will make it if he won that would be awesome but we'll see. RO16 should have some very good games ^^ Grudge match! Bo5! Settle it with fisticuffs! | ||
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